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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 6:21:57 PM

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Miss, yes, I'm a recent convert to Pont Girl Training myself.
There's a thread about it in "General" that you'd be interested in I'm sure!

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RE: branding for subs - 8/1/2006 9:00:38 PM

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mstrjx: Well I've always thought it would be a huge turn on, in a sadistic kind of scene.But I've always pictured the Dominant-Master person stroking my hair and saying: "There, there, it's okay. Just relax. Good girl", etc., while smiling softly, and being very calm, but really enjoying making it burn. Woah - I have to go take a cold shower now, he.

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Susan... sometimes you just scare me.. LMAO

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 8:55:46 AM

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That is something you need to negotiate beforehand, like everything else. Truth be told a dominant only has the rights you agree to surrender before you are collared.

Personally if my pair wished it i would not hesitate, but that is me....

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 9:03:00 AM

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The word you have to get out of your vocabulary if you're ever going to understand how this works is "right." Don't think in terms of rights.

Oh, and if you ARE going to get a brand, politely/respectfully inform your master or mistress that we don't do it with pieces of hot steel. We're not branding cattle. You have to find an artist to knows what the fuck he's doing. But, of course, you must indicate this politely/respectfully...

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does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel?

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 9:59:37 AM

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mstrjx: Well I've always thought it would be a huge turn on, in a sadistic kind of scene.But I've always pictured the Dominant-Master person stroking my hair and saying: "There, there, it's okay. Just relax. Good girl", etc., while smiling softly, and being very calm, but really enjoying making it burn. Woah - I have to go take a cold shower now, he.

- Susan

I have to say that I am very surprised on the answers that have been posted here... in a positive way.

The fact of the matter is this... If you represent yourself as being a slave, then you have no rights and I personally don't want to hear any whinning about slave rights... Yes I am hard core.

If the person is stupid enough to say that she is a slave and thinks that is a fantasy play where she does have rights... then perhaps she should get educated or get out ofthe fantasy.

Branding can be x-tremely erotic and sensual... especially to the masochist slave... (notice how I clairified that). If you are not a masochist slave then you had better spend a bit of time getting to know your prospective Master to understand what his sadistic tendencies are and might be in the future... This is the responsibility of the slave to spend the time to know what she is getting into... once committed she is property and has no rights... unless she remains as a sub and not a slave. As the last resort, she can beg to be released rather than be branded.

Unfortunately there are those that say one thing and then take you to court because they didn't like what you did to them... to me these are the most dispictable and dishonest people alive. If they were honest, they would not have represented themselves as slaves in the first place, or they would have begged to be released.

Branding is an art unto itself... as somebody has mentioned, it is NOT like branding a cow... no matter what the status of the person as a slave. There is a way to brand as a one strike brand, it takes special preparation and a very finely made brand. It is done at a very consistant temp and the strike must be uniform and consistant in pressure... it takes a lot of practice on pigs skin or something else that can represent the pliability of the skin in the area being branded. I don't recomment it without being taught by somebody that is experienced...

The other way is multistrike branding, this is like using a soldering iron with a specific temp and a special tip (don't even try using a soldering tip). Multistrike is easier to do and not as difficult to make a big mess all at once.

You DO NOT just walk in tie up your slave and brand her... unless you are a total cad... This is a wonderful sadistic ritual and should be done in a very ritualistic way for the sadist and the slave... This whole way of life is about experience and process... not like teenage sex... wham bam... that leaves everybody empty and the slave totally unfulfilled.

Even those in Gor understand the erotic nature as well as the significance of the brand pushing the slave into greater and wonderful deeper levels of submission and love... Yes, this is a mater of romance, suduction and love between the Master and the slave. Yes it is within the forum of Sadism and mascohism as well.... It means that the Master MUST be responsible.

It is my experience that 80% of all Masters are extremely unexperianced or fakes... of the remaining 20%, at least half of those are not responsible or are as I would list as abusive... only about 10% of all Masters would I consider to be experienced and responsible.

Perverseangle is totally correct, depending on how the branding is applied, will depend upon how long it will last... the skin will repair itself over time and the scarring will spread out over time...

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 10:53:05 AM

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Command, and of course you'd be in that "10%", right?
Do you know "Master Lon?"

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 11:13:25 AM

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Unfortunately there are those that say one thing and then take you to court because they didn't like what you did to them... to me these are the most dispictable and dishonest people alive. If they were honest, they would not have represented themselves as slaves in the first place, or they would have begged to be released.

