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ORIGINAL: bounty44

here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion."

the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?"

both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news.

what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams.

but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking.

and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind.

so does this...

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No, you stated

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here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion."

Your wet dreams are dry

Isn't there a cream for that?

let it rot....

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

No, you stated

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here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion."

Your wet dreams are dry

Isn't there a cream for that?

let it rot....

Wet Dream dryness is a serious and CHRONIC problem for Trump sycophants.

I am shocked and apalled by your callous attitude..

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

Myself, I just wonder how you can tel that somebody's a right winger from the way they suck your balls: a "nut job" is some sort of cutesy term for teabagging, right?

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

We think it's about time but be patient now.

After all of the months of previous investigating and with the firing of the spec. pros. (Archibald Cox)...after all of that,
it still took 8 mos. for articles of impeachment were passed charging Nixon.

July 72 break-in, and over 2 years altogether Aug. 74 POTUS resignation.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion."

the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?"

both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news.

what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams.

but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking.

and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind.

so does this...

Yes, we all see...sounds like a RWNJ. Liberals are traitors.

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

here's your first one fool---that manafort's activities with Ukraine, or Russia or whoever prior to being associated with the trump campaign, so far as anyone can tell at the moment, have nothing to do with the whole leftist charge of trump's "Russian collusion."

the whole "trump jr meeting with a Russian lawyer" is a very big "so what?"

both of those things have been said repeatedly, well before your breathless "charges filed" news.

what that means is, anything damning exists only so far in your wet dreams.

but then of course, any refutation, no matter how sound, is a "denial or downplay" right? interesting that you get to be the sole arbiter of truth here no matter how absurd your thinking.

and as to this: "rwnj"---right, everyone who disagrees with or thinks differently than you is a "nutjob"---the word juvenile comes to mind.

so does this...

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Leftist media howlers are all using the same “Trump Russia collaboration” talking points, though tere is far more evidence pointing to team Hillary and their work with Manafort being indicted

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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

Why does the fact that all of these Hillary-related controversies appear as a direct response by RWNJ news to the Trump controversies never seem to set off any alarm bells?

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My guesses:

Manafort
and
YES

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Leftist media howlers are all using the same “Trump Russia collaboration” talking points, though tere is far more evidence pointing to team Hillary and their work with Manafort being indicted

Why do you keep repeating that same lie over and over?

I will speculate that Hillary engaged in pay-for-play with many Foundation donors, and direct donors (i.e. Speech customers)... NONE of that has anything to do with the 2016 election.

However, there is certainly not FAR more evidence of anything.

We know:

Manafort was on the payroll of the Party of Regions - An anti-American / Pro Russian group in Ukraine whose members attacked a bus full of American troops.
Manafort was made Campaign chairman of the Trump campaign while this was well-known.
Trump, after the primaries, changed the Republican platform to soften language on Ukraine.

And NOW: http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/25/politics/trump-russia-sanctions/index.html

He is delaying enforcing the very sanctions that he signed and Congress voted on - DIRECTLY related to Ukraine. (recalling bounty's inane comment that Manafort's past relationship with Ukraine has NOTHING to do with the investigation)


Trump correctly predicted the release of emails on 3 separate occasions from WikiLeaks
WikiLeaks was the outlet for Russian hackers.

The Russians created fake news stories and bots to promote them which were also promoted by Michael Flynn (including Pizzagate), who BTW received speaking fees from RT.
Michael Flynn was made "National Security Advisor" by the Trump Administration.

The fake news stories were VERY targeted and had many very regional references. Dozens of experts agree that they had to been guided by American help.

Roger Stone was seen at Julian Assange's house

The Attorney General, Jeff Sessions lied repeatedly about his Russian connections.

Carter Page, the person identified as an intermediary with the Russians in the Steele dossier has repeatedly lied about his Russian connections.
Russians were intercepted talking to each other SPECIFICALLY about Carter Page as an intermediary (and a stooge).
Carter Page was named as Foreign Policy Advisor by Trump.

Compared to...

The Hillary campaign, the DNC, and a Fusion GPS attorney paid for perfectly legal Oppo research and lied about it.
The Podestas were working with Manafort and a Pro Russian Ukranian group to influence US Policy while Hillary was Sos. Geez... get in line!


FAR more evidence? Not even close.

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.


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The timing and nature of the payments to Perkins Coie by Obama’s official campaign arm raise significant questions about whether OFA was funding Fusion GPS, how much Obama and his team knew about the contents and provenance of the dossier long before its contents were made public, and whether the president or his government lieutenants knowingly used a partisan political document to justify official government actions targeting the president’s political opponents named in the dossier. According to the Washington Post, Fusion GPS was first retained by Perkins Coie on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in April of 2016.