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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/16/2006 4:38:18 AM

Focus50

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ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa

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I'd just like to add he's acting like an insecure, immature arse!

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he's very insecure and doesn't really have your best interest at heart (just my opinion).

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He's an unpleasable ass.

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He believes that some foolish, self serving typing style will remind you of your submissiveness. He knows this is detrimental to you.
IMO, he is an idiot.

This is for all of those who have called her Master names and generally cut him down for asking HIS slave to do something that is important to HIM. How would you like it if you asked your slave to come here and to seek alternatives to a problem that you had, and came back to find that some dominants have called you names and critisized you for what you wanted your slave to do? This is just plain wrong in my opinon. YOU have NO right to call her Master names, put him down or otherwise demean him to her on these boards. Yes, you can argue that you have opinions and that you have the right to express those, but God forbid you send your slave here to seek advice and have others cut you to shit for her/him following your orders.

God, I hate this place sometimes.

News Flash! This is a public discussion board, not a support group for the disaffected or those who generally seek validation!

You may not like or agree with the answers posted, which is your right, but it's highly immature to be "shooting messengers" just because you didn't like the message! And since it's also the most likely source of the problem "simplygrl" is confronted with, I'll just pencil you as one who only appreciates the truth on the rare occasions when it's flattering or palatable....

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/16/2006 11:09:33 AM

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I'll just pencil you as one who only appreciates the truth on the rare occasions when it's flattering or palatable....

lol you may pencil me in as any type of person you want to, but if you are doing it based on my one message that called attention to your behavior, then what makes you any better than me? I have always enjoyed your posts Focus, my comments were not a personal attack against you, it was simply to say that I dont think that you would like to find yourself being called names if you sent your slave to seek advice on these boards.
In any case, I'll just pencil you in as a Master who wouldnt mind your submissive being told that you are an asshole.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/16/2006 12:24:55 PM

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Heres another newsflash. If he is to LAZY to solve what he thinks is a problem, especially when his problem causes him to look like a self serving ass, he should expect to get skewered. Personally if I can't handle whatever issues or problems I may have with my girl, then I don't need to have one. Sending her here to ask for advice, I would just as soon cut my own throat.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/16/2006 1:03:51 PM

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I think its ludicrous that your Master would make this into a problem in your life that needs solving. This would appear to be one of those cases where a dominant is perhaps getting carried away with himself. Frankly I would re-assess my commitment to a person who would be so unreasonable. Of course this is just my opinion, and Im really nobody.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 3:36:52 AM

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lol you may pencil me in as any type of person you want to, but if you are doing it based on my one message that called attention to your behavior, then what makes you any better than me? I have always enjoyed your posts Focus, my comments were not a personal attack against you, it was simply to say that I dont think that you would like to find yourself being called names if you sent your slave to seek advice on these boards.
In any case, I'll just pencil you in as a Master who wouldnt mind your submissive being told that you are an asshole.

You'd have me "pencilled in" correctly (indeed, I'd declare myself an Arse with a capital 'A') if ever my self-esteem were so low as to put a dyslexic slave through such a meaningless obstacle course just to make me feel good about myself!

In the majority of sporting events, the most "skilled" players are (apparently) those sniping loudly from the sidelines. And so it is here.... You seem clever enough; care to offer your own words of wisdom to the OP or is "barracking from the bleachers" all you've got?

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 7:00:51 AM

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How would you like it if you asked your slave to come here and to seek alternatives to a problem that you had

I wouldn't ask a slave or sub of mine to do that. If we have a problem, it is up to me to come up with a solution, that, to my way of thinking, is part and parcel of being the dominant in the relationship.

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YOU have NO right to call her Master names, put him down or otherwise demean him to her on these boards.

Ah but I do, my dear, I do. I have every right to say I think somebody is a jerk, just as I have every right to say that somebody is a real gem.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 10:02:19 AM

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In the majority of sporting events, the most "skilled" players are (apparently) those sniping loudly from the sidelines. And so it is here.... You seem clever enough; care to offer your own words of wisdom to the OP or is "barracking from the bleachers" all you've got?

lol I love that term "Barracking from the bleachers". Very cute. I think that she has had some excellent advice to her questions. I happen to agree with the suggestion that she change her font color when she types to her Master. For the record, I don't agree with what he has asked her to do, but I don't feel that telling her that her Master is wrong in anything that he asks her to do, is right.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 6:33:15 PM

