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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/9/2006 3:48:02 PM   
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If I remember correctly from earlier, the boy is 19. I then decided it was not even worth the trouble to question.



I know, you're right. ::sigh:: I checked his profile before answering. Normally I'd just walk on by, but I think I'm in teacher mode today.


And I am in uberbitch grump mode........................prolly why I just kept walking. If Mod 11 is going to notice me I want it to be for my sparkling brown eyes not my snotty evil bitchiness.


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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/9/2006 4:03:09 PM   
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If I remember correctly from earlier, the boy is 19. I then decided it was not even worth the trouble to question.



I know, you're right. ::sigh:: I checked his profile before answering. Normally I'd just walk on by, but I think I'm in teacher mode today.


And I am in uberbitch grump mode........................prolly why I just kept walking. If Mod 11 is going to notice me I want it to be for my sparkling brown eyes not my snotty evil bitchiness.



LOL You do know that photo of you oozes uber-sexy-bitchiness? In all the right ways? You're converting half the women on here...and making more than a few of the guys consider sex changes...How DO you do that??

Hell, I'm gonna start a poll!

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/10/2006 6:00:36 PM   
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I'm continually amazed at the energy people invest into comparing themselves to someone else. Rather than focus on their shortcomings, why not spend time improving your own? Domestic service is but one of the many things you can offer the one you serve. Their perceived laziness could be supplemented by the very things you're unwilling to do.

Also, you neglected to mention one important factor in your post. The value isn't found in yours or another submissive's eyes, but in the one who's feet they kneel before. If he has a problem with their performance I'm certain they'll be informed. Best of luck to you.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/11/2006 6:49:42 PM   
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Masters,

As a slave myself i feel that i need to ask.  From seeing it for myself and from talking to other slaves online since when did being a slave start meaning to sit on one's butt?

i've been in situations with Masters that i worked my butt off for Them while the other "slaves" sat around watching TV or playing on the computer.  Maybe i'm just too old fashioned but i was trained to believe that a slave is meant to work around the house to provide her/his Owner with a house that He/She can be proud to come home to.

Or maybe it's just all these 20 somethings that think being a "slave" is just a game...being 40 something i take being a slave very seriously. 

Just  would like to know if any of You feel the way i do but from the Dominant side. 

Thank You,

slvneedsowner


Everyone in my home is going to work, bring home a paycheck. I am very clear about that from the beginning. No free rides. Everyone in my home is going to be responsible for maintaining that home. If there is anyone sitting around on their hiney goofing off it will be well earned relaxation time and all will enjoy it. Seems pretty simple to me.


I'm in complete agreement with the lovely Lady's statement of "No free rides", not now, not then, not ever. Allowing a non-productive slaves in ones House or Family is a totally weak concept to Me. I'm often contacted by young males and females that state that they are attracted to a poly-fidelity lifestyle without having any idea if what it is. I've grown more than a tad weary of replying to the ones that show some intellect, but aren't able to concieve of a poly-lifestyle that doesn't include anonymous sex or swing partys for their pleasures.
  Having a new girl or boy joining a family usually means that they'll have to acclimatize to the weather and job market before they can be really comfortably situated, still, I see no reason that they should be free of household responsibilities while doing so. A slave that spends beaucoup hours at advancing her career and worth to the corporate entity that hired them and finds themselves swamped with overtime on projects where they're compensated for the extra time does, in My opinion, earn her some task points, but those that have to pick up her slack at home tasks should be recognized for their devotion and dedication.
  Bitchin', gripin', moanin' and groanin' in My presence is adequate reason for Me to uncoil a single tail so that, I can adjust the gripesters attitude, but if their complaining is justified then, I'm required to assess the problem, address it, and eleminate the causative thorns. But, I don't have to venture beyond what, I consider a fair evaluation and remedy just because one can't accept that the other wasn't punished sufficiently, or rewarded amply enough. And I don't tolerate whinin', gritchin' and tears that are not honest.
  Providing an emotional and physical sanctuary for My property is as much their Y O B as it is My task to oversee it.Finding the necessary courses of training to promote their worth to their corp' bosses is another thing that's not an elective. Each of them needs to further their education and some have told Me that, I'm much like a vampire, draining them of knowledge just because, I love having the chemical cocktails that learning new wonders brings to My gourd.
  With all of that said, I figure it's time to hush My mouth for a few... I don't tolerate slaggards or those that think that joining My House would furnish them with endless orgasmic delites, Oprah re-runs, jellied ham 'n' peas, and their meals served to them on the sofas. Neither will, I force My girls to become switches to entertain the needs of boys that are lusting for a way to cause their pee pees to spit its nasty,,, agggghhhhhhh. gaggggggsssssssssss I don't need a scientific study or survey to convience Me that boydawgs aren't capable of invoking their intellects whenever they're horney. lol
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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/11/2006 7:49:17 PM   
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Masters,

