heavyblinker
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Your article proves MY point, not yours. Trump won but spent less money (assuming the Russia assist was free and not envelopes passed under tables)... proving funding isn't everything. There's a difference between saying 'Hillary cut off Bernie's funding' and 'the primary was rigged, democracy was hacked'. It wasn't fair, but in order to say that the primary was rigged you have to prove that Bernie didn't lose for other reasons. You can't prove that any more than you can prove that Trump would have lost without Russia or the Comey letter. Anyways, this little fantasy has no bearing on the reality, which is that Bernie actively IGNORED the joint fundraising agreement: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democrats-express-outrage-over-allegations-of-early-control-for-clinton-in-2016/2017/11/02/84e949da-c000-11e7-97d9-bdab5a0ab381_story.html?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.9615eb2dbb86 quote:
The joint fundraising agreement allowed Clinton to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars from individual donors — money that was spread across state parties under federal campaign guidelines. Sanders had a different fundraising model, relying more on small-dollar donations directly to his campaign, and he told the DNC that his campaign was not interested in following the same program. Aren't you right-wing types the people who are always saying that you deserve to keep what you work for? People were donating to Hillary and the DNC at the same time... but she was still the one doing the fundraising for BOTH. So why exactly would the DNC back someone who actively refused to help them out when their finances were so dire? Someone who complained about 'big money' as if money grows on trees and nobody actually cares about bankruptcy? And on top of that, someone who could have done the same thing Clinton did, could have raised more money for himself and others, could have had just as much support and control within the party-- but didn't do it, because of his 'principles'? quote:
In a September 2015 email obtained by The Washington Post, a lawyer from Perkins Coie, a law firm representing both the DNC and the Clinton campaign, wrote the Sanders campaign with a copy of what was presented as a “standard joint fundraising agreement.” “This is the same one we have used with other campaigns,” wrote attorney Graham Wilson. At the end of the same email, Wilson suggested that should the Sanders campaign raise “significantly more” money than was required to pay for the party voter file, then Sanders could have a say in how those funds would be used “to prepare for the general election.” “The DNC has had discussions like this with the Clinton campaign and is of course willing to do so with all committees raising funds for the Committee,” Wilson wrote. Weaver said the Sanders campaign decided early on to ignore the joint fundraising program and raise small dollars on its own to pay for access to the voter file. “Who are the wealthy people Bernie was going to bring to a fundraiser?” Weaver asked. “We had to buy the voter file right before the primaries.” Sanders' people fucked up by not using the joint fundraising program... so that's Hillary's fault? Sounds like Hillary saved the DNC, and yeah, they were happy about it. So by doing that, is she rigging democracy or simply being smart about fundraising, making friends, being a team player and reaping the rewards of her own efforts? It seems to me that it's a testament to the absurd fantasy realm that Bernie lives in, where you can refuse to help your friends, watch the DNC crumble, and then expect everyone to love you and think you're wonderful. All that this proves that Bernie isn't a real Democrat, and he wasn't as popular as people like to think. Hillary wouldn't have 'controlled' the DNC if someone else had also exploited the joint fundraising program, but apparently populists are too high and mighty to do that. Regardless, it's a model that definitely causes problems (big corporate donors, essentially buying influence in the DNC) and it's good that the truth is coming out. Now if only the GOP would do the same about Trump.
< Message edited by heavyblinker -- 11/3/2017 3:29:12 AM >
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