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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 8:33:40 AM   
stockingluvr54


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Status: offline 		The only experience I've had is with a pro and I have nothing but praise for the woman! It was a start? They have a place......

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 8:39:51 AM   
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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 9:19:30 AM   
TeeGO


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Status: offline 		Like Michael I have never been to a Pro, and never intend to.  BUT, they have their place, and it's a very welcome place.  The good Pro's and the exist, I know a few, really do take their "job" seriously and they have a great deal of "concern" for their clients.  They want their clients to have a great experience, and guess what?  They keep coming back, and coming back, and coming back...detect a pattern?  There are three branches to the lifestyl IMO: Male Dome, Female Dom, and Pro Dom.  They are all similar, but are also very different.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 10:00:27 AM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		No Teego, not going to let you get away with that.. I am a fem dom ... professional domination is part of what I do as a fem dom ...prodomming doesn't make me some seperate beast ... this kind of diviciseness thinking when out when some quack started calling female dominants dommes ... and overnight if you say you're a dom (as in dominant/gender irrellevant) subs shriek at you for been fake and demand to see ya genitals by way of confirmation ... I am a fem dom ... pro domming is what I do ... the community/lifestyle ...need to get over it ... and to quote my catch phrase of the month... it's my cunt, get over it ... don't try to put it into a nice little presentable box, so what it is I do, dare taint what you do, by association of words and labels we all are want to quibble over .. as long as what I do as a fem dom, is ethical, respectfull that others shares these labels, and what it is you do shares similar ethics ... life in my world is all good ... and hope it will be in yours.

ps .. "I have never been to a Pro and never intend to" ... that line in itself is a topic alone lol ...

Ps... Teego, that was more a general rant, than at you personally, please take no offence, you know I luffs ya .. and I'm a little jaded with reading platitudes and people paying lip service to what it is we do ..that often happens when this particular hot spot topic beast rares it head ;)

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 11:05:41 AM   
MistressOfGa


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Michael we all have heard your whining and know how you feel about pros. 

 
If Michael wants to post a thousand times on these forums how he feels about pros, then he has that right. This comment was uncalled for and frankly just plain mean. Why is it when Michael post his opinions he is whining, yet when someone else post the same damn thing, they are only expressing their opinions? Those of us who have been here for a while do know Michaels opinions about things, but that doesnt mean that he can't continue to express them. You don't like what Michael chooses to make comments about, don't read his comments. That is what the block button is for.
My apologies to the OP for posting off-topic.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 11:19:14 AM   
TeeGO


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

Ps... Teego, that was more a general rant, than at you personally, please take no offence, you know I luffs ya ..


None taken.  I'm glad you defended your turf so well.  Nothing really fits into a box, no matter how hard we try sometimes.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 11:45:55 AM   
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Yes, the stereotypical money grubbers do exist, but it is unfair to put all pro dommes in a category, just because of a couple individuals.


  The more perplexing question for me is.....why are only certain guys contacted by these women who are gold diggers? There's absolutely no way any lady here could tell me that they could read a guys profile {based on generalities} and then determine his solvency from it.....



 - R


< Message edited by UtopianRanger -- 8/10/2006 11:46:57 AM >

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 2:07:07 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I agree with you michael, the Pro Domme isn't in control she's just doing what she gets paid to do and the sub is a customer who tells her what he wants/desires. He isn't being forced into it, its something he wants to do and she is just doing a job.

~Lashra


Not this Dominatrix...I frankly get sick of being lumped into some catagory that implies I am a money sucking slug.I have the barter system also,not everyone has money but I feel they should still be able to try it once.
I take My "job" as Pro as seriously as I take My volunteer work at the library.
I will say again that while they(submissives) tell Me what they like doesnt mean they get it.
Sometimes they never get it...but yet they come back.I'm sure in hopes that someday they will.

I find that by doing what I want I get more that come back for a 2nd session.The ones I have catered to dont come back. They may want a certain scene but they want the CONTROL to be with the Domme.Anyone who really wants to Top from the bottom....doesnt do well here.I make them leave.Just becasue they paid doesnt mean they get to be disrespectful.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 2:19:14 PM   
MistressSassy66


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Status: offline 		I have to admit that sometimes its kind of nice to have someone else do all the work,thinking up all the ideas.Some days I am just soooo tired its refreshing to not have to think...

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 5:18:39 PM   
MissAbby


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ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

FACT: If there was not a demand for them, there would not BE so many pro Domme's. 

So there are pro Domme's on Collarme.  Who the hell cares???  I don't see why anyone not interested in a pro Domme can't just NOT contact them,


Like you, I think there is a great demand for pros and they provide a needed service to the BDSM community. 

However, from reading the threads it seems that some Dommes are misleading about their Pro status.  I don't know this personally as I don't seek out Domme profiles, but it has been mentioned in several threads by submissive men. 

http://www.collarchat.com/m_443408/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#446735
Mistress' and tributes...

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ORIGINAL:  chgosubmale

I don't personally have a problem with a domme wanting tribute. There are two areas where I have problems:

a) Dommes who don't mention anything about tribute in their profiles, but then start asking for money when you contact them. There are many people on this forum who are professionals who do not disclose that up front in their profiles.


http://www.collarchat.com/m_91521/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#98776
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ORIGINAL:  JDESPO

Tribute?
Hello all. This is okay, in my opinion, if the Mistress or Master is Professional and providing a service.
 
BUT, I believe it is pretty lame for a domme to demand such claiming that they are NOT Pro and they are just into financial domination...or its the only way for them to weed out the fakes..Give me a break! 


The situation of contacting Dommes who profess not to be Pros and then being asked for tribute has got to be frustrating.  To Me, these are legitimate complaints.    

