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Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 9:21:05 AM   
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I have been wondering how many people in BDSM feel what they do is wrong due to the notion they like to give/get intense painful stimulation. For me personally it's like running a marathon, boxing, wrestling, or martial arts. In all these things you force your body into extremely uncomfortable growth. Society's view that intensity is OK and mentally healthy in those ventures & our extreme play is sick & twisted is just plain unfair in my mind.
Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 9:31:39 AM   
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 9:40:44 AM   
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 9:41:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you were to take those same boxer, wrestlers and martial arts athletes and put them in sexual positions, they would also be frowned upon. It all amounts to what society feels is acceptable sexual behavior. Screw the roses, give me the thorns. The day that society dictates how I can and do have sex is the day that I move to my own private island with my submissive. Hmm...may be one of the reasons I do live in the middle of nowhere and I don't neighbor <s>

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 10:49:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		it is not so much at bdsm is so bad, but it has not become an acceptable sport, such as boxing, or wrestling, or any other contact sport,
people are afraid of what they dont understand
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 10:52:57 AM   
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Except the boxers, I love boxing.

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 11:04:58 AM   
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Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?



You mean like interrupting other programming to bring live coverage of a stoopid man wearing goofy leathers that reveal nothing sexual in nature, just a fool.. get on his nonsexual motorcycle and race up a ramp flinging himstoopidself and the nonsexual motorcycle over a row of sixty-nine subliminally passive nonsexual school bus objects..... and bust his stoopid ass all over the nonsexual motorcycle by landing prematurely in the wrong spot... while gravity and momentum tear himstoopidself a new nonsexual asshole?

When you're chowin' down on a big bowl of hog brains what would you rather see on the boob toob, Sex or Multilation?



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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 11:14:08 AM   
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If you were to take those same boxer, wrestlers and martial arts athletes and put them in sexual positions, they would also be frowned upon. It all amounts to what society feels is acceptable sexual behavior. Screw the roses, give me the thorns. The day that society dictates how I can and do have sex is the day that I move to my own private island with my submissive. Hmm...may be one of the reasons I do live in the middle of nowhere and I don't neighbor <s>

 
Can i share that island with ya? Hopefully it is tropical, i'll manage all your coconut trees...ah..sitting on the beach cracking coconuts all day..not such a bad way to live, eh? *grinz

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 11:15:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Hello All,
I have been wondering how many people in BDSM feel what they do is wrong due to the notion they like to give/get intense painful stimulation. For me personally it's like running a marathon, boxing, wrestling, or martial arts. In all these things you force your body into extremely uncomfortable growth. Society's view that intensity is OK and mentally healthy in those ventures & our extreme play is sick & twisted is just plain unfair in my mind.
Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
Suzanne

 
Do ya remember the big stink they made at the SuperBowl half time show with Janet Jackson's boob incident?  Sheesh!

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 11:26:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
Suzanne



Hey onestandingstill..... and all........


Yes.... it's partly the sex.

But, but, but, but..........
all cultures have norms that say some behaviours
are OK and others are not.

Cultural conditioning explains more than mere sex hangups, imho.

Have you seen the pics of Bush walking in his ranch
holding the Saudi Crown Prince's hand while they walk and talk?
In Arabia, friends and colleagues walk holding hands all the time.

Now imagine Bush and Cheney going for a walk
around the White House grounds every morning
tenderly holding hands and talking about how to cut taxes on oil companies.

Do you think the news would report the hand-holding or the tax cuts?
(except for Fox, which has a tax-fetish, eh?)

Obviously, boxing is barbarous.....
.... and not nearly as entertaining or pretty or thrilling
......... as a 1" purple spark from a violet wand to a nipple...

but that's the world we live in folks,
and besides, in most countries, they still put perverts in prison.


In the good old USA, "normals' just get a tad nauseous,
then leave us alone, more or less.

DD

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 11:57:48 AM   
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 12:08:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Hello All,
I have been wondering how many people in BDSM feel what they do is wrong due to the notion they like to give/get intense painful stimulation. For me personally it's like running a marathon, boxing, wrestling, or martial arts. In all these things you force your body into extremely uncomfortable growth. Society's view that intensity is OK and mentally healthy in those ventures & our extreme play is sick & twisted is just plain unfair in my mind.
Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
Suzanne



I think Society frowns on it as they dont know much about it or have some misguided idea of what it is.
On top of that The movie industry has promoted that BDSM  and Sex go hand in hand...for some this is true.For others its not.

