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So much desperation... I love it.

As always...

Conservatives post about facts and back up their assertions with news articles that are literally packed with useful and timely, relevant information while the howler class howls whatever meaningless buzzwords are echoing around in their empty heads

(Situation normal for this forum)

This is a thread about the upcoming charges in the Trump campaign/Russia collusion and Trump obstruction of justice case.
Why does Hillary's Uranium One deal have any bearing on that?
WHO GIVES A SHIT WHO FUNDED THE DOSSIER???
Did FusionGPS hack into the GOP database? Steal emails? Tamper with voting machines? Spread fake news? Influence the election? Are they a foreign government? Are they hostile to the US?

The only way they are connected to this topic is because the GOP is using that to distract you from what is going on with them, and because YOU are also blatantly, pathetically desperate to avoid honestly addressing the topic.

HILLARY ISN'T THE PRESIDENT.
SHE DIDN'T WIN.

Even if she was murdering babies, it would have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on the topic of this thread.

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I'm curious as to how information can be considered a contribution. That seems unconstitutional by way of violating freedom of speech & association.

And both campaigns may very well come under fire for that same thing, so this isn't a leftist question.

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Specifically, the complaint contends that, last year, Ukrainian-American operative and DNC consultant, Alexandra Chalupa met with Ukrainian government officials to get information in an effort to expose ties between Trump, his former campaign manager Paul Manafort and Russia. As reported, a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy was instructed to help Chalupa conduct research on connections between Trump, Manafort and Russia. The DNC subsequently acknowledged that it had knowledge of the research.

First, according to federal law, an in-kind contribution consists of “anything of value, including information and leads, the fruits of paid research, or similar investigatory activity, to a political committee.” Second, federal law also prohibits accepting or receiving anything of value from foreign nationals and the Ukrainian government officials are foreign nationals.

Since Chalupa allegedly engaged in both activities as a DNC staffer, this collusion would constitute an illegal, in-kind contribution. And, even though the DNC claimed it “did not incorporate [Chalupa’s] findings in its dossiers on the subjects,” that would be irrelevant as the DNC solicited and received valuable opposition research.

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We don't know if the DNC was hacked.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.


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The timing and nature of the payments to Perkins Coie by Obama’s official campaign arm raise significant questions about whether OFA was funding Fusion GPS, how much Obama and his team knew about the contents and provenance of the dossier long before its contents were made public, and whether the president or his government lieutenants knowingly used a partisan political document to justify official government actions targeting the president’s political opponents named in the dossier. According to the Washington Post, Fusion GPS was first retained by Perkins Coie on behalf of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign in April of 2016.

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So much desperation... I love it.

As always...

Conservatives post about facts and back up their assertions with news articles that are literally packed with useful and timely, relevant information while the howler class howls whatever meaningless buzzwords are echoing around in their empty heads

(Situation normal for this forum)

Bosco, every time you post an article about any thing it is:

1. Off topic and irrelevant
2. Filled with partisan assertions with no basis in fact.

Usually both 1 and 2. Almost always 2.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

Nothing? Not a single claim has been refuted.

More pops pops pops :)

(And quotations of partisan nonsense)

Just no facts.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

Nothing? Not a single claim has been refuted.

More pops pops pops :)

(And quotations of partisan nonsense)

Just no facts.

Oh pops, let's take that the attorney Cohen has never been to Prague let alone been there when the dossier says he was.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

Nothing? Not a single claim has been refuted.

More pops pops pops :)

(And quotations of partisan nonsense)

Just no facts.

Oh pops, let's take that the attorney Cohen has never been to Prague let alone been there when the dossier says he was.

Congratulations pops! :)

You got one!!! Cohen's passport does not show a stamp from Czech Republic. The location of a meeting. That is a FAR cry from "Many of the claims in the dossier have been refuted."

Nice one pops!

LOL pops :)

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

Nothing? Not a single claim has been refuted.

More pops pops pops :)

(And quotations of partisan nonsense)

Just no facts.

Oh pops, let's take that the attorney Cohen has never been to Prague let alone been there when the dossier says he was.

Congratulations pops! :)

You got one!!! Cohen's passport does not show a stamp from Czech Republic. The location of a meeting. That is a FAR cry from "Many of the claims in the dossier have been refuted."

Nice one pops!

LOL pops :)

Pops, what happened to none of the claims were debunked? I'll tell you what. Steele himself said the dossier wasn't verified but you're hanging your ass on it because you threw fairy dust in the air and made a big wish that it be true. So, you're sticking with it.

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http://thefederalist.com/2017/10/29/obamas-campaign-gave-972000-law-firm-funneled-money-fusion-gps/

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The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.



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Pure partisan nonsense.

Please cite a SINGLE claim that has been refuted based on empirical fact.

Please cite your drip drip drip you love to talk about. From anyplace that's main stream. Not one of your hokey obscure sites.

Nothing? Not a single claim has been refuted.

More pops pops pops :)

(And quotations of partisan nonsense)

Just no facts.

Oh pops, let's take that the attorney Cohen has never been to Prague let alone been there when the dossier says he was.

Congratulations pops! :)

You got one!!! Cohen's passport does not show a stamp from Czech Republic. The location of a meeting. That is a FAR cry from "Many of the claims in the dossier have been refuted."

Nice one pops!

LOL pops :)

Pops, what happened to none of the claims were debunked? I'll tell you what. Steele himself said the dossier wasn't verified but you're hanging your ass on it because you threw fairy dust in the air and made a big wish that it be true. So, you're sticking with it.

Ohhhh.... pops....

You don't know the difference between unverified and debunked.

Get out that dictionary, pops!

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I'm curious as to how information can be considered a contribution. That seems unconstitutional by way of violating freedom of speech & association.

And both campaigns may very well come under fire for that same thing, so this isn't a leftist question.

From the article:

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Specifically, the complaint contends that, last year, Ukrainian-American operative and DNC consultant, Alexandra Chalupa met with Ukrainian government officials to get information in an effort to expose ties between Trump, his former campaign manager Paul Manafort and Russia. As reported, a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy was instructed to help Chalupa conduct research on connections between Trump, Manafort and Russia. The DNC subsequently acknowledged that it had knowledge of the research.

First, according to federal law, an in-kind contribution consists of “anything of value, including information and leads, the fruits of paid research, or similar investigatory activity, to a political committee.” Second, federal law also prohibits accepting or receiving anything of value from foreign nationals and the Ukrainian government officials are foreign nationals.

Since Chalupa allegedly engaged in both activities as a DNC staffer, this collusion would constitute an illegal, in-kind contribution. And, even though the DNC claimed it “did not incorporate [Chalupa’s] findings in its dossiers on the subjects,” that would be irrelevant as the DNC solicited and received valuable opposition research.

Hillary and the DNC paid nine million + to their Russian collaborator friends for opposition research, dirt on political campaigns doesn't come cheap even if it is fiction (like what they paid for vs. Trump)

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A month ago, paying Russians for dirt on opposition politicians was literally "treason" but now that it is being learned that the Democrats did it vs Trump and not the other way around it is just "ordinary every day opposition research" with the usual "nothing to see here" dismissive

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I know one of these is Bosco:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Ydoh_5EjU

Here you are howling one post before this one, about posts that you believe to be off topic

Tell us, is it fun being insane, or does it hurt as much as it looks like it might