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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 4:24:56 PM   
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those who are protecting him are republicans too

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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 4:37:11 PM   
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So how do you find out if it is a false accusation? If the accused is acquitted?



You missed my post earlier (I'm sure it was unintentional) that went into more detail. I said that if it could be PROVEN that they PURPOSELY accused someone falsely ...




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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 4:47:25 PM   
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How will the R's cover the $1.3T deficit created by the wealth shift to the already filthy rich?


It was more like a $12-$14 trillion hit to home equity and retirement funds and workers and tax payers et al. How all that wound up as being a mere $1.3 trillion increase in the deficit remains a mystery.

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Das Trumpster . . .


It's actually "Der Trumpster."

In de., masculine nouns and reference to males require the definite article "der" if the noun it precedes is in the nominative case (subject of sentence).

So, I'm all on my pedantic toes today, ain't I?

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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 7:02:06 PM   
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when they accuse entertainers of sexual misconduct (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Louis C.K.)

BUT we strain and rail against the VICTIMS when politicians are accused (Roy Moore, Donald Trump)? She's a lyin' bitch. Why'd she wait so long? etc.

Why do we so knowingly accept accusations against entertainers (uh huh, what I thought) but we flat out don’t believe the accusations against our politicians?

Why do we accept one of the accused groups automatically as scum but the other as innocent victims of lying, weaseling women?

Is there a moral difference between political paedophilia and show biz paedophilia?

What do you think?


I don't discriminate. I don't fucking believe any of them.

Why? Because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And trial by social media is not proof. It's gossip.

Women aren't victims if there's been no crime. And just because a woman says there was doesn't mean there actually was.

The justice system weighs evidence, not hearsay.


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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 8:09:41 PM   
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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 8:27:36 PM   
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Nothing about this has anything to do with the "justice" system




Until someone files a defamation of character suit.

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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 9:12:05 PM   
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when they accuse entertainers of sexual misconduct (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Louis C.K.)

BUT we strain and rail against the VICTIMS when politicians are accused (Roy Moore, Donald Trump)? She's a lyin' bitch. Why'd she wait so long? etc.

Why do we so knowingly accept accusations against entertainers (uh huh, what I thought) but we flat out don’t believe the accusations against our politicians?

Why do we accept one of the accused groups automatically as scum but the other as innocent victims of lying, weaseling women?

Is there a moral difference between political paedophilia and show biz paedophilia?

What do you think?


I don't discriminate. I don't fucking believe any of them.

Why? Because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And trial by social media is not proof. It's gossip.

Women aren't victims if there's been no crime. And just because a woman says there was doesn't mean there actually was.

The justice system weighs evidence, not hearsay.


This is not the justice system. This is social condemnation. Entertainers and politicians are not judged in courts of law.

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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/13/2017 11:36:45 PM   
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when they accuse entertainers of sexual misconduct (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Louis C.K.)

BUT we strain and rail against the VICTIMS when politicians are accused (Roy Moore, Donald Trump)? She's a lyin' bitch. Why'd she wait so long? etc.

Why do we so knowingly accept accusations against entertainers (uh huh, what I thought) but we flat out don’t believe the accusations against our politicians?

Why do we accept one of the accused groups automatically as scum but the other as innocent victims of lying, weaseling women?

Is there a moral difference between political paedophilia and show biz paedophilia?

What do you think?


I don't discriminate. I don't fucking believe any of them.

Why? Because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And trial by social media is not proof. It's gossip.

Women aren't victims if there's been no crime. And just because a woman says there was doesn't mean there actually was.

The justice system weighs evidence, not hearsay.



Just because a woman didnt...or couldnt...report at that exact moment when she was violated that she was violated, it doesnt mean it didnt occur. Same goes for a man. Just because he didnt....or cant....report at the moment he was violated that he was violated, it doesnt mean it never happened either.


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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 3:40:58 AM   
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Nothing about this has anything to do with the "justice" system




Until someone files a defamation of character suit.


yes, you got it, UNTIL...but nothing so far, has anything to do with justice...do you believe that a defamation suit proves innocence?
Who do you expect to bring a defamation suit?
against who?



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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 6:34:16 AM   
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Nothing about this has anything to do with the "justice" system


Of course it is. Public accusations need to be weighed in court, because otherwise these so-called "victims" are engaging in slander.

I know you hate men and think women should be able to libel them without consequence, but that is not the way a functioning society operates. Your stupidity and inability to understand why evidence is important is an example of how logical thinking is foreign to so many women.


