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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 2:33:24 PM   
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Heather, yes I was talking about someone being "down" for 4-6 minutes.
This whole type of activity just sounds too dangerous to even think about doing to me.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:02:56 PM   
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Just curious but what about those people that do that deep sea diving where they hold their breath for a really long time. They must have to practice all the time and doesn't that cause a problem?

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:19:10 PM   
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How sad.

I hope it was worth it, for more intense orgasms.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:24:26 PM   
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That was my thinking.....wonder if those few seconds of ecstacy were worth dying or life in prison?  Because "normal" orgasms are just so boring.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:27:33 PM   
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That was my thinking.....wonder if those few seconds of ecstacy were worth dying or life in prison?  Because "normal" orgasms are just so boring.


I had more sympathy for the one no longer breathing.

The one in prison should serve as a warning to the foolish.

Him, I have no sympathy for-he took a risk, and he fucked up.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:33:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Littlepita

Just curious but what about those people that do that deep sea diving where they hold their breath for a really long time. They must have to practice all the time and doesn't that cause a problem?


actually, diving is dangerous. all sorts of problems, not only from oxygen deprivation, which, with proper breathing tanks is minimal, but with decompressions etc.

the only people diving while holding their breath were pearl hunters, and those guys end up more fucked up than professional boxers. sooner.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 3:57:02 PM   
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We do breath play and have been doing it for a few years now.  We know the risks and are willing to accept them.  The only thing I wanted to add is that not everyone does breath play for stronger orgasms, thats not remotely what it is about for me.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 4:13:34 PM   
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It's one of those areas that I can happily say I have never gone there.and feel no regret whatsover.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 6:56:09 PM   
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the only people diving while holding their breath were pearl hunters, and those guys end up more fucked up than professional boxers. sooner.


They're called free-divers, zeno.  Their goal is to go as deep as they possibly can on only a lungful of surface air.  They go far deeper than any pearl diver goes, and yes, they are insane.

There's enough of them out there that specialized equipment exists for them.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 7:10:28 PM   
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Damn... i really like breath play.  i've passed out more than once..and i truly do enjoy the "floating" feeling.  After reading this thread though, i may have to rethink it. 

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 7:55:50 PM   
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I've always enjoyed breathe play but i've never played to an extreme. soo as my body starts to scream for oxygen i tapp out and get air again. nothing more then a bit light headedness. You can get a similar rush from wearinga really tight coreset suring sex *S*

I admit i like the feeling of the control He has over me at that time, but i trust my partner to not take it to far also.

Think of it this way, every time a smoker takes a drag he's depriving himself of oxygen as well.

I'm not saying it's not dangerous but like everything else, there are different levers at which you can do it.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 8:06:08 PM   
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Once i passed out and he didn't even know i had (he was behind me).  i woke to having my butt pummelled.  i can see why this type of thing should be a no no.  Too bad it's so much fun, tho. 

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 8:46:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

Just goes to show that before you attempt something, you really should know all you can learn about the subject first. 
I'm a fan of breathplay.  I'm also fairly sure if I kill somebody during breathplay that I've got a pretty good shot at keeping them alive till paramedics get here, if I can't drag her back myself.  And I've been looking at those home defib units, just as a little more margin.

SSC?  Well, as long as I've got informed consent. . . . .  Others can fuss about sanity.



the problem with this kind of thinking is that, no you probably won't be able to save/resusetate your partner.  the heart attack resulting from hemoacidosis is one that is extreamly hard to pull someone out of.  something like a 20% success rate.  higher acid in the blood makes the electrical charges that regulate the heart carry differently.  your body is meant to run at a very spesific ph, and not having that means everything you know how to do in the way of cpr is reduced in value.  if not compleatly moot.

do i support your right to do this?  yes.  do i think you have an obligation to educate youself on all the risks?  yes, but i don't think you've done so.  do i think your partner deserves to know everything about what you're planning to do?  yes, and you can't claim informed concent if you yourself don't have all the info.  asside which, i think this is more a rack activity than an ssc activity.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 9:02:31 PM   
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something nobody seems to want to mention is that if that guy did

A. tried to resuscitare, called the paramedics, went to the police, explained what happened

he would have faced an involuntary manslaughter charge, because after all the smoke and mirrors, prosecution still wouldn't have risked putting him up for more and have him walk away free. which he could have negotiated to a plea bargain around a 1 year jail term, out in 6 months on good behaviour and a 5-10 year probation as a first offender. or he could have taken to trial, if he had the money, and gotten a deadlock, even an aquittal, or with a moderate judge, a very likely lenient sentence of again, a couple years, out before serving one and some probation.

