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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 7:50:14 AM   
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Poor luny, she's jealous 'cause she lacks the requisite equipment to even take the field!







So do you, mate.

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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 7:52:54 AM   
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So do you, mate.


That's not what your mother said, son.





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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 8:13:15 AM   
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we get it, you cant wave yours very well so you just bullshit on a daily basis, mr wannabe hard man!
LMAO
My dicks( I have several ) dont control my brain...and I dont need to make excuses for it. And it doesnt have a misogynist opinion.




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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 9:10:23 AM   
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You don't fucking get it (again).

Who the fuck made you "thread cop"?

Your haughty indifference when you casually throw around derogatory bullshit doesn't insulate you from the consequences of your actions.

Your propensity to disparage with condescension doesn't make you better than others; you just think it does.

You're a tired hack.





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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 9:21:21 AM   
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...And it doesnt have a misogynist opinion.



More passive-aggressive accusation.

Poor luny. You're such a "victim".





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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 9:27:27 AM   
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LMAO Im not the one crying out for sympathy, you sad little wanker.
ive been a victim, Im not one any more,
sadly you will always be one.



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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 9:38:27 AM   
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... sadly you will always be one.



A threat, perhaps? It doesn't matter. If you feel froggy, you ignorant, condescending, shit-fer-brains, start jumping.





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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 10:04:12 AM   
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thb---its always telling when people who are not believers act as if they have some sort of superior knowledge and insight as to the nature of Christian thought and life.

in this case, at least the way its presented, it just boils down to snark---and isn't too far off the mark of my mentioning elsewhere "the comrades ruining" the conversation.

Oh one can always find superior 'knowledge' wherever one chooses to but insight into the 'nature' of Christain thought in life, is a practice in self deception or delusional.

As for snark, non-believers have been getting nothing but snark as godless heathens and for centuries. I guess we are not up to par with the god fearing, god loving heathens.

I am just admonished to hold high these beliefs in iron age fairy tales or I am surely going to hell.

Get over it, believe what you want to but god is not great and we here and everywhere see how...religion poisons everything, even this board.

I can just imagine the aliens coming in after WWIII and have every right to assess the cause as even after 2000+ years, as the earthling's various tribes didn't really change, tried to or did get nukes and instead, blew themselves up over their personal beliefs that no longer...remained personal.

Tell me, what were these 'superior knowledge and insight(s)' of the Catholics when they wiped out 50 million peasants who were through their 'insight' I guess...blasphemers ?

I guess what the world needs now is back to basics, slip a few bucks to the church and you get absolution, just like...back in the day, even for the already dead.

Now their's profit center even a socialist could love. Fuck your health, save a few bucks to...save your soul brother.
I see a religious Armageddon that the big three predict and wish for when I guess then, we'll have rapture and martyrdom...world wide.

I can't wait, can you ?

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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 10:31:34 AM   
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when I say "definitive source" i not talking about some ultimate end all be all source. im talking about it in reference to catholic thought. so that means some publication like the catechism or the Vatican II---something "official" from the church.


the official catechism of the catholic church on the matter:

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Euthanasia

2276 Those whose lives are diminished or weakened deserve special respect. Sick or handicapped persons should be helped to lead lives as normal as possible.

2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.

Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.

2278 Discontinuing medical procedures that are burdensome, dangerous, extraordinary, or disproportionate to the expected outcome can be legitimate; it is the refusal of "over-zealous" treatment. Here one does not will to cause death; one's inability to impede it is merely accepted. The decisions should be made by the patient if he is competent and able or, if not, by those legally entitled to act for the patient, whose reasonable will and legitimate interests must always be respected.

2279 Even if death is thought imminent, the ordinary care owed to a sick person cannot be legitimately interrupted. The use of painkillers to alleviate the sufferings of the dying, even at the risk of shortening their days, can be morally in conformity with human dignity if death is not willed as either an end or a means, but only foreseen and tolerated as inevitable Palliative care is a special form of disinterested charity. As such it should be encouraged.

Suicide

2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.

2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.

Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.


http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm


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RE: This has me confused. - 11/15/2017 9:20:54 PM   
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we get it, you cant wave yours very well so you just bullshit on a daily basis, mr wannabe hard man!
LMAO
My dicks( I have several ) dont control my brain...and I dont need to make excuses for it. And it doesnt have a misogynist opinion.



Well let's face it - it's not much of a brain, is it? I can't imagine anyone wanting to bother controlling it.


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RE: This has me confused. - 11/16/2017 2:49:48 AM   
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Looking at the things one does not do (i.e unforgivable sins, ticket straight to hell, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars type) in the Christian/Jewish/Muslim faiths, suicide is a very big no no.

There are no unforgivable sins. Yet every sin has to be atoned for.

Christians are the only ones who have declared that martyrs do not go to Heaven.

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Beginning in the third century, however, Christian theologians argued that this kind of behavior shouldn’t be glorified. Within a few decades, the orthodox Christian view was that voluntarily seeking execution was suicide, not martyrdom.


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in the Hadith (that nice book of the prophets sayings extremists use to justify terrorism) there is the following:

The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."
— Sahih al-Bukhari, 2:23:446

The prophet lied. That is not what happens in Hell.

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And the Qur'an is very blunt:

And do not kill yourselves, surely God is most Merciful to you."
— Qur'an, Sura 4

Since Muslims do not do such things, they have not done such things, even though they did do them.

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A person terminally ill and suffering who commits suicide to be free of the pain, are they really committing a mortal sin?

No.

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