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/10/2006 5:36:30 PM   
MistressSassy66


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quote:

ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger


The more perplexing question for me is.....why are only certain guys contacted by these women who are gold diggers? There's absolutely no way any lady here could tell me that they could read a guys profile {based on generalities} and then determine his solvency from it.....



- R




I do not for lack of a better word "solicite" submissives.
I never make first contact...ever.

If someone writes I reply with either a yes and heres what you do next or I reply,no thank you.

I will admit I dont look at profiles except the one that comes with a letter ,says where they live,if they live within the radius,I chat with them.I prefer to chat IM
or on the phone to get to know someone rather than read a profile.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 4:58:47 AM   
WhiteRadiance


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Status: offline 		MoGa:  With all due respect, I have as much right to say something as Michael does.  And you are correct, he has a right to say what he wants.
It is never my intention to hurt feelings, and I apologize if I have done so.  I do think highly of the ladies here.  I even like Michael.. just wish he'd find another soapbox...

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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Michael we all have heard your whining and know how you feel about pros. 

 
If Michael wants to post a thousand times on these forums how he feels about pros, then he has that right. This comment was uncalled for and frankly just plain mean. Why is it when Michael post his opinions he is whining, yet when someone else post the same damn thing, they are only expressing their opinions? Those of us who have been here for a while do know Michaels opinions about things, but that doesnt mean that he can't continue to express them. You don't like what Michael chooses to make comments about, don't read his comments. That is what the block button is for.
My apologies to the OP for posting off-topic.


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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 5:11:23 AM   
michaelGA2


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Status: offline 		but i like my soapbox (polishes it up nice and clean). bought it at Wally World for $5.99. ain't it purty...LOL

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 7:24:05 AM   
talltxsub


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyMorgynn

FACT: If there was not a demand for them, there would not BE so many pro Domme's. 

So there are pro Domme's on Collarme.  Who the hell cares???  I don't see why anyone not interested in a pro Domme can't just NOT contact them, instead of having to come over here on the forums and keep whining about the how many pro Dommes there are.  Like Lashra said, nobody is forcing anyone to connect with the pro's.  There are FAR more non-pro Domme's on here anyway, so what's the fuss about?


The problem is not with the ones who are up front about it.  What is frustrating to me is the ones who wait until you've talked to them for hours to say "Oh, and by the way, I need you to send me . . . . . before we talk any more."

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 8:12:41 AM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		talltxsub .... ask them upfront ...

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 8:33:49 AM   
LadyTantalize


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Just as doctors and lawyers specialize in specific fields, so do many ProDommes. (Disclaimer: i.e. many, some, not all - some are not real, not ethical and not sincere - there are bad elements in all walks of professions and lifestyles!)   In as such, they offer a certain activity or fetish and do NOT engage in acts they do not enjoy or do not know.  Would you go to a Proctologist for an eye exam, no.  Would you demand a ProDommes that lists medical play as a "no" on her website to give you just that -- well, some fool might but I bet she would either ignore the fool and tell him where to get off.

I can assure you that those who come to me, come for a service and a service I do provide but ONLY on MY TERMS.  I do cater to their needs a bit in merely providing what they enjoy, but ONLY and ONLY if those particular needs happen to be also what I enjoy.

They tell me what they enjoy, I incorporate their needs into a session stimulating for us both and then they do what I tell them to do.

Another assurance, when in a session, I am in total control as are many other reputable, experienced and truly Dominant Woman who enjoy their businesses as Dominatrixes.

(shakes my head at how some folks spout judgement about ProDomme'ing but in reality know very little about actual sessioning and Professional Domination)

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra

I agree with you michael, the Pro Domme isn't in control she's just doing what she gets paid to do and the sub is a customer who tells her what he wants/desires. He isn't being forced into it, its something he wants to do and she is just doing a job.

~Lashra


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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 9:46:19 AM   
Oumae


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Status: offline 		OMG!  I'm not a ProDomme and I take a subs likes, wants, needs etc into consideration... does that make me someone being topped from the bottom or less in control??   I don't think so.  I am a caring person who finds a fulfilled and happy sub serves much better.  It is done on my terms which is what matters to me.

We all have  our ways and once the people involved are happy with and consent to the arrangement I'm for live and let live.

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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 9:54:39 AM   
LadyTantalize


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ORIGINAL: Oumae

OMG!  I'm not a ProDomme and I take a subs likes, wants, needs etc into consideration... does that make me someone being topped from the bottom or less in control??   I don't think so.  I am a caring person who finds a fulfilled and happy sub serves much better.  It is done on my terms which is what matters to me.

We all have  our ways and once the people involved are happy with and consent to the arrangement I'm for live and let live.

Oumae


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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 10:42:16 AM   
MistressLorelei


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ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

thanks...i still say that it's topping from the bottom and the "ProDomme" is really the submissive here since they require money before they will do anything and then it's what the sub wants. just another opinion here

I'm not so sure that the Top is the one who is doing as they are told, thus being the one being 'Topped' by the paying submissive.  The ProDomme.. says, 'sure, I will give you what you need... as long as you do as  you  are told and pay me'.

Pro or not Pro...  I don't really care, but it does get quite pointless when thread after thread people keep putting it down.  Other people paying other people for kink has no effect on the well-being of those not paying..  Those who don't want to pay don't have to.


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RE: Is It Just Me? - 8/11/2006 11:03:34 AM   
LadyTantalize


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Status: offline 		Actually that soapbox is quite vile and is also made of cards making is capable of folding upon the slightest breeze!

I also refer to....
http://www.collarchat.com/m_529504/mpage_3/tm.htm

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