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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 8:16:08 PM

ownedgirlie

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Susan, I enjoyed this question and reading the responses. I think Master is always looking out for me with a protective eye, and the best thing he has ever done to protect me thus far is to teach me to protect myself. Not just physically, but in all ways. The lesson continues...

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you feel protectiv... - 8/1/2006 8:26:36 PM

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I think submissives, actually are very protective of their Dominants. Ive seen plenty of them take a bite out of someone like a mad dog for saying something negative about their Master.

I've never had the occasion.. but if A Master pissed me off enough to accost him, HE can deal with me, as the submissive would get nothing from me but 'ignored'.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 8:35:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am not sure what compelled me to ask this. But- I am wondering, just the same. If you Dominants and Masters (or Dommes and Mistresses) don't have one to call your own, then maybe just answer in general. I really am curious. Any particular circumstances, or things they do, perhaps, come to mind that make you feel she/he needs to be protected, more than others?

- Susan

If wouldn't matter if I was with a vanilla lady, a submissive lady or a dominant lady, it's all the same. If we were out at a tavern or restaurant and some punk-ass or drunk grabbed her butt, breasts or touched her in a derogatory manner.... I would look at her, wink and let her take care of it.... but If I look at her and I see an inkling of distress in her eyes... homie gets introduced to the white boy version of Roy Jones Jr - And size don't mean shit to me - neither does the can. I’ll put the cash up and have my Dad fly up, and we’ll smoke the crapy DA { Done it before} who try’s to prosecute me.

- R

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 8:47:02 PM

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I have to say this thread has been so encouraging to read.
Thanks for the answers, people.

As for myself, my family is chock full of attorneys, so if my someday Master ever needed one of those, maybe that could be helpful. I woudn't hesitate to ask, if I thought it could. I also just plain like to soothe people and give them a place to come where they can just forget the rest of the world, and tune it out for awhile, which is protective in its own way.

- Susan

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 8:51:08 PM

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owned girlie: Great answer. I appreciate the teaching types of Dominants and Masters also.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 9:55:14 PM

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Emotionally hurtful circumstances generally, than physically hurtful, unless I'm the one hurting him, than it's okay.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/1/2006 10:35:41 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am not sure what compelled me to ask this. But- I am wondering, just the same. If you Dominants and Masters (or Dommes and Mistresses) don't have one to call your own, then maybe just answer in general. I really am curious. Any particular circumstances, or things they do, perhaps, come to mind that make you feel she/he needs to be protected, more than others?

- Susan

Outside of the obvious physical threats that come in any number of forms in the day-to-day world, I watch intently for attack against her mind. Outside influences that foster the degradation of internalized structure through any number of pathways, such as fear or implanted doubt, doctrinal subversion or upheaval of emotional pain orchestrated by others are things I seek to eliminate from her world entirely.

Other forms of caretaking include monitoring of diet, exercise and overall health. The best way to protect what's yours is caring for it.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you feel protectiv... - 8/2/2006 4:23:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: Tamerofwild1s

are there times where I feel more protective defiently . many times I get puffy chested around situations that affect her

Lol, are you sure that is not a bit of a biker type attitude i see sneaking out?

I've seen this behaviour sneak out of my Master recently, we all went to the ABATE Boogie(sorry i brought it up erin)last week and while he let Mistress and i go out collecting our beads he stayed a little behind and if his chest puffed out any harder we were going to have to buy him a bigger shirt, roflmao........

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you feel protectiv... - 8/2/2006 4:28:25 AM

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The one thing I really appreciate about my Dom is the way he comes to my aid when I have personal struggles. Struggles at work, or in my relationship with my unmentionable. Not only does he support me, but he helps me look at different sides of the issue, and he really listens to what I am saying and provides meaningful input. In those cases I feel protected.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 6:24:34 AM

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Actually I don't think this is a factor of their being submissive as it is a factor of when I love someone I go into a domspace in my mind and heart. I protect everyone I care about and I do think of them as "mine" when that happens. I don't necessarily tell someone that is how I think and I don't treat them that way overtly unless we've negotiated but it is how I feel and think to a good decree.

Since I know my physical limitations are greater than my mental or emotional ones, I'm more likely to act out when I feel someone I love is attacked on those levels. Though there was this time in college when I threatened some fratboys who said something nasty to Tom as we walked down fratlane -- they were shocked and their mouths fell open and Tom pulled me away but I would have gotten into a scape with them if need be (I was much younger and less wise then).

As for situations that trigger this... Attacks on their right to speak their minds or them being interrupted when they talk really annoys me (unless its me ;-)). Name calling really riles me especially of a sexual nature. Attacks on their self-esteem particularly when it is subtle and in my opinion more damaging over time.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 6:33:03 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I am not sure what compelled me to ask this. But- I am wondering, just the same. If you Dominants and Masters (or Dommes and Mistresses) don't have one to call your own, then maybe just answer in general. I really am curious. Any particular circumstances, or things they do, perhaps, come to mind that make you feel she/he needs to be protected, more than others?