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I'm the one who called the OPs Master an idiot.
MoGa, You know I have all the respect for you in the world and I see your side of the arguement, but I stand behind my words. By the OP's own posts, she has tried to find ways that she could show him she " feels" her submissiveness without jeopardizing her carreer. They have not suited him so far. She has made it clear that she has a learning disability and that she has worked hard to overcome it and achieved her carrer goals despite her
* handicap*. She has explained that she could be risking her career/reputation with his request. He seems to have not a care for her career, nor her achievements. < IMO>
I looked at the situation form a personal perspective. I have a medical problem that interferes with my blood clotting time, which puts limitations on some types of play. I also broke my arm, quite severely in December and have permanantly lost some range of motion in that arm, which will restrict some bondage play that I have enjoyed in the past. I am currently single, uncollared, unowned. If my next Master is aware of my situation at the onset of our relationship and then instructs me to find a way to improve my clotting time or to figure out a way to make my arm stretch further than it does, I say he is an idiot and I walk away. I guess I just find it odd that some people see a learning disabilty differently from a physical handicap or physical limitation. No Dominat I have met would ever risk their submissives health in the name of " making her feel more submissive", yet somehow this learning disabilty is being seen as something that the Dominant can use to manipulate her into something that may be detrimental to her career and her well being. It is no different, IMO, than a physical handicap or restriction.
For the record, I did e mail the OP and explain my POV and that the font change or color change is a good idea. But I also feel it is his issue not hers. It pisses me off when some one uses ones own weakness to gain their own way, and IMO this is exactly what he is doing.

I suspect this Master is not a complete idiot, as the OP clearly has deep affection and respect for him, but on this one subject, I believe he is behaving like and idiot.

mbmbn

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 8:23:26 PM

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well said maybemaybenot!!! A dominant would be lucky to have a well spoken sub like you.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 9:48:38 PM

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Mbmbn,
I understand what you are saying. I agree that her Master is asking to much, but, it is his choice to do that, and it is her choice to follow his orders. None of us on these boards know the whole truth of things being said, we get one side and run with it. Even if her Master is doing things that you or I don't agree with and we may find it silly or foolish, it is not our place to tell her that he is wrong. It is not up to us to enlighten this girl as to whether her Master is anything other than what she believes him to be. That is what I am saying. Yes, of course ya'll can say anything you want to here on these boards, but IMO, I think it shows total lack of respect to her and to her Master, when you tell her that she is owned by "an idiot". <Hugs to you mbmbn> Your suggestions about the color change is an excellent one. I hope it helps the OP.

My apologies to the OP for hi-jacking this thread.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 10:01:31 PM

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There are plenty of ways to get across an idea without name calling.. Personally I try very hard not to lower myself to that because I think it reveals more about me then about the person I am upset with. It shows that I cannot control my mouth, my emotions, nor my judgmentalness. I have called people names, I probably will in the future, I am not purporting perfection, because I am far from it... It is just my opinion that people who can only express themselves through this crude mechanism are showing a lack of communication skills, and in this case, empathy for the young lady asking us for advice. It would make me cringe to read people talk about MY Dom this way, and I promise you, I would not be as polite as she has been to the rest of you..

We are making all sorts of assumptions about people we do not know.. I do it too, so I ain't judging the rest of you, but this is my opinion of what I have seen on this thread... some of you could have done better, that you probably do not care about that is your choice, but that is MY opinion.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 10:43:15 PM

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MoGa and julia:

If you are familiar with my posts they rarely are disrespectful, nor do I name call. Sometimes things just hit a raw nerve and things get blurted out. As I said I e mailed the OP, prior to either of your posts, and one of my points was that I respected her methods, I just don't subscribe to them. Hopefully she knows I was not intentionally being cruel.
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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/17/2006 10:50:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

MoGa and julia:

If you are familiar with my posts they rarely are disrespectful, nor do I name call. Sometimes things just hit a raw nerve and things get blurted out. As I said I e mailed the OP, prior to either of your posts, and one of my points was that I respected her methods, I just don't subscribe to them. Hopefully she knows I was not intentionally being cruel.
mbmbn

mbmn,
I didn't believe for one second that anyone meant to be cruel by their statements. I have always enjoyed your posts and never thought that you would say anything to hurt anyone on purpose :)

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 1:12:51 AM

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Hopefully she knows I was not intentionally being cruel.

