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israelislave -> RE: Israel is "now at war" (8/25/2024 8:25:16 PM)
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ORIGINAL: blnymph
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ORIGINAL: israelislave
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ORIGINAL: blnymph
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ORIGINAL: israelislave
1) As to Your First Question
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faisal%E2%80%93Weizmann_agreement
1) They didn't create A Palestine Because "Palestinians" as a Group of people claiming for Palestinian Identity and Heritage did not exist until 1964 when Yaser Arafat came up with this story or better yet, A Fairy tale.
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Sorry, wrong. False. Again: Does NOT get true by repetition.
The territory called Palestine for centuries, and as British Mandate before 1948. was not unpopulated. Whatever identity and heritage you bestow on them, this population existed. Call them the sum of descendants of muslims, crusade leftovers, converted jews, Druze, Samaritans. These people existed, and exist. Even Herzl thought of them, if only in the one sentence I quoted in my first post here. Any attempt to deny them their very existence is one of the sources of Israel's problem, not a solution, despite what Likud and Ozma claim. Face it.
So You are saying that everyone involved with separating the land and assigning this part of land for the future Jewish state were Ignorant? not aware of the population? To it's diversity? the problems it might cause?
During the Mandate, the area saw the rise of two nationalist movements: the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs. Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine ultimately produced the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine and the 1944–1948 Jewish insurgency in Mandatory Palestine. The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was passed on 29 November 1947; this envisaged the creation of separate Jewish and Arab states operating under economic union, and with Jerusalem transferred to UN trusteeship. Two weeks later, Colonial Secretary Arthur Creech Jones announced that the British Mandate would end on 15 May 1948. On the last day of the Mandate, the Jewish community there issued the Israeli Declaration of Independence. After the failure of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine, the 1947–1949 Palestine war ended with Mandatory Palestine divided among Israel, the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank and the Egyptian All-Palestine Protectorate in the Gaza Strip.
No, I was not saying this, as can be read by everyone reading your previous posts. You claimed that Palestinians only existed after Arafat's declarations of the 60s. Now you acknowledge that a Palestinian nationalist movement existed even during the Mandate Era. Oops.
You seem not to notice how much you contradict yourself with your mix of information with misinformation.
I'm saying that every person living or born in this Land Before 1948 was A Palestinian, be it Jewish, Arab, Christian Or other. Arabs who decided to remain in the new Israeli state are about 20% of Israeli citizenship, with actually more rights than An Israeli Jew. The rest of what was supposed to be "A National Home for the Jewish People" and taken Illegally by the Brits to establish Jordan was supposed to be the Arab, Muslim state for all Arabs not within the 1947 Partition bordered as applied by the UN - again, Against International Law, So those Arabs living in what You call the "occupied territories were in fact Jordanian citizens until 1967. Thing is, Jordan refused to accept them into the "New" Jordan such Egypt refused to accept the Gazan back into Egypt after the 1967 war, when the Gazans in fact were under Egyptian Occupation and Law.
These Arabs did NOT claim A "Palestinian" Nationality or A United Identity Until Arafat, Who was An Egyptian, came up with this Idea supported by Russian KGB. Actually their Greatest Bond is their extended family/Tribe/Hamula which's Importance even overarches Religion.
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