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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 1:54:14 PM

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If it had said fuck hillary, the town would have made him mayor.

Any proof? Didn't think so. There were complaints. He looked into it. He was told the person could be prosecuted. He dropped it. She (the truck owner) was pulled over for a separate incident and hasn't been charged under the obscenity laws (which has been posted) for the window sign.

Even if the whole town was pro-Trump, save for the pickup owner, why would the police chief been made mayor? He did nothing partisan. FFS, it's within the realm of possibility that he dropped it because he didn't want any accusations of partisanship made.

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Despite long being considered a Republican county, Fort Bend went blue on Nov. 8 when Hillary Clinton won the county with an almost seven-point margin of victory. It wasn’t just an electoral flip —

https://www.texastribune.org/2017/01/03/diverse-fort-bend-election-draws-questions-about-i/

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 1:55:45 PM

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never fear sherlocks here

never mind that i do indeed enjoy a mystery---every so often I feel badly about the way some people here treat you.

and then you post something like that...and im reminded youre probably getting what you deserve.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 1:59:13 PM

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OFFS lighten up .
my eyes rolled back in my head so far I could see my shoulder blades.
I dont use bumper stickers or obnoxious t shirts, while I wear BDSM type tshirts, it comes from not having an outward need to profess my politics, or religion. Ive certainly laughed at a few, ive bought them for other people, but wearing or displaying politics and religion is asking for an argument...from anyone belligerent enough to get offended. I dont need that hassle.
free speech...gets nasty, where is the line? it certainly shouldnt be "dictated" by religion.

Huh. So, you make a stupid comment, get shown just how stupid the comment is, and then it's "OFFS lighten up?"

Don'tcha just hate it when a conservative American shows you up?

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 2:05:48 PM

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OFFS lighten up .
my eyes rolled back in my head so far I could see my shoulder blades.
I dont use bumper stickers or obnoxious t shirts, while I wear BDSM type tshirts, it comes from not having an outward need to profess my politics, or religion. Ive certainly laughed at a few, ive bought them for other people, but wearing or displaying politics and religion is asking for an argument...from anyone belligerent enough to get offended. I dont need that hassle.
free speech...gets nasty, where is the line? it certainly shouldnt be "dictated" by religion.

Huh. So, you make a stupid comment, get shown just how stupid the comment is, and then it's "OFFS lighten up?"

Don'tcha just hate it when a conservative American shows you up?

when it happens I will let you know.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 2:31:45 PM

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never fear sherlocks here

never mind that i do indeed enjoy a mystery---every so often I feel badly about the way some people here treat you.

and then you post something like that...and im reminded youre probably getting what you deserve.

why do you feel badly about the way "some" treat me?
you certainly have been guilty of it. And I dont believe you have ever treated me with anything but disdain. and worse. But I dont whinge to mods and the rest of the posters about how ugly it is.

however i also seem to be able to stand up for myself. no matter how much *some* hate that.
mystery?? not really but thats just my opinion.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 2:49:32 PM

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Bumper stickers such as the one cited shove the owner's vulgarity into the face of every driver following.

Too fucking bad.

So community standards son't matter at all and a leather fetishist should be seated at Chuck E. Cheese wearing only leather chaps and a vest?

Yeah, a straw man taking your thought to an extreme.
I personally think local communities have a right to set standards for public advertising such as placards, billboards, and vehicle born advertisements.
I'm not averse to vulgarity in a private venue but don't care to see it displayed in public.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 3:03:08 PM

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OFFS lighten up .
my eyes rolled back in my head so far I could see my shoulder blades.
I dont use bumper stickers or obnoxious t shirts, while I wear BDSM type tshirts, it comes from not having an outward need to profess my politics, or religion. Ive certainly laughed at a few, ive bought them for other people, but wearing or displaying politics and religion is asking for an argument...from anyone belligerent enough to get offended. I dont need that hassle.
free speech...gets nasty, where is the line? it certainly shouldnt be "dictated" by religion.

Huh. So, you make a stupid comment, get shown just how stupid the comment is, and then it's "OFFS lighten up?"
Don'tcha just hate it when a conservative American shows you up?

when it happens I will let you know.

Amazing. You were so thoroughly shown up you didn't even realize it. That's going to really suck when you come to.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/17/2017 5:59:27 PM

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rightist

theres a good mnottertroll word

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xtian

and there is another.

regardless, whoever you are---its "Christian"

to answer your essentially ridiculous question about who gets to pick the words---painting with a broad brush, every state as well as probably every municipality around the country, so many hundreds of thousands into the millions of places, have public decency/disorderly conduct laws, under which certain speech would fall.

given the nature of the political map, that overwhelmingly points to bi-partisan legislation in creating them, not the "holy roman church" or the "right-wing 'xtians.'"

you are not very intelligent or conversant with the English language, are you Russian?

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/xtian-

have someone of basic understanding read that to you, you won't understand it but it will just help soak in your uselessness into your brain cells some more.

Yes, nothing bi-partisan about it it is all rightist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_obscenity_law but appears to be various pedophiles and homosexuals who are insuring others go to jail to attempt cover their not so well hidden crimes.

Fuck and shit are the two most common 'swear' words. Has anyone not heard them, tell me how it makes you feel, tell me where it touches you, tell be some more bollocks.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 4:27:26 AM

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since we keep talking about "bumper stickers" it might be helpful to see this:

and also:

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The owner of the truck with a "F__k Trump" sticker was released from jail Thursday night after her husband posted her bond.