As a slave myself i feel that i need to ask.  From seeing it for myself and from talking to other slaves online since when did being a slave start meaning to sit on one's butt?

i've been in situations with Masters that i worked my butt off for Them while the other "slaves" sat around watching TV or playing on the computer.  Maybe i'm just too old fashioned but i was trained to believe that a slave is meant to work around the house to provide her/his Owner with a house that He/She can be proud to come home to.

Or maybe it's just all these 20 somethings that think being a "slave" is just a game...being 40 something i take being a slave very seriously. 

Just  would like to know if any of You feel the way i do but from the Dominant side. 

Thank You,

slvneedsowner


Just to set the record straight, at least IMO.  Being a slave means exactly what that slaves Owner decides it means. 

What one owner decides and what another may decide is probably very different.  If it is not broke, why fix it?

Seek what is best for you, but try not to decide what is best for others.

Daniel's heart.

edited to add..... In this house laziness does not exist.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/11/2006 10:09:47 PM   
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Masters,

...since when did being a slave start meaning to sit on one's butt?




Perhaps since the word "slave" itself was adopted by BDSM. The term is widely misused in the circle of deviant romance.




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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/12/2006 12:09:44 AM   
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i personally dont think age plays a factor. many slaves, including young ones, work their tails off to please their Owner, it just so happens that many of the "lazy" ones are online, having the free time to do it.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/12/2006 12:19:43 AM   
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mine has to keep the house nice and clean. if I come home and its not. she gets punished which means one of three things. 
1.) the most common that I use, I tie her up and either whip or spank her or sometimes both. day after I did that, when I came home, the house was emaculate
2.) having to clean the house with something in her ass
3.) I invite one of her friends over to pick something up or call the pizza delivery man and I force her to answer the door nude with a toy in her puss.

either way, if a master takes more time to punish his slaves, this wouldnt be a problem.

To me, these dont sound like punishments at all, they sound like something  your slave may enjoy and therefore she may act out to get your "punishments". 

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/12/2006 1:34:03 AM   
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My answer to that wouuld be the reflection of a slave is on his/her Master/Mistress for tis Their responsibility to set forth goals, tasks, duties as well as times they(tasks) should be completed and consistency of discipline each and every time so I would start asking Wwho truly is the "L'lazy" Oone indeed? ~WEFG~Respectfully Deviant~~~Qi{LH}

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/12/2006 1:38:31 AM   
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In other words look deep before Yyou leep as Mablean would strongly suggest. Not just on the screen but r/t as well what the slaves habits are and vice versa for the slave is there enough consistency going both way in tasks being demanded as well as completion on time etc just food for thought enjoy ~~~Respectfully Deviant~~~Qi{LH}

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/16/2006 4:18:14 PM   
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Hi slvneedsowner,

My slave is 20 something and she knows that laziness isn't allowed in the DSF.  One of our rules is, if you are going to be part of the DSF, you are going to contribute to the wellbeing of the family..... if you don't, then you go.

Be Well,
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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/16/2006 11:18:22 PM   
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There are all types of folks in the lifestyle. These folks may use a definition of "submissive" or "slave" that is different from your own.

But there are lazy Doms, too, and lazy vanillas.

Bottom line: people are people, and motivation/lazyness don't necessarily correlate with lifestyle labels. If you see a bunch of rude, lazy, boorish folks at a party, simply don't invite them to yours when you host one.

Your party's gonna be waaaaaay better anway!

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/17/2006 11:46:07 AM   
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I swore to myself that I wouldn't make anymore flaming posts on these boards but I just can't resist this one.

I am a "20 something slave" as you put it and I dont think this lifestyle or being a slave is a game. I take everything I do very seriously and I take being a slave seriously. Not that I dont have fun with it at times, you cant always be serious afterall. Im sure there are slaves out there that are lazy and im sure there are some out there that think all this is a game. But just because there are some dosen't mean you can blanket everyone as being that way. We are all people first and foremost and people make mistakes, some people are lazy, some arent, being a slave or a Dom/me dosent make us any different then any other group of people out there in regards to our faults. I know as a slave I clean, do the dishes, laundry etc etc for Master because He likes me to and I like to please Him. Does that mean that all slaves clean or that all slaves are servic orieanted? No, it means that is the way me and Master do it and what works for us. Whatever works for other couples works for them. Nobodys way is the right way and nobodys is the wrong way, its just their way.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/17/2006 11:51:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

If I remember correctly from earlier, the boy is 19. I then decided it was not even worth the trouble to question.