For several reasons, I've not replied to many of the posts--or have ignored the parts of comments that have been ...negative? Towards my Sir. I do not wish to cause drama...and I feel that arguing with others when they are not necessarily knowledgable about all specifics (though I have done my best to give all necessary information)...is pointless. We all have oppinions; the cool part is that we get to listen to only those that we feel we ought to. In this case, I appreciate all suggestions, but have been ignoring the other bits. :)

I know you don't intend to be cruel, or even insulting really. I've taken your comments to mean something more like "this behavior makes [someone] look like an idiot" rather than a person being an idiot.

In any event, thank you (to all!) that have responded. I welcome further suggestions, and of course, discussion as anyone feels like replying. :)

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 2:10:27 AM

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May I suggest that you help him see the world through your eyes. Ask him if you could please show him what it feels like to be dyslexic. If he agrees, sit down with him, with a piece of paper and pen, and watch the movie "Man on Fire." As they go through the time sequences, ask him to write down, as he sees it, what's happening in the pictures. As he realizes he can't do it because things are moving too fast, explain to him that that's what you live with on a daily basis. And what he's asking is really not possible.

Also... get him the book "The Gift of Dyslexia." It's an easy read and very informative. It's also a positive approach to dyslexia. It should help him understand what you're up against so that he can begin to ask more realistic things of you.

Explain to him that dyslexia has, at its roots, the fact that it's only a perceived disability by people who have normal brain function because typically, dyslexics' brains operate at a speed about 4 times faster than those of us who don't have dyslexia. The problem is that it (your brain) operates so fast that words, etc can't be written down fast enough to keep up with what's happening inside the brain. Connecting symbols such as letters to the pictures in your brain is time consuming and in terms of brain function, not desire, rather trivial.

Perhaps, if he can understand how your brain function sees letters connected to sounds, combined to make words as trival (it's biological, not intentional), then perhaps you can help him to see that words on a screen as opposed to actual action and intent is also trivial - and no real indication of respect.

You and I and everyone else knows that you can go on day and night with all the "Sir"s in the world and never mean one iota of respect or caring... or you can be informative in your posts and show that level of respect and caring where it counts - in your interactions, face to face with him.

And just out of curiousity, wouldn't a signature at the beginning or end of your posts to him, conveying your feelings for him be good enough? After all, you wouldn't use that with anyone else but him. Depending on your relationship, it could be as simple as "I love you Sir" or ""yours to serve" or whatever. I'm not of the mindset that believes that somehow, changing your mode of speak from first person to third person somehow denotes respect, but then, that's just me.

juliet

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 2:27:47 AM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

You'd have me "pencilled in" correctly (indeed, I'd declare myself an Arse with a capital 'A') if ever my self-esteem were so low as to put a dyslexic slave through such a meaningless obstacle course just to make me feel good about myself!

In the majority of sporting events, the most "skilled" players are (apparently) those sniping loudly from the sidelines. And so it is here.... You seem clever enough; care to offer your own words of wisdom to the OP or is "barracking from the bleachers" all you've got?

Focus.

Many MANY people, dominant, submissive and vanilla do not understand dyslexia, so rather than their demands coming from a place of being insecure, etc, they just might come from a place of not understanding of the disability.

It's easy to see when someone's physically disabled to the point of not being able to walk. No one is going to demand that they do so. It's not so easy to see or understand the whole concept behind dyslexia. So, rather than call names, it's much more beneficial to all involved to help that person to understand the disability and the limits it puts on the people it affects.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 3:10:57 AM

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Your post on respect while typing , was very informative, and eye opening. I respond, and agree with the idea of typing in a way; to make it personal, and pridefilled. Not the mundane, copied ways of alot of us; utilize in our communications. Some, don't even understand third person speaking;let alone dyslexia. . . very worthy read . . . thank you .

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 4:35:09 AM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

You'd have me "pencilled in" correctly (indeed, I'd declare myself an Arse with a capital 'A') if ever my self-esteem were so low as to put a dyslexic slave through such a meaningless obstacle course just to make me feel good about myself!

In the majority of sporting events, the most "skilled" players are (apparently) those sniping loudly from the sidelines. And so it is here.... You seem clever enough; care to offer your own words of wisdom to the OP or is "barracking from the bleachers" all you've got?

Focus.

Many MANY people, dominant, submissive and vanilla do not understand dyslexia, so rather than their demands coming from a place of being insecure, etc, they just might come from a place of not understanding of the disability.

Actually, a working knowledge of dyslexia is not necessary for the post you've chosen to quote because I'd say the exact same thing *minus* the word "dyslexic"!