I agree here, while I have branded consenting slaves with my initials, I have always had them sign a consent form first. Its wise to do so no matter how much you feel you trust them at the time.
Tattoo/branding/carving and piercing shops do the same.
Im a beautician, piercer and have knowledge and experience in branding.
Ive had very good luck with branding, and I like it.
But I wouldnt dream of doing that without full consent- subs/slaves have rights always. Its never a "given" right to mark your property.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 12:24:20 PM

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JessieMe: Don't worry. So far, it's al just in my head. This was actuall a fantasy I read about on a ponyplay website, and I adopted it as my own, so far it's complete fiction (at least for me).

I do appreciate the other post (above) on how real branding is done in a responsible manner. It is correct that some assume it's all some Gorean fantasy; hope those people are not planning on branding someone soon.

- Susan

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 1:54:12 PM

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mstrjx: Well I've always thought it would be a huge turn on, in a sadistic kind of scene.But I've always pictured the Dominant-Master person stroking my hair and saying: "There, there, it's okay. Just relax. Good girl", etc., while smiling softly, and being very calm, but really enjoying making it burn. Woah - I have to go take a cold shower now, he.

- Susan

Whew! Please leave that cold water on when you're through ... or move over! What a hot scene!

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:24:03 PM

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The other part that is hot for me is that they brand me for over an hour, and hold it on my skin, (it is on my behind, not my leg) while the brand gets less and less hot - they keep it there for a loong time. I've been gagged the entire time, but in the interim, my protests have gradually turned to mere whimpers, and the entire time, tears have been streaming down my face, even though I am really loving it. The Dominant-Master person remains calm and soothing toward me the entire time.

Also, before I am branded, they lassoe me. I know that sounds weird, but what can I say? it is a fantasy, (and I also know not all of us are cowboys, he.).

- Susan

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:30:29 PM

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Mme, it IS hot as hell, isn't it? You're not the only one! See?

Susan, yes, lasooing! Like a Pony Girl!
I love the way your brain works!

"Ride 'em hard and put em up wet!"

(I don't know about you guys but the heat index was up to 112 here today!
Going for a swim!)
(Because it's HOT, not because of Susan's fantasy!)

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:31:42 PM

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Whoaa, Susan, that's HOT!!!
How about you being dressed as a Pony Girl and you're led into a stall, have your bit replaced with a gag, your neck lead tied to a fence post while your bent over, wrists tied to your waist belt, your ankles tied so that your legs are spread wide apart and left there like that for a bit and you hear someone talking to someone else about" heating up a branding iron!"
Then, you hear them behind you and turn to see a red hot branding iron!!!
Nothing you'd be able to do at that point!

That is totally hot and what would be even hotter, would be to have alot of men watching as that was done to the ponygirl. A major fantasy that I have had since the early days....

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:33:06 PM

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Glad people appreciated it. But - I did steal it from a website (but then again, who really cares? It's still hot, I think).

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:35:00 PM

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SexyRed: Yes, YES! I don't have that particular fantasy, but have similar ones. Like being auctioned off at a pony auction, where prospective buyers test my proclivity to perform certain kinds of activity (not all of them having to do with horse racing). Woah. I better stop now...

- Susan

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:40:13 PM

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SexyRed: Yes, YES! I don't have that particular fantasy, but have similar ones. Like being auctioned off at a pony auction, where prospective buyers test my proclivity to perform certain kinds of activity (not all of them having to do with horse racing). Woah. I better stop now...

- Susan

Seriously Susan, you better stop because it is already over 100 degrees here and thinking about this fantasy is making my head spin!! I have a hot book recommendation for you if you would like to read an erotic story about ponygirls and Masters during the Victorian time. So hot....

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:42:34 PM

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Grins,
and twirls a lariat...

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 2:46:50 PM

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SexyRed: Yes, I'd love to have that recommendation, thank you. I love ponygirl stories, always.

- Susan

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 3:12:24 PM

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does a bdsm Master or Mistress have the right to "brand his/her property with a piece of hot steel? i understand that its done in Gor but in plain bdsm?

Sure they have the right to, certainly my owner branded me.

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Disclaimer: Because you specifically used the term master/mistress I am assuming a master (or mistress)/slave relationship since the linguistic complement to the term master is slave, not submissive.

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 3:56:07 PM

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Sexy Red, yes with a bunch of Pony Wranglers all standing behind her.
And after they brand her they all get to take the Pony Girl one by one! Like six of them!

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RE: branding for subs - 8/2/2006 4:05:52 PM

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Allow me to add my expression of attraction for the ponygirl fantasy and the ultimate branding by the owner. I've never been trained as PG but I have seen others in full dress etc. And yes absolutely the pony auction in a very public place is simply a tingling thought. I would really need to be several years into a lifetime ownership to take a brand in real life I think.

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