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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Maybe those speshul snowflakes who are offended need a 'safe space'. 
*** Speshul Snowfwake Alert ***
So, this is a few weeks old, but I literally just heard about it this morning.
https://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2017/10/27/16562566/2017-nba-golden-state-warriors-draymond-green-rips-houston-texans-owner-bob-mcnair
Bob McNair is the owner of the Houston Texans NFL franchise. quote:
McNair, advocating for the NFL to instate a rule mandating that players stand for the National Anthem, said, “we can’t have the inmates running the prison.”
The "inmates running the prison" phrase garnered a lot of criticism for McNair. Right, wrong, whatever. This is the only part I'd heard about. I shook my head over the backlash. Obviously, McNair wasn't saying that the NFL is a prison (who wouldn't want to be an inmate in THAT prison, getting paid hundred's of thousands of dollars, at a minimum?!?), so the players aren't inmates.
Now, Golden State Warriors star player Draymond Green jump into the fray (and I hadn't heard this part until this morning). On Twitter: quote:
I don’t think it should be up to him to change his behavior. They got a commissioner just like any other league. First they were sons of bitches and now inmates? I know some inmates. They don’t pay taxes. They’re not community leaders. They’re not (Philadelphia Eagles safety Malcolm) Jenkins, flying to the White House, flying to DC, doing all these things to make a difference. They’re not (former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin) Kaepernick, donating $1 million. That’ like, come on, man - inmates? That’s unacceptable.
Will (NFL commissioner Roger Goodell) react to it is the question? I mean, I wouldn’t personally want to play for somebody who view me as an inmate. Because I haven’t done nothing in my life to be an inmate. To be an inmate, you’re either in a hospital or in prison. I’m not in a hopsital and I’m for damn sure not in prion. Then you say, some people commented on my pot that, “Hey, it’s a figure of speech.” Agree or disagree, figure of speeches aren’t okay in 2017. If I come out and give a figure of speech that’s not socially okay, I’m going to get fined. I’m going to get ridiculed. If I come out and give a figure of speech on anything - whether that’s race, whether that’s sexual orientation - whatever that is, if I give a figure of speech in 2017, I’m going to get ridiculed by any group that’s formed to protect one’s group. I’m going to get fined by the NBA. I’m going to be looked at ridiculously by the community. So why is that okay? I disagree with that. If you’re an inmate, you’re not playing. They pay taxes jut like he pay taxes and, if I’ve learned a bit about business, maybe more. So it’s a strong word to use about someone else’s kids again. It’s crazy.
And then on Instagram: quote:
Wow! This sure does sound very Donald Sterling-esque. But I’m sure the fans pay to see him play and he’s putting himself at risk of CTE by going out there every Sunday and giving 110%! Inmates? For starters, let’s stop using the word owner and maybe use the word Chairman. To be owned by someone just sets a bad precedent to start. It sets the wrong tone. It gives one the wrong mindset. Webster states that an inmate is a person confined to an institution such as a prison or hospital. Not sure these tax paying men should be referred to as inmates- but what do I know?
The part that has gotten Green the most criticism is his call to stop using the word, 'owner,' attempting to tie it to slavery.
Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Maverick's NBA franchise wasn't real happy about that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/11/04/mark-cuban-slams-draymond-green-over-call-to-stop-using-the-word-owner/?utm_term=.3b60e8c7ecfb quote:
“For him to try to turn it into something it’s not is wrong,” Cuban told ESPN. “He owes the NBA an apology. I think he does, because to try to create some connotation that owning equity in a company that you busted your ass for is the equivalent of ownership in terms of people, that’s just wrong. That’s just wrong in every which way.
“People who read that message and misinterpret it — make it seem like we don’t do everything possible to help our players succeed and don’t care about their families and don’t care about their lives, like hopefully we do for all of our employees — that’s just wrong.”
Cuban called McNair’s comments “wrong, ridiculous” but said that doesn’t make it right for Green to equate ownership of a team or company to ownership of people, as in slavery.
“If you want to talk about slavery and everything that’s important about it and some people who make comments and don’t respect other individuals, great, let’s have that conversation about people who don’t respect others,” Cuban said. “But don’t try to suggest that because we have a team and the nomenclature is ‘owners’ because we own shares of stock, own equity, that it’s analogous to slavery. That’s just as bad [as McNair’s comment]. It’s just as bad.
“Don’t ask me. Ask anybody who’s ever played for me. Ask anybody who’s ever worked for me. I’m far from perfect, but that’s certainly not a connotation that you’re going to hear from anybody that I’ve ever been associated with. I’ve been brutally honest about racism and how we have to work hard to overcome it, but to suggest that an NBA team is some sort of … I’m not even going to go there.”
Draymond Green didn't back down....
http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/16/draymond-green-addresses-mark-cubans-criticism-for-arguing/ quote:
“I wasn’t going to get into a back-and-forth with Mark Cuban. That wasn’t my whole point,” Green said. “My point wasn’t to get in a back-and-forth with anyone. My point was to get in a conversation that needed to be had. When you look at Mark Cuban for instance with the whole equity thing and different sorts, we can all own equity and that’s fine. But Mark Cuban would never know or understand how it feels for me, a young black African American to turn on the TV and see what happened in Charlottesville. He’ll never have that feeling. When I say, ‘Hey maybe we shouldn’t use that word,’ to be honest, I don’t expect him to understand where I’m coming from. He’ll never feel what I feel when I turn on the TV and see however many people taken down by the KKK.”
Green said he has met with business leaders out of respect for their expertise and possible hope to become a businessman after he retires from the NBA. Green said he has a close relationship with Warriors co-owners Joe Lacob and Peter Guber. But Green argued that professional sports owners should be addressed as a “CEO” or a “Chairman” as other business leaders are.
“Do they really own you, the person? When you think about a basketball team or a football team, when you think of the Golden State warriors, you don’t think of the bridge that is on the front of the jersey,” Green said. “You probably think of Steph Curry.”
Green agrees we can all own 'equity.' But, what he can't get his head around is that when a person, such as Mark Cuban who owns majority equity stake in a franchise actually, for all intents and purposes, owns the franchise. What Green can't get through his head is that a franchise is not the players themselves. A business owner owns the business, but not the people who work for that business. When the current crop of players are no longer with the Warriors, Mavericks, Texans, or whatever sports franchise you want to name, the franchise will still exist, even if only on paper (see what happened to the Cleveland Browns NFL franchise in the late '90's).
Draymond Green, sir, you are a speshul snowfwake.
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