I know, you're right. ::sigh:: I checked his profile before answering. Normally I'd just walk on by, but I think I'm in teacher mode today.


And I am in uberbitch grump mode........................prolly why I just kept walking. If Mod 11 is going to notice me I want it to be for my sparkling brown eyes not my snotty evil bitchiness.



LOL You do know that photo of you oozes uber-sexy-bitchiness? In all the right ways? You're converting half the women on here...and making more than a few of the guys consider sex changes...How DO you do that??

Hell, I'm gonna start a poll!


Holy crap! So THIS is how that evil thing got started!!!


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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/17/2006 1:26:53 PM   
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You're converting half the women on here...and making more than a few of the guys consider sex changes...How DO you do that??

Hell, I'm gonna start a poll!


Holy crap! So THIS is how that evil thing got started!!!



<-- giggles evilly

Don't blame me. You're just too irresistable, LaT!

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/17/2006 2:06:27 PM   
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     If a slave exhibits lazyness then it is the Master's fault for not keeping them in line. I have found that some Masters just want a slave to be there when they get the urge but don't realize the time and work a Master needs to use in order to train a slave properly. Naturally a "slave" will try and take advantage of the situation and if the Master doesn't respnd quickly then the slave gets the upper hand. I Master has to be a confessor, confidant, guide, teacher, disciplinarian, protector and sometimes a "daddy" but he always needs to remain in total control and let the slave know it.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/19/2006 2:57:34 AM   
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Well, if a slave has finished all the chores I set her, then I think it only fair that she have a break and watch TV or play computer games.  Plus it gives her time to do her Kegel exercises.

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/19/2006 4:12:02 AM   
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that was just rude of you to speak to her in that manner, yes she is one who cleans or whatever she does for master. to say that is all she is is rude i clean and i am a dominant what are you? she is speaking not being of not wanting to be all she can be and she is doing something she is proud of i see her point some slaves like to sit around and do nothing but maybe write with funny ink and be rude while they should be being helpful in some way other then spread those legs and thinking you better because you get so whack. close those leg girl and do something to help yourself you being a whore oops now i am being rude you see i do not know if you a slave? or a bottom? or submissive? or a sit down slut? now she is working and making her master house great you see in the long run you just a fast piece or are you collard a master and i spoke with one or two they do enjoy a fast piece but the one who shows heart and spirit and thinks on her on in her mind not her muff is valued and being 20 is nothing you know nothing, now i think you rethink this desire you think your master has for you be careful they do read these oh oops you do not know this do you silly girl as we grow we are very smart and being 40 does not make one less sexy have you not seen some of these women around lol you are kidding yourself now ok this will tell me if you are all you think you are if you master comes to you defeat and tells not to talk to you in this manner then your value you see they do this for the slave they care for

now next time do be so rude lol your something you may write back with answer when you get up

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/19/2006 9:15:49 AM   
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<~~~signs up for the lazy slave position.  I was thinking it was getting far too much work taking care of Master's needs. I did not know this was an option  

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RE: When did being a slave begin to mean laziness? - 8/19/2006 8:15:23 PM   
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I find what you said abut the 20 somethings offensive....and I am not longer in that group being that I am 33.... but when I was 20 something I served a man who had no interest in me doing housework and working my butt off...he wanted me well rested as I was his one and only slave in other ways...~wink~.  We had 3 young females who lived part time in the household and 2 of them were 20 somethings and one was 19.  Each worked her butt off in the manner that the HOH ordered.  Part of my duty was to oversee the running of the domestic side of the home in delagating duties to whoever the HOH decided to do them....be it a vanilla maid / housekeeper or one of our girls.  I lived part time here, in Dallas,  in his apt and part time with him in New Orleans....and traveled with him as companion / assistant when he was traveling)..beleive me...I never just sat around twiddling my thumbs. 

There are times I fantasize about being the domestic goddess....so much so that I look for than in seeking a partner, now.

I guess the younger set can make their own generalizations about the older ones....and us in the middle.

Girlie 

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