instead, the idiot chose to

B. stash the corpse, wait a few days, and in general behave as dodgy as possible.

well, what do you expect ? solid jail time.

people would really benefit from understanding their legal situation.

sounds incredible ? there was, for instance, last year, in florida if memory serves, the case of the guy who cut his wife's neck with a chainsaw. he was never charged, the whole thing was ruled an accident. he was up on a stair tending a tree and he fell. she was holding the stair. but that guy never tried to hide the body.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/9/2006 10:09:10 PM   
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That makes zero sense to me.  She took the same risk.  In fact, she took a bigger risk.

Someone mentioned something about putting someone down for four minutes?  OK, that's insane.  Well, maybe not insane, but extremely reckless and unwise.

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quote:

ORIGINAL: windchymes

That was my thinking.....wonder if those few seconds of ecstacy were worth dying or life in prison?  Because "normal" orgasms are just so boring.


I had more sympathy for the one no longer breathing.

The one in prison should serve as a warning to the foolish.

Him, I have no sympathy for-he took a risk, and he fucked up.

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/10/2006 1:41:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

Just goes to show that before you attempt something, you really should know all you can learn about the subject first. 
I'm a fan of breathplay.  I'm also fairly sure if I kill somebody during breathplay that I've got a pretty good shot at keeping them alive till paramedics get here, if I can't drag her back myself.  And I've been looking at those home defib units, just as a little more margin.

Only once have I been really worried when I had a girl pass out.  From heat stroke, in a 70 degree room.  Got her breathing again, took about two hours to level her out, but  I  did give some thought to how I would explain the situation to  the nice firemen.
It sure cured me from thinking that I wanted to bring a girl to the point of passing out however.  lol

SSC?  Well, as long as I've got informed consent. . . . .  Others can fuss about sanity.


This statement concerns me as I've also read once the carbon monoxide builds to certain levels even with CPR you can run the risk of not being resussitated.
Please read more on the subject before you think it would be OK to kill someone and keep them warm till an ambualnce can come. They might get there & tell you it's too late even with a beating heart.


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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/10/2006 2:09:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

Just goes to show that before you attempt something, you really should know all you can learn about the subject first. 
I'm a fan of breathplay.  I'm also fairly sure if I kill somebody during breathplay that I've got a pretty good shot at keeping them alive till paramedics get here, if I can't drag her back myself.  And I've been looking at those home defib units, just as a little more margin.

Only once have I been really worried when I had a girl pass out.  From heat stroke, in a 70 degree room.  Got her breathing again, took about two hours to level her out, but  I  did give some thought to how I would explain the situation to  the nice firemen.
It sure cured me from thinking that I wanted to bring a girl to the point of passing out however.  lol

SSC?  Well, as long as I've got informed consent. . . . .  Others can fuss about sanity.



If you kill her how can you "keep her alive".  Killing someone is really the exact opposite of keeping them alive, isn't it?

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/10/2006 6:24:54 PM   
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Just for the record...

If this is the case that OP was describing, he was never identified as a "Dom".  An article about the case can be found here:

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD/MGArticle/RTD_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1149189894049

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/11/2006 7:06:12 AM   
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 This is the story I was discussing. The words below are from the Washingtion Post

30-Year Sentence In Slaying Of Student Evidence Sufficient, Va. Man Concedes

By Jamie Stockwell
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, August 10, 2006; B01