- Susan

FOr me, when my sub and I go out in public, there are smaller ways of her showing her submissiveness to me. It is something that we have to do because of the region we live in.
So in that respect I will try to answer as best I can.
I have developed a stage stype system for myself and how I behave. This comes from when I was a bartender, and I would rate the customers on the percieved threat level they presented to myself.
If things seem normal, then I am relatively relaxed.
If there is someone that tweaks me in a bad way, or makes me nervous or my sub nervous, I become more alert. Constantly scanning and looking to see who is where.
If they make overt actions towards myself or my submissive that are unwanted, I will speak to the people in charge of the venue we are at. If they are unable to solve the issue, we will either leave or make our desires known to have the police remove the offending person.
Never in our time as my being her master, have we ever gotten to the last stage.

I am very protective of my one.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you feel protectiv... - 8/2/2006 6:35:23 AM

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Of mine, I feel protective when her knowing she has my full support, isn't enough "horsepower" for her to deal with a situation alone. I encourage mine to be survivable in a world where I might not always be there, instead of striving for their complete dependance on me in every situation.

I feel protective of submissives in general, when I see some DomOneRope trying to whine and snivel a girl into a situation where she can't seem to disengage herself from his relentless pursuit. I've been known to create enough of a diversion of attention so a girl can slip away. Usually they do, and the times they don't, I figure that I've done what I could, and wander on my way.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you feel protectiv... - 8/2/2006 7:21:03 AM

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Susan,
What comes to my mind concerning this is an email our now retired command sargeant major sent out. Where he got it from I am not sure.

WE including those of us in uniform, those first responders either fire or police and Doms and Masters; All that feel the call to protect are basically sheep dogs. We instinctively position ourself between those we protect those that are OURS and those that would threaten the wolves of the world. We train ourself for that moment when nightmare happen we are probaly different from those protected in that we even think about that stuff in first place.

The actually email was much better worded but it got lost in puter crash.

One other point is to agree with Katy above. The vast majority of the time the protection of stepping in front between gun and protected is not the thing. It is those day to day issues of protecting ones dignity (wondering if spelled that right) and self esteem. The hug when needed or the smack on the tush when motivation is needed and hopefully the wisdom to know which is needed when.
(susan with lack of spell checkers and such, now you know why I usually just email you responces)

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 7:26:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: amayos

Outside of the obvious physical threats that come in any number of forms in the day-to-day world, I watch intently for attack against her mind.

This is indeed the biggest threat, isn't it - to allow a cancerous thought to enter, The desctruction from there can be great if not immediately handled.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 8:40:41 AM

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ...

she awakens...or goes to sleep...
I am always there for her when ever she precieves there is a need.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 9:26:39 AM

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Susan, there is a vulnerable, unsure look in the eyes that I respond to. It often just takes companionship in all its forms.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 9:33:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: amayos

Outside of the obvious physical threats that come in any number of forms in the day-to-day world, I watch intently for attack against her mind.

This is indeed the biggest threat, isn't it - to allow a cancerous thought to enter, The desctruction from there can be great if not immediately handled.

Better that she realize her self interests enough to dismiss the thought as invalid immediately. Owners cannot monitor everything that enters a servant's mind on a continual basis.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 10:14:19 AM

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I can think of two very recent specific examples of feeling the need to, and protecting My girl. Here's one:

Our local dungeon had a Master/slave auction in which My girl and I were both on the auction block. A Dom/switch couple won My girl for a pain play session which wasn't played out that night but rescheduled for a later date. The night that they cashed in on their winning bid I was also involved in a session purchased that night. I had discussed with the Dom what the limits were in the scene and since they were both people that we like and trust, I didn't feel the need to stand close by and watch. I did however keep an eye over in their corner of the dungeon when I was able and at one point saw her cuffed to the ceiling, naked, and blind folded, with a man standing nose to nose with her and the DM standing close by. They appeared to be having a conversation while the couple who were supposed to be playing her had their backs to her as they set out their toys.

Later that night, at home, when we were discussing the scene she told Me that the man was bothering her, in her space, and basically threatening to molest her in her helpless state when the DM came along and after some discussion finally asked him to leave. I was furious! How anyone could bind her up and then pay no attention to her and what was happening? The DM noticed and came to her rescue, thank goodness.

I have had a conversation with the man letting him know with no uncertainty that a repeat of that performance or anything resembling it will end quite badly for him. I have had a conversation with the DM, thanking her for her intervention. I've had a conversation with the couple regarding their neglect of My girl. I've talked with My girl and let her know that regardless of what she perceives that someone or anyone else expects of her, her first responsibility is to protect the property, and that in that instance she should have asked for help no matter how loudly she had to shout.

Most importantly I've learned My own lesson, when she's in scene with someone else, not to be occupied elsewhere so that I'm able to check in.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 11:14:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: Homestead

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

This is indeed the biggest threat, isn't it - to allow a cancerous thought to enter, The desctruction from there can be great if not immediately handled.

Better that she realize her self interests enough to dismiss the thought as invalid immediately. Owners cannot monitor everything that enters a servant's mind on a continual basis.

No, we cannot possibly do that, but it is wise to guide and teach as much as it is within our power. While I feel quite secure allowing any of my girls to interact with and overcome those who possess adverse philosophy, that is not to say I would have them swimming in it constantly. Intellectual sparring is one thing, exposure to those who knowingly and cunningly attempt to subvert is quite another.

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RE: What kinds of circumstances make you protective of ... - 8/2/2006 1:14:36 PM

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Thanks to everyone who answered this thread. It was so encouraging to read; a breath of fresh air and such a change (for me) from reading about "things Dominants and Masters do wrong". Obviously, they do a lot of things right, as reading this thread proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt.

- Susan

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