I feel that the more of U/us that can educate people the more they will understand and someday it may be tolerable as is being Gay.I dont sees Gays as being accepted...its more like Society tolerates Us because We wont go away.

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 12:15:34 PM   
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it is not so much at bdsm is so bad, but it has not become an acceptable sport,

actually, I think somewhere along the way it became an unacceptable sport. In the good old days, some torturings and executions were public spectacle where you could bring along the whole family for the show. Hell, the point of having someone placed in stocks was so the public could even participate by throwing garbage at them.

Just seeing a nice public flogging in a movie like The Hunchback of Notre Dame makes me wonder how society went astray and eliminated such community activities and then replaced them with contact sports like boxing and football. They really are such poor substitutes for free public torture.

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 12:16:18 PM   
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When you're chowin' down on a big bowl of hog brains what would you rather see on the boob toob, Sex or Multilation?



I prefer both at the same time...is that so bad?


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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 12:50:03 PM   
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If you were to take those same boxer, wrestlers and martial arts athletes and put them in sexual positions, they would also be frowned upon. It all amounts to what society feels is acceptable sexual behavior. Screw the roses, give me the thorns. The day that society dictates how I can and do have sex is the day that I move to my own private island with my submissive. Hmm...may be one of the reasons I do live in the middle of nowhere and I don't neighbor <s>

 
Can i share that island with ya? Hopefully it is tropical, i'll manage all your coconut trees...ah..sitting on the beach cracking coconuts all day..not such a bad way to live, eh? *grinz

Absolutely! I would share my island with any like-minded individuals :)

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 1:09:06 PM   
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 2:54:25 PM   
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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 2:59:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Hello All,
I have been wondering how many people in BDSM feel what they do is wrong due to the notion they like to give/get intense painful stimulation. For me personally it's like running a marathon, boxing, wrestling, or martial arts. In all these things you force your body into extremely uncomfortable growth. Society's view that intensity is OK and mentally healthy in those ventures & our extreme play is sick & twisted is just plain unfair in my mind.
Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
Suzanne


because people pay to see two guys beat the crap out of each other...imagine if BDSM were a spectator sport:

"In this corner, standing 5'6", 165 pounds, sporting a flogger made of wood and leather, the undefeated World Champion, Miss Understanding. And in this corner,  standing 6'2" 275 pounds, wearing black and blue velcro trunks is shorty malone."

< Message edited by michaelGA2 -- 8/8/2006 3:00:44 PM >

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 3:13:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: onestandingstill

Hello All,
I have been wondering how many people in BDSM feel what they do is wrong due to the notion they like to give/get intense painful stimulation. For me personally it's like running a marathon, boxing, wrestling, or martial arts. In all these things you force your body into extremely uncomfortable growth. Society's view that intensity is OK and mentally healthy in those ventures & our extreme play is sick & twisted is just plain unfair in my mind.
Why do you feel society frowns so severely on S&M contact & can accept the other intense activities?
Suzanne


because people pay to see two guys beat the crap out of each other...imagine if BDSM were a spectator sport:

"In this corner, standing 5'6", 165 pounds, sporting a flogger made of wood and leather, the undefeated World Champion, Miss Understanding. And in this corner,  standing 6'2" 275 pounds, wearing black and blue velcro trunks is shorty malone."

LOL Michael!!

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RE: Why is S&M intensity so bad, but boxing OK? - 8/8/2006 3:34:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Windchimes said, "I think kinkiness had been synonymous with "perverted", and "pervert" has negative conotations. So, those perverts into whips and chains are BAD!"

I hate to tell you windchimes, but it goes much farther than that. I can tell you for a fact that even people who watch straight porn, no BDSM, are considered "perverts" by some members of American society.

America is very immature sexually. Its a sad but sorry truth. And BDSM isnt even always about sex!

Its a mixed up country in my eyes. So I just do the best I can within it, and try and teach open-mindedness for all things  to my family. Its all I can do.

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