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branding for subs - 8/1/2006 6:27:52 AM   
bashfulgirl


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Status: offline 		does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?
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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 7:19:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends on if the dominant is interested in doing something like that.  It's just that simple.  It certainly is nothing to take lightly......i would not suggest grabbing another person and saying:  "Viola!  you are now mine and being branded"....but i am sure there are people out there that have done this too.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 7:40:10 AM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		i know of P/people that enjoy that a lot!   No way i could do it,  a hot ciggy-ash burn down my bra made me wimpy for 6 days.. but sub i talked to loved the constant feel of burns.  i guess it's not diff from tatooing, even some cutting is planned for scarring.  

As far as "rights"..  if sub/ slave/ bottom consents, guess the Dom /Master / Top has the "right" to do so.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 8:08:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		It depends on what's negotiated. If you don't want to be branded, make that clear. If they insist, then they aren't the Master/Mistress for you.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 8:39:16 AM   
amoretta


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quote:

ORIGINAL: bashfulgirl

does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?


In a word... Yes.

They have every right to do it if that is part of the relationship. That is key though.. is it consentual within the bounds of the relationship itself. Whether you practice Gor, Old Guard, New Guard, BDSM, whatever.. you are ultimately practicing your own brand of lifestyle.. as I have yet to come across any relationship that is exactly the same as any other relationship. (In my years in this lifestyle.. I have seen countless relationships with every type of catagorization title slapped on them.)

If it is within the bounds of the relationship that the people are in then yes. If part of the relationship is that the girl or boy is the property of the owner, then in theory that owner can do as they please to their property. It is a harsh way of saying it sure but if the slave doesn't want it, then they can choose to leave. If the owner is so dead set on a branding and will do it even though it may chase off a valued piece of property well.. what does that say about the owner? Personally.. I adore brandings, but if I end up with a Master who just isn't in to them I wouldn't sacrifice the relationship over it.

Having the "right" to do something is a touchy word and is hard to pin down, and I understand that some or all of the things I say here are not going to be agreed upon by most but hey.. differences are good right?

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 9:51:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would say yes. My Master has carved my Collarme name on my tummy and had me tattooed with his name. I'd rather not be branded 'with a piece of  hot steel', but as I'm owned and collared and His property, it really isn't up to me. Branding is just an extension of what He's done already....marking his property. Rather like a farmer branding his cattle. Only they didn't give their consent.  




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does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?


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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:00:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Branding is one of my hottest fantasies. I'd definitely need to do some research, though, before I'd ever be willing to do it in real life.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:23:22 AM   
nephandi


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Status: offline 		Like have been said it depends on the relationship what the Dom have the right, or not the right to do. Branding however should always be taken seriously as if done wrong it can do alot of harm.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:26:45 AM   
tangldupinblue


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Status: offline 		i had a friend who allowed herself to be branded by what turned out to be an abuser rather then a Master, she is now in a legal arrugement about having him pay to have it removed.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:36:56 AM   
raiken


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ORIGINAL: bashfulgirl

does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?


There are those who live intensely close to Gorean ethos, and many who live intensely close to lifestyle Master and slave or Old Guard ethos, and all in between.  There are many "rights" exchanged consentually in all venues and in all activities concerning body modifications. It is not about rights, but rather about consent and personal desires.  It is that simple.  i enjoy observing and learning from other's choices, preferences and desires.  It makes me think and become more open with exploring my own.  i have also learned that when i begin to question their choices, that there is a fine line of demarcation between where the questioning ends and the judging begins. Just something i try to keep in mind, and felt to share. *smile
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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:42:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with what Master Fire Maam said.
Now, on a Collared slave it would be different as she's Owned Property.
But, this is one area among many that should be discussed BEFORE the Collar goes on while she is still your sub.
I consider a Collar to be *permanent* just like marriage.
And, the brand would be permanent as well so I don't see a problem with it as long as both know and agree with it.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 10:49:45 AM   
Kirei


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Status: offline 		Do they have the right?  Only if the slave/sub lets them.  Remember you always have choice, and branding can be risky, its also permanent.....so just make sure that it is something you want done.  If it isn't make sure you and dominant agree that you retain that right until your sure....not them.  You can be collared to someone with no limits, no choice, but when it coems to something permanent like branding or tattoo's one should be very careful about such marks.
  For me it would be the final most dedicated show of their affection and wanting to be with me....and even yet I would be most cautious to making sure for myself also to allow this to happen.  For one its my mark, and there is a lot of honor associated with it.  For if the person leaves then that mark is also a showing of my failure to other dominants, and my rushing too fast into something.

Koneko

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 12:10:10 PM   
raiken


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ORIGINAL: Kirei

For one its my mark, and there is a lot of honor associated with it.  For if the person leaves then that mark is also a showing of my failure to other dominants, and my rushing too fast into something.

Koneko


Interesting perspective, but would it really be a failure on your part? Would other Dominants really judge this type of situation in that matter?  There are so many variables involved here that i feel to make those type of blanket statements is a bit limiting, but that is just my thought.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 2:51:44 PM   
mstrjx


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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Branding is one of my hottest fantasies. I'd definitely need to do some research, though, before I'd ever be willing to do it in real life.

- Susan 


Susan,

I would say it would be safe to say that, short of setting a person on fire (probably nonconsensual but depends on limits of course) that a branding would be literally the hottest scene by definition that one could experience.

I have seen the aftereffects of a brand, not the action itself.  I don't recall the couple identify as Gorean, although I believe they had similarities.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 4:00:47 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		mstrjx: Well I've always thought it would be a huge turn on, in a sadistic kind of scene.But I've always pictured the Dominant-Master person stroking my hair and saying: "There, there, it's okay. Just relax. Good girl", etc., while smiling softly, and being very calm, but really enjoying making it burn. Woah - I have to go take a cold shower now, he.  

- Susan

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 4:37:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd be pretty leary of anyone who thought that branding was as simple as putting a hot piece of steel to flesh.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 4:39:05 PM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Well yes. I know the Gorean stories are not how it actuallly  safe to do (and woe to anyone who might think so).

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 5:33:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whoaa, Susan, that's HOT!!!
How about you being dressed as a Pony Girl and you're led into a stall, have your bit replaced with a gag, your neck lead tied to a fence post while your bent over, wrists tied to your waist belt, your ankles tied so that your legs are spread wide apart and left there like that for a bit and you hear someone talking to someone else about" heating up a branding iron!"
Then, you hear them behind you and turn to see a red hot branding iron!!!
Nothing you'd be able to do at that point!

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 6:04:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pony girl - my latest fantasy. Id love to go to a camp and train as a show / dressage pony and for my Sir to brand me when he comes to pick me up and sees how well i did with my training.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 6:12:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
And, the brand would be permanent as well so I don't see a problem with it as long as both know and agree with it.



Neither here nor there, but brands aren't actually permanant. They're actually much less lasting than tattoos and have been known to heal in a matter of years.

Still, the jist of the action is the same.


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