But I do have something neither you, the OP nor several others in this thread can ever have - a working knowledge of how a male AND Dominant thinks and processes information. Is it wrong to presume the reason the OP has chosen to pose her question in "Ask a Master" is to get some perspective from *male Doms*? You know, someone who might understand her own master's reasoning and thought processes? And this male Dom found the fault or flaw easy to identify - immaturity.... Now you may view it as name-calling or insults etc, even the OP's done that, but it doesn't change the validity of the message!

Right or wrong, my first reading of the OP told me her master is probably around her own age (*young*) as it shows in this particular demand of his girl. I offered my own suggestion to her specific request, and there was an even better idea re font colour. And I added what I firmly believe is the root core of her problem - *his* insecurity and immaturity.

It's wonderful being Dom and Master; I get to jump my girl through any hoop I like and I firmly claim the right to do just that! More, I get to reward or discipline her for her performance because that's what property ownership entitles.... But for all that, everything I have *my* girl do has a purpose - which I may or may not disclose to her. Setting her up to fail is taboo! Making her miserable because i can is also my right - one which I expressly aim to avoid, but it's still *MY* right.

But having power is not the same as managing it responsibly, sensibly or maturely. Having a loaded gun doesn't empower *any* master the right to shoot his slave with it - just because he can.... Being her master obligates him responsibilities for her welfare and having that power also implies he'll use it responsibly and maturely.

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It's easy to see when someone's physically disabled to the point of not being able to walk. No one is going to demand that they do so. It's not so easy to see or understand the whole concept behind dyslexia. So, rather than call names, it's much more beneficial to all involved to help that person to understand the disability and the limits it puts on the people it affects.

juliet

This IS strange, juliet, either you're implying I called 'simplygrl' names or you're replying to my post as though her master has started this thread because I'm assuming simplygrl does understand her own disability rather well....

Crikey it's hard to find a Forum to post from my own Dom/male perspective! I've never posted in "Ask a submissive" yet almost everytime someone has an issue with my opinions or is in a mood for lecturing, it's a female in 'Ask a Master'! It's almost as though we process and rationalise things differently....

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 5:01:44 AM

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if nothing else, simplygrl *smiles* ... you are to be complimented on your own actions and reactions .... online can be a wonderful way of gaining knolwdge and discussing with others .... but it can also very easily be misinterpreted ... or become emotional .. but you have shown a delightful poise

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 6:09:59 AM

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But I do have something neither you, the OP nor several others in this thread can ever have - a working knowledge of how a male AND Dominant thinks and processes information.

Actually, you have a working knowledge of how you as a male dominant would think and process information. I have a working knowledge of how many people tend to perceive dyslexia and the successful techniques I've used to educate them to be more aware of and cognizant of the limitations of the disability. I also have the word of another dominant who happens to be male WITH a working knowledge of dyslexia - both personally and professionally - that accusing people of being immature when there is no knowledge of whether the person they're accusing even understands the situation is grandstanding.

By his word, and by mine - lowly that I may be - educating the dominant who might not be aware is an excellent option and done correctly, not at all disrespectful. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a mere submissive who happens to have a Master's Degree in Special Education, works daily to assist those with dyslexia and a myriad of other disabilities to reach their full potential, and educates staff and parents as well. I happen to be owned by a Master who is in the same field I am, with even more credentials regarding this than I do, who additionally, has a wealth of personal experience dealing with dyslexia to boot. He also happens to have more than a few years under his belt as a Master as well, just in case you want to play the "I am male and have more experience than anyone else" card.

There's no need to knee jerk just because someone's come up with a plausible idea for a possible solution (or at least the beginnings of one) beyond calling someone's Master "immature." You may presume the OP's Master is being immature... just as I may presume he needs more knowledge to be able to operate from a position of understanding. You've made your comments.. I made mine. I don't happen to agree with yours. Oh yes, I also don't hold the belief that dominants are god-like creatures never to be contradicted...bad submissive that I am.

In fact, I believe that saying someone's Master is immature when they are attempting to find a reasonable solution is decidedly unproductive.

In my admittedly unaware position as a mere submissive, I also make the assumption that a dominant does his best to work from a position of knowledge, and have done my best to present a way for this to happen if it's needed. Perhaps you'd prefer to contest my assumption?

Or is your real beef the fact that someone other than a dominant has provided this suggestion in this forum?

juliet

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