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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 6:37:36 AM   
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when they accuse entertainers of sexual misconduct (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Louis C.K.)

BUT we strain and rail against the VICTIMS when politicians are accused (Roy Moore, Donald Trump)? She's a lyin' bitch. Why'd she wait so long? etc.

Why do we so knowingly accept accusations against entertainers (uh huh, what I thought) but we flat out don’t believe the accusations against our politicians?

Why do we accept one of the accused groups automatically as scum but the other as innocent victims of lying, weaseling women?

Is there a moral difference between political paedophilia and show biz paedophilia?

What do you think?


I don't discriminate. I don't fucking believe any of them.

Why? Because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And trial by social media is not proof. It's gossip.

Women aren't victims if there's been no crime. And just because a woman says there was doesn't mean there actually was.

The justice system weighs evidence, not hearsay.


This is not the justice system. This is social condemnation. Entertainers and politicians are not judged in courts of law.
Everybody is judged in a court of law. Trial by social media - based upon nothing more than highly suspect accusations from broken women - might be entertaining theatre to the proles such as yourself who are members of low socio-economic groups - however it has a highly toxic influence upon the society.

Make no mistake, this is a dangerous social movement which is already turning upon itself. I don't expect you to understand - you simply lack the mental faculties to think clearly.




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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 6:41:55 AM   
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when they accuse entertainers of sexual misconduct (Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Kevin Spacey, Louis C.K.)

BUT we strain and rail against the VICTIMS when politicians are accused (Roy Moore, Donald Trump)? She's a lyin' bitch. Why'd she wait so long? etc.

Why do we so knowingly accept accusations against entertainers (uh huh, what I thought) but we flat out don’t believe the accusations against our politicians?

Why do we accept one of the accused groups automatically as scum but the other as innocent victims of lying, weaseling women?

Is there a moral difference between political paedophilia and show biz paedophilia?

What do you think?


I don't discriminate. I don't fucking believe any of them.

Why? Because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. And trial by social media is not proof. It's gossip.

Women aren't victims if there's been no crime. And just because a woman says there was doesn't mean there actually was.

The justice system weighs evidence, not hearsay.



Just because a woman didnt...or couldnt...report at that exact moment when she was violated that she was violated, it doesnt mean it didnt occur. Same goes for a man. Just because he didnt....or cant....report at the moment he was violated that he was violated, it doesnt mean it never happened either.

A report 30 years later is not only highly suspect, but the fragile nature of memory makes it much more likely that she's either remembered poorly, invented it in her mind or is just plain lying.

People shouldn't be answering to testimony of events decades in the past with no corroborating evidence to support their wild accusations. That's a recipe for chaos. The only people who support this idea are fundamentally those who hate men. As this trend continues and this movement turns on itself, I'll be awaiting the exception clauses to this logic which exempt gay (hi Kevin Spacey and George Takei), lesbians, trans and women from similar social approbation when they are also revealed as "abusers" by individuals making accusations without evidence.




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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 6:41:58 AM   
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This is social condemnation. Entertainers and politicians are not judged in courts of law.


They're not? Does O.J. Simpson know about this?

Mike Tyson?

How about John Dean? G. Gordon Liddy?

I'll bet those people (and more) would have a different take on that.

Add to that: it should be a matter of law. FIVE women were too (whatever) to come forward for over 30 years. That's some percentage, but as far as I'm concerned, they're not going into the unreported category, just yet. They ain't proved a damned thing.

Don't get me wrong, I'm convinced, but they haven't PROVEN it happened. There's a big difference.




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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 6:58:05 AM   
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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:03:09 AM   
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should, would could
it isnt...



and THAT is also a crime.





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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:07:05 AM   
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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:09:46 AM   
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I should just let you make something up, like you always do, but I will answer:

It's a crime that there will be no criminal charges. Moore should be (should have been?) held to account, legally for his criminal act.

So, as a direct answer: "It's a crime that this won't be tried in a court of law"





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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:20:48 AM   
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paranoid arent you.

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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:25:19 AM   
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Thats why I asked specifically, I needed clarification.
paranoid arent you.


It's not paranoia when you have a history of "throwing out" accusations for which you've been proven wrong, little girl.





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RE: WHY DO WE READILY BELIEVE THE WOMEN (VICTIMS)? - 11/14/2017 7:32:11 AM   
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You claimed I was involved in banning you or attempting to ban you. Its utter bs and
no evidence, no proof not facts
just your feels.
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