MATHEWS COUNTY, Va., Aug. 9 -- A Fairfax County mother was mostly composed Wednesday during a 90-minute hearing in this rural county, until the man who killed her daughter was led slowly from the courtroom in shackles. "Murderer!" she screamed.
Moments earlier, Benjamin Fawley had stood up -- his head shaking back and forth, a photograph of his two young daughters in his left hand -- and entered a plea in the murder of 17-year-old Taylor Behl, just eight days before his trial was scheduled to begin.
It has been 11 months since Janet Pelasara last saw her daughter, who was a freshman at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond. Behl's mostly naked and decomposing body was found a month after she was reported missing, buried in a shallow ravine off a winding country road.
Fawley, 39, has repeatedly said that Behl died during a consensual sex act in which he restricted her breathing. But standing in the crowded courtroom, Fawley entered an Alford plea to second-degree murder.
In doing so, Fawley did not admit his guilt but conceded that the state had enough evidence to convict him in Behl's killing. Circuit Court Judge William H. Shaw III accepted the plea and sentenced him to 30 years in prison.
The court action closed a case that garnered national headlines and was the focus of an intense manhunt last fall, a case that prosecutors said Wednesday was never about "sex or bondage or erotic asphyxiation."
Simply, "this was a case about murder," said John S. "Jack" Gill, the county's chief prosecutor.
"This was a girl going off to college with the same hopes, dreams and fears that all kids have," Gill said. "It's a tragedy she was taken in this manner."
Fawley sobbed at times during the hearing but offered no apologies. Under the terms of the agreement, 22 counts of unrelated child pornography charges filed last fall in Richmond will be dropped, each of which carried a minimum punishment of five years.
His attorneys said afterward that Fawley, a father of two young girls who live with their mother in Pennsylvania, was reluctant to enter a plea. He was "very emotional," said William E. Johnson, one of his attorneys.
"He contends that he thought highly of Taylor. He contends that he never wanted to do her harm," Johnson said. "He is very depressed. But he's resolved to his fate."
Behl, a June 2005 graduate of James Madison High School in Vienna, was just two weeks into her freshman year when she vanished. Her body was found about 75 miles east of the Richmond campus.
An autopsy determined last month that Behl's death was a homicide. But because her body was so badly decomposed, medical examiners were unable to conclude how she was killed.
Behl's mother, who attended the hearing with about 35 relatives, said afterward that she was pleased with the outcome.
"I'm happy that it's over," she said, adding that it does little to help her heal. "I don't know that I'll ever have closure. How do you have closure on losing your only daughter? I don't think there ever will be."
Fawley was romantically involved with Behl before she enrolled at VCU. He has been in jail since September, when he was arrested on unrelated pornography charges after police searched his home computers.
Within days of the discovery of Behl's remains, Fawley told investigators that he had had consensual sex with her in her car, parked near a beach in rural Mathews County, the night of Sept. 5 and that he had accidentally choked her. He told police that he had panicked after she died and dumped her body in the shallow ditch off a narrow dirt road tucked behind sheds and farmhouses.
Detectives were led to the spot by one of Fawley's ex-girlfriends, who recognized the area in a photograph Fawley posted on his Web site. An amateur photographer, he had a gallery of his digital snapshots online, and the critical image showed a portion of his ex-girlfriend's family's property.
Fawley maintained numerous Web sites dedicated to his interests in art, Gothic culture and skulls, and he had a bumper-sticker-plastered van that he decorated with dozens of license plates that he had collected over the years.
He and Behl met early last year, and the two became online friends. They posted messages to one another on their blogs. On one trip to Richmond, Fawley took photographs of a fully clothed Behl and posted them on his Web site.
Behl, too, had a vast online presence with journals and profiles posted at the popular social networking sites http://MySpace.com and http://LiveJournal.com . On her MySpace page, which she last logged into the day before she disappeared, friends continue to post messages about their memories of her.
Little of Behl's online world was mentioned in court yesterday. Instead, prosecutors said she wrote in her journal about a new boyfriend she had met in Richmond. She was eager to delve into college, they said.
And although Fawley told the police that Behl was crazy about him, she thought he was weird, prosecutors said. He later told police that he sometimes blacked out and that he remembers Behl choking before she took her last breath.
"I never like the thoughts in my head," Fawley wrote in a jailhouse letter to a friend that was read aloud Wednesday. "People are right. Something is wrong with me. All the thoughts of killing and death in my head and now it's true. I've killed someone."
© 2006 The Washington Post Company

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RE: One Dom Gone Over Breathplay - 8/11/2006 7:33:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

Just goes to show that before you attempt something, you really should know all you can learn about the subject first. 
I'm a fan of breathplay.  I'm also fairly sure if I kill somebody during breathplay that I've got a pretty good shot at keeping them alive till paramedics get here, if I can't drag her back myself.  And I've been looking at those home defib units, just as a little more margin.


Well, you better make sure your play partener isn't a DNR/DNI and get her Medical POA's number programmed into speed-dial. While you are slapping on the defib pads, just in case, why not stock some Calcium Gluconate, Epi, and Atropine in the bedside table? How are you intubation skills? Better brush up.

Really, people, Im all for the risk-aware thing but when we are slapping on defibrillator pads and ensuring patent IV access before proceeding with a scene, it seems to me we've crossed a line.

(And let me qualify this statement by saying first that I don't think my kink is the only right, reasonable, or sane kink....)

"It's ok, I know CPR and I'm pretty confident I could keep you alive until the medics get here" are not exactly words that would compel me to feel better about submitting to a particular kink.


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