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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 4:28:21 PM   
popeye1250


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Angie, it IS a very sexy activity though isn't it?
I'm thinking very seriously about going to a weekend of Pony Training on a farm in Minesotta on Sept 15-17.
I just *very* recently got involved with it and can see the potential in it myself.
There's another thread in "General" about Pony Training if you're interested.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 5:08:50 PM   
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The fact of the matter is this... If you represent yourself as being a slave, then you have no rights and I personally don't want to hear any whinning about slave rights... Yes I am hard core.

If the person is stupid enough to say that she is a slave and thinks that is a fantasy play where she does have rights... then perhaps she should get educated or get out ofthe fantasy.


I do not know what fantasy land you live in but the fact is that there are very few no limit slaves and that most slaves prenegotiate their slavery.

An owner may attempt to push the prenegotiated limits but an owner who pushes too hard or violates those limits or the terms of the agreement or contract will soon find himself without a slave.

All slaves have rights; they have the right to practice safe, sane and consensual slavery. They have the right to be protected from harm. They have the right to expect that no permanent physical or emotional damage be done to them. They have a right to good care, housing, food, water and medical treatment.

And anyone who states otherwise raises a big red flag to me. 

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 7:03:22 PM   
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Twice, I agree with you there in that it is the Dominant's *Responsibility* to protect and care for His slave's welfare and wellbeing including housing, food, medical care, happiness etc.
I would only do something like branding if we had discussed it prior.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 8:59:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bashfulgirl

does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?



The right was given to Me by the consent of slave bishop wanting it.she also wanted the tat of Me on her.
I think its different for everyone...What they want or expect out of BDSM.

There is no right or wrong...Just what works for you and yours.



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RE: branding for subs - 8/3/2006 5:24:02 AM   
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You are right, it is the owners resposibility, and any owner worth their salt does it naturally.

And maybe branding is not something that either of the pair thought to bring up before the collaring took place; in those circumstances with something of that serious in nature it should be treated like  a new negotiation.



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RE: branding for subs - 8/3/2006 9:07:24 AM   
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a Dom, or a Master? boy feels if a true Master owns a true slave, that Master has the right to do as he wishs. boy is branded, and boy is very proud of it. but boy feels it would very very foolish for a sub to allow himself to be branded by a Dom

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RE: branding for subs - 8/4/2006 7:49:21 AM   
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MasterandCommand i agree, in a no contract, no "limits" Master/slave relationship the slave have no rights, however there are many relationships that are not like that.

Susan, that was wery hot, i have a similar fantasy of being taken to another Dom, tied to a pole and whipped to get the adrenaline flowing and then tied to e bench and be branded, all the while my Mster being comforting and kind.


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RE: branding for subs - 8/4/2006 7:51:57 AM   
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I prefer the marks I leave be internal.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/4/2006 12:13:21 PM   
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Fast reply- haven't read the whole thread, some of this may be repetition:

Branding is done in Gor, in plain BDSM, in S&M, and in plain vanilla and hardcore body mod life.
A strike branding is the one that uses a piece of hot steel and it generally doesn't leave very pretty, nor very discernable marks- they tend to 'glob'
There is nowe what they call 'laser branding' and it's becoming ever more popular.

EDITED TO ADD LINK HERE: a good place to check out some pics of brandings done on people of all kinks (and no kinks) is here: http://www.stevehaworth.com

Whether your Dominant has the right or not is up to what the two of you have agreed upon.

Many people nowadays, settle for a tattoo instead of a full on brand which assaults the body and makes it work harder to heal.

Just some things to think on =)

< Message edited by ravn -- 8/4/2006 12:24:07 PM >


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RE: branding for subs - 8/5/2006 2:54:10 AM   
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i have actually been branded.  my mistress took me to someoe who was expierenced with the proceedure.  before i was branded i was given the choice.  it was kind of like the point of no return, would i go through with it and be marked forever as my mistress' property, or refuse.  i accepted it willingly, and now i am marked forever with my mistress' monogram, and i couldn't be happier

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RE: branding for subs - 8/6/2006 12:09:39 AM   
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Most brands are 'just pieces of hot steel'. Shaped precisely, temperature controlled, but still just a piece of hot steel.

It doesn't take rocket science, but practice on something - like skin-on chicken - is a most excellent idea. Becoming thoroughly familiar with the procedure is also an excellent idea. There are diferent methods and different ideas on 'the proper' way to do it. 

It isn't always permanent but it can be, depending on how it heels, how deep it was done to begin with, how fast your body replaces skin cells, etc. Just like any other scar that you get from any other source. 

It also is extremely painful...and holding the iron on until it cools is best left in fantasy land. lol

And yes, the owner would have the 'right', simply because he/she/they are the 'owner'...but that's just its personal view of its own relationship needs

< Message edited by lilninotchka -- 8/6/2006 12:11:23 AM >

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RE: branding for subs - 8/6/2006 1:46:54 PM   
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Ravn, thanks for the link.
That guy obviously knows what he's doing!
If I had a slave and she wanted to be branded as a Pony Girl I'd make an appointment to take her to his studio and dress her up as a Pony and have her tied while he branded her.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/6/2006 2:58:24 PM   
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 I've  been exploring the idea of the "pony girl concept myself...and have long thought  that when the right Person comes into my life...i would wear His brand if he so  chooses to mark me in that manner. 
As for the issue the OP addresses i agree...that it is in His/Her right to do whatever they please within the perameters of the relationship.  If  one chooses to become a slave/owned property then  they are bestowing those rights upon the Master.

.http://www.thehumanequine.com/faq.htm

http://www.myponygirl.com/one.htm

http://www.modern-savage.com/branding/branding.php


http://www.answers.com/topic/human-branding


< Message edited by spankmepink11 -- 8/6/2006 3:01:02 PM >

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RE: branding for subs - 8/7/2006 6:02:27 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

As for the issue the OP addresses i agree...that it is in His/Her right to do whatever they please within the perameters of the relationship.  If  one chooses to become a slave/owned property then  they are bestowing those rights upon the Master.


Only if branding is one of those issues discussed in the pre collaring negotiations.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/7/2006 7:18:34 AM   
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The idea of branding is incredibly hot to me but i'd have to know it was forever and be damn sure before taking that step..
As for pony play, in the Beauty series theres one particular passage, she is a ponygirl and basically there is a long run which the girls have to make in full pony gear, hooves, bit gag, body wear, tail etc, the slave that finishes in the best time is the winner and of course the owners, encorage the ponys to run and in the book it mentions how, however fast you run avoiding the stinging is impossible....

Ok, cold shower....

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RE: branding for subs - 8/9/2006 7:05:37 PM   
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my body belongs to Mistress.  if she chose to mark it with hot steel, that is her right.  This is OUR relationship.  there is no right or wrong in D/s, or in any relationship for that matter.  what works for us, may not work for the next couple.

M's m

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RE: branding for subs - 8/10/2006 2:23:58 PM   
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I don't think anyone has the "right" to permanently damage someone else's body.  I think branding is a bit overboard, but that's just me ... I'm not cattle.

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