Mike Fonseca said his wife, Karen, was picked up Thursday afternoon for an outstanding warrant from August. He posted her bond Thursday night, and she was released from jail about an hour later...

"I'm almost certain it does have to do with this," she said. "People abuse the badge, and in my opinion, money talks. When you're in politics, people know how to work the system."

Records show Karen Fonseca is accused of fraud. The Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office said they made the arrest after getting a tip about the warrant.

Fonseca made headlines Wednesday after Nehls threatened to arrest her for the anti-Trump sticker on her pickup...

“The objective of the post was to find the owner/driver of the truck and have a conversation with them in order to prevent a potential altercation between the truck driver and those offended by the message. Since the owner of the truck has been identified, the Sheriff took down the post,” a Fort Bend County Sheriff’s Office spokesperson said Thursday.

The Fort Bend County District Attorney said his office had no plans to file charges over the sticker.

http://www.khou.com/news/crime/woman-with-f__k-trump-sticker-arrested-on-outstanding-warrant/492451811

so op, with more of the story told, does "the right" protect free speech to your level of satisfaction now? are they back in your good graces??

and a hint to you and your fellow comrades, something that's been said here multiple times---its the left who on the whole are into quashing and regulating speech they don't like---which makes this narrow (but wrong) case here all the more absurd by contrast.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 4:47:26 AM

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Yes, well fuck that, comrade.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 4:58:53 AM

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CMon Drakk, you know everything bad in the world can be blamed on the libs,

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 6:32:15 AM

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would be good if the lefties here actually got a grasp on reading and using the word "comrade."

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 6:42:48 AM

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would be good if the lefties here actually got a grasp on reading and using the word "comrade."

Until you people learn a functional definition for terms like "socialist" or "liberal" that's a bit feeble, to say the least.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 6:44:21 AM

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would be good if the lefties here actually got a grasp on reading and using the word "comrade."

We know exactly why you use comrade, we know exactly why you only post anti left bullshit
We know that you are also confused and obfuscating, also a selfish partisan hack and a bullshitter.
you have the credibility of bozoX
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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 9:13:46 AM

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Free speech/expression has had certain restrictions for some time. Obscenity has long been one of those restrictions. Unfortunately, it's never been very well defined, relying upon "community standards". In effect, this puts the definition of obscenity where (I believe) it belongs; in the hands of the public to decide.

Quite frankly, I find people putting bumper stickers like this on their vehicles to be presumptuous as well as vulgar since they have NO "RIGHT" to decide to what my children and grandchildren will be exposed.

I, on the other hand, think you should be able to say what you like, and a few words won't harm any children.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 9:53:02 AM

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would be good if the lefties here actually got a grasp on reading and using the word "comrade."

I think the problem lies in the lap of the Russian righties with use of the word.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 10:26:21 AM

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would be good if the lefties here actually got a grasp on reading and using the word "comrade."

I think the problem lies in the lap of the Russian righties with use of the word.

Ah! They keep misusing the term in what they think is a socialist fashion (people I know who speak some Russian and visited the USSR back when that was still thing insist that "tovarisch" has a more similar colloquial meaning in Russian to "friend" or "bro" than "comrade" anyway) are making excuses for their leader outing himself as one of Putin's serfs then?

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 1:47:58 PM

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I, on the other hand, think you should be able to say what you like, and a few words won't harm any children.

and that is your right, but a time-honored principle in this country is that your rights don't supersede mine. I believe that children are best allowed to be children for as long as possible. I think we tend to force them to "grow up too soon."

I would also add: it was always the slant of the left that "If just one child can be saved from..." then, it was worth forcing their view on everyone.

Has the well-being of children become less important or was it always a matter of political expedience?

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 2:20:24 PM

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Also: Objecting to public vulgarity doesn't make anyone "thin-skinned", it makes them unwilling to allow others to impose their moral standards on themselves or their loved ones. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

Your morals end where others' begins. You don't get to impose your morals upon others.
If your grand/children know what "fuck" means? Shame on you for bad parenting.

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My right to speak freely is more important than the right of his grandchildren to be protected from hearing or reading the words. Bookburning 101.

A-FUCKING-MEN.

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Has the well-being of children become less important or was it always a matter of political expedience?

They're no more important than the rights of adults. Nor is the lettering going to jump off the back of the pick-up and actually endanger their "well-being".

Ok, now that I've played devil's advocate...

Do I endorse the vulgarity? No. Do I endorse the truck owner's right to express themselves in this passive manner? Yes.
I'd be more concerned with the asshole seeing out their back windshield for safety's sake.

FFS people. There's much more important matters to get heated over than some jerk's poor choice of vocabulary.

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RE: The right are all about protecting free speech... - 11/18/2017 2:28:52 PM

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Also: Objecting to public vulgarity doesn't make anyone "thin-skinned", it makes them unwilling to allow others to impose their moral standards on themselves or their loved ones. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

Your morals end where others' begins. You don't get to impose your morals upon others.
If your grand/children know what "fuck" means? Shame on you for bad parenting.

Since you asked, my children had no idea what the word meant until someone else told them or until I felt they were old enough that I could answer the question, but that's kind of my point.

Certainly, a six year old can work out the word "FUCK". A six year old doing that (and not knowing the meaning) would precipitate a question that a parent shouldn't have to answer from a six year old.

and shame on you for assuming and then, stating that I am/was a bad parent.

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