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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 10:19:58 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?


I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 10:22:30 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?


I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

It's one of the stock excuses for second amendment fundamentalists: they need guns to protect themselves from oppression and the forces of the ZOG.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 10:25:41 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?

I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

When the police won't do anything to protect you someone has to.


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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 10:27:36 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?

I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

When the police won't do anything to protect you someone has to.


So why are you forever whining on here when a [Word removed] defends themself from the police using their constitutionally protected right to bear arms?

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:02:25 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?

I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

When the police won't do anything to protect you someone has to.


So why are you forever whining on here when a [Word removed] defends themself from the police using their constitutionally protected right to bear arms?

I don't, of course ambushing a cop isn't self defense.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:05:54 AM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.

If I have a natural, God-given right to defend myself, then I say the best, most obvious way to do so is to cut down the number of guns in circulation (or at least make it more difficult for them to end up in the hands of killers), and your bullshit is depriving me of that right.


As a general thing, I don't think people think so much about what's good for society in the USA, so much as what's good for this or that individual. It tends to come back to 'How will I defend myself?' rather than 'how do we reduce the need to defend ourselves from gun attacks in US society?'. Just my impression.

You can look at how bad the cops in Ca were and wonder why people think they need to look at protecting themselves?

I can't see how that relates to my point, Bama.

When the police won't do anything to protect you someone has to.


So why are you forever whining on here when a [Word removed] defends themself from the police using their constitutionally protected right to bear arms?

I don't, of course ambushing a cop isn't self defense.

That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:17:09 AM   
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So why are you forever whining on here when a [Word removed] defends themself from the police using their constitutionally protected right to bear arms?



Uh, for one thing, firing on a police officer is not self defense, it is, regardless of circumstance, attempted capital murder of a law enforcement officer.

A second point, a wise man, regardless of skin color, will inform a police officer of the fact he has a weapon and then, using very slow movements, puts the weapon in view of the officer and steps away.

Now of course, this is assuming that you are dealing with a police officer that is not a cross between Barney Fife and Rambo, in which case, even if you follow the procedure outlined in ever concealed carry course, you are fucked.

Which brings us to this unsettling point, at least a third of active duty law enforcement officers should not have a badge, gun (real or toy) and probably are a danger to the general public due to attitude or personal beliefs.

Or in the case of this sheriff and his department, have no desire to do their job properly or have the slightest notion what 'protect and serve' means.


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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:24:17 AM   
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So why are you forever whining on here when a [Word removed] defends themself from the police using their constitutionally protected right to bear arms?



Uh, for one thing, firing on a police officer is not self defense, it is, regardless of circumstance, attempted capital murder of a law enforcement officer.

A second point, a wise man, regardless of skin color, will inform a police officer of the fact he has a weapon and then, using very slow movements, puts the weapon in view of the officer and steps away.

Now of course, this is assuming that you are dealing with a police officer that is not a cross between Barney Fife and Rambo, in which case, even if you follow the procedure outlined in ever concealed carry course, you are fucked.

Which brings us to this unsettling point, at least a third of active duty law enforcement officers should not have a badge, gun (real or toy) and probably are a danger to the general public due to attitude or personal beliefs.

Or in the case of this sheriff and his department, have no desire to do their job properly or have the slightest notion what 'protect and serve' means.


All good points, but not what I was getting at.
The poster I answered is forever bleating about the sacred second being there to protect the people from government oppression, but also spends a lot of his time complaining about the uppity [Word removed] protesting institutionalised oppression of their bloods by The Man by shooting the occasional cop who's more bent than a male chorus line in a San Francisco theatre doing the can can in drag at a fundraiser for an AIDS charity. Forever harping on the former while making excuses for the latter is a pretty repulsive double standard, frankly. If the [Word removed] don't have the right to bar arms against their oppressors in the corrupt government system, why the hell should anybody else?

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:24:42 AM   
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The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:28:47 AM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:40:37 AM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.



Ambushing a police officer answering a call is flat out murder.

In the revolution, it was usually a bunch of colonials ambushing a bunch of redcoats and it was an open war.

Now granted, under the rules of war at the time, that was rather unsporting of the yanks, as was the nasty habit of enlisted militiamen targeting officers, but the British army sort of learned that the colonial militia did not follow any sort of rules.

While the Colonial army did, which is why there for a time, we lost every engagement with the British. If it had not been for a Prussian training the troops at Valley Forge and the French Navy showing up, the war might have gone differently or lasted a hell of a lot longer.

But, the first field commander to actually use trained troops as snipers was some bloke named Arthur Wellesley, and he really put them to great use against a short Corsican named Bonaparte at a place called Waterloo.

I am of course referring to 95th Regiment of Foot (Rifles), the first unit issued and trained with true rifles, instead of the smooth bore muskets.



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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:51:20 AM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.

So you think that the Black people in this country are, and should be in revolt against the U S government and should be treated as such.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:51:52 AM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.



Ambushing a police officer answering a call is flat out murder.


Whereas shooting a [Word removed] who's already surrendered is negligence at worst: that's why you have a race war brewing.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:53:51 AM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.

So you think that the Black people in this country are, and should be in revolt against the U S government and should be treated as such.

If you're treating them as such anyway, it makes no difference how they behave.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 11:59:50 AM   
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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 12:09:48 PM   
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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 12:22:51 PM   
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This is truly, deeply deranged and I am shocked that even you would repost it.
Gun culture isn't just about defending yourself, it's also about creating an environment where guns are easily procured to be used in crimes.


Right. So, how do we prevent the second while allowing for the first?


Huh?

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So, completely ignore the repeated calls for improving the background check system. That's going to help.


I have not said anything even close to this, and I have no idea why you are saying it.

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How would you propose we "cut down the number of guns in circulation?"


Obviously if they are more difficult to legally obtain, fewer people will be able to own them.
This means fewer sales, weaker demand and fewer guns being manufactured.

Of course, at this point it is futile because decades of GOP/NRA policies have proliferated ridiculous amounts of guns across the US and the world.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 12:26:07 PM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.



Ambushing a police officer answering a call is flat out murder.


Whereas shooting a [Word removed] who's already surrendered is negligence at worst: that's why you have a race war brewing.

Since I have never taken any such position and if you paid attention you would know it.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 12:39:53 PM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.



Ambushing a police officer answering a call is flat out murder.


Whereas shooting a [Word removed] who's already surrendered is negligence at worst: that's why you have a race war brewing.

Since I have never taken any such position and if you paid attention you would know it.

I do pay attention, which is how I've noticed that there's no excuse for police incompetence, corruption or just plain stupidity that's too facile for for you.

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RE: Another day, another "small" mass shooting - 11/18/2017 12:57:14 PM   
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That's the nub of your whining in a nutshell right there

The fact that you don't know the difference between ambushing, resisting arrest and
self defense is the problem.

The fact that you're finding the methods used during the American rebellion against the oppressive forces of George III unacceptable when they're used against the ZOG's enforcers by one of the minorities the authorities are oppressing is merely reiterating the nub of your problem.



Ambushing a police officer answering a call is flat out murder.


Whereas shooting a [Word removed] who's already surrendered is negligence at worst: that's why you have a race war brewing.

Since I have never taken any such position and if you paid attention you would know it.

I do pay attention, which is how I've noticed that there's no excuse for police incompetence, corruption or just plain stupidity that's too facile for for you.

Go back and read this thread. I have been attacking police incompetence from the beginning .
This incident only happened because the police took every opportunity to
screw up. So no, you don't pay attention you see what you want to.

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