MrRodgers
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“Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain, and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do”
I have honestly forgotten whose quote I use here...some Greek philosopher from BCE, I think. It will be a future sigline. I like it...pretty much says it all for me and certainly at least as far my lifestyle aspiratons are conerned.
Don't we approach the question here in a most clinical fashion ? Do we break down each possibility as lecture and then 'say...see, here are all the possibilities ?' Here is where a hedonist can add to our possibilities. It starts with the pleasure with or without sex. It is a sexual pleasure for me to bind you...having you at my disposal for anything...sexual being the most immediate. I have her as they have said for decades...'bound to please.' Here is a breakdown...see if this doesn't strike a cord. Also, don't we discount sex and BDSM skills here ? Isn't it as important what the pleasure seeker and the sadist does in the practice of our sexual and BDSM debacheries as which 'vehicle' is used for our pleasures. (pleasure comes from the word please)
It pleases me to bind you and have you at my sexual and sadistic disposal.
It is a pleasure when you bind me and have me at your sexual and sadistic disposal.
It pleases me to sexually plunder you while bound.
It is a pleasure to be sexually plundered by you while bound.
It pleases me to hit you.
It is a pleasure when you hit me.
It pleases me to whip you.
It is a pleasure when you whip me.
...and so on...
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RE: Relationship between BDSM and sex - 
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