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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 7:33:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

MoGa and julia:

If you are familiar with my posts they rarely are disrespectful, nor do I name call. Sometimes things just hit a raw nerve and things get blurted out. As I said I e mailed the OP, prior to either of your posts, and one of my points was that I respected her methods, I just don't subscribe to them. Hopefully she knows I was not intentionally being cruel.
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I did not think it was, and I hope you do not feel singled out, many people said these things on this thread, and I have said worse before. It wasn't directed at you, and you are right, you are extremely respectful person and I enjoy your post

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 8:11:44 AM

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As a dyslexic, I can understand your difficulty. I also know how difficult it will be to seperate your letter writing to your Master from your professional writing. It really is more a habit forming act more than anything.

If he is really, really set on the cap presentation, then the only thing I can suggest, is practising and sticking to the Cap thang, and the rest of your professional work is put through a spell checker and re checked, remembering that this is going to take you twice the amount of time to complete your work. Personally I do not think this is a good idea.

Have you really sat down and discussed dyslexia with him? Does he understand there are different levels and types? I am not going to knock him, as I do not know him, but the whole Cap / slash thing is difficult enough for people who do not have any kind of word blindness, let alone someone like yourself. And if it is interfering with your professional life, he (hopefully) will take that into consideration.

How are you with art? Maybe you can design a specific boarder in your writings... or some sort of sign - off that seperates your writings to him, from others? ( Similar to suggested by Passion ) Maybe a particular photograph, or change them regularly? Altering the colour of the font or page is another idea.

With all due respect you your dominant, this isn't so much about training a response - but more on gaining a further understanding about dyslexia.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 2:01:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I hope you do not feel singled out,

Nope, I don't feel singled out at all. It was just a timing thing in our mutual posts and I wanted to respond to both you and MoGa.

<Hugs to you both>

To the OP:
I am glad you are not offended, as I did not mean to do that.
I have loved alot of idiots in my time, and I have been the idiot in my time and the word doesn't have the same huge negative conotation when I speak it as when I wrote it. That is one problem with the written word, it can be harsher than if one heard the tone and inflection.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 4:42:17 PM

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Don't call others Sir then.

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Side note...noted? :) If only that would be satisfactory...haha. But he does want something to distinguish my treatment of him vs. others...

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/18/2006 11:32:22 PM

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Don't call others Sir then

I don't. Thanks for your suggestion, however.

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/19/2006 2:36:26 AM

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But I do have something neither you, the OP nor several others in this thread can ever have - a working knowledge of how a male AND Dominant thinks and processes information.

Actually, you have a working knowledge of how you as a male dominant would think and process information.

Ummm, that's what I said (in your quote), actually.... And all the following is in reply to that same post of mine??

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I have a working knowledge of how many people tend to perceive dyslexia and the successful techniques I've used to educate them to be more aware of and cognizant of the limitations of the disability. I also have the word of another dominant who happens to be male WITH a working knowledge of dyslexia - both personally and professionally - that accusing people of being immature when there is no knowledge of whether the person they're accusing even understands the situation is grandstanding.

By his word, and by mine - lowly that I may be - educating the dominant who might not be aware is an excellent option and done correctly, not at all disrespectful. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a mere submissive who happens to have a Master's Degree in Special Education, works daily to assist those with dyslexia and a myriad of other disabilities to reach their full potential, and educates staff and parents as well. I happen to be owned by a Master who is in the same field I am, with even more credentials regarding this than I do, who additionally, has a wealth of personal experience dealing with dyslexia to boot. He also happens to have more than a few years under his belt as a Master as well, just in case you want to play the "I am male and have more experience than anyone else" card.

And still I'm not disputing the limitations of dyslexia - no matter how padded your CV or support group.

Of course there's evidence of him acting immaturely and I highlighted it on Page 1. She's doing her best despite the problems caused by dyslexia and quote: "This, however, is not enough for him". If my girl was dyslexic, I'd proavtively find ways to ease her path, NOT put more hurdles in front of her. He's demonstrating immaturity (or selfishness; or ignorance) at the expense of his girl.

Now, if I were grandstanding, I'd be spouting about my qualifications, experiences and influential dom friends re dyslexia....

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There's no need to knee jerk just because someone's come up with a plausible idea for a possible solution (or at least the beginnings of one) beyond calling someone's Master "immature." You may presume the OP's Master is being immature... just as I may presume he needs more knowledge to be able to operate from a position of understanding. You've made your comments.. I made mine. I don't happen to agree with yours.

So if I said he was ignorant instead of immature we'd be in agreeance? Assuming, that is, you'd actually say the (insulting) word you just defined.... And it's not equally insulting when I also called him insecure - or that one's ok because you did, too?

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In my admittedly unaware position as a mere submissive, I also make the assumption that a dominant does his best to work from a position of knowledge, and have done my best to present a way for this to happen if it's needed. Perhaps you'd prefer to contest my assumption?

Of course I don't wish to contest your assumption, I agree wholeheartedly! He needs to fix that, to understand his slave's difficulty! So I'll give a little ground here; maybe I should've said "ignorant" instead of immature.... Or is that also a hot-button word for you?

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Or is your real beef the fact that someone other than a dominant has provided this suggestion in this forum?

Beef? Me? *You* took exemption to *my* post, remember? Those who refuse to turn the other cheek or at least invoke polite ignorance are the ones with a beef?

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lowly that I may be

But hey, what do I know?

I'm just a mere submissive

In my admittedly unaware position as a mere submissive

Oh yes, I also don't hold the belief that dominants are god-like creatures never to be
contradicted...bad submissive that I am.

I may be some knuckle-dragger in your academically elitist World but I can't believe even a genuine Neanderthal would buy all this sarcastic, self-effacing, wounded dove drivel.

Does any dominant who posts an opinion you disagree with get ridiculed as being "god-like creatures never to be contradicted" or may I presume to be the only deity in town?

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/19/2006 2:43:58 AM

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

Of course there's evidence of him acting immaturely and I highlighted it on Page 1.

So, again, are there actually any suggestions you'd be able to offer to the OP? Or is simply continuing to insult her Master your goal?

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RE: Showing respect while typing? - 8/19/2006 7:24:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

So, again, are there actually any suggestions you'd be able to offer to the OP? Or is simply continuing to insult her Master your goal?

juliet

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Focus: Another thought as a compromise.... Again, I don't know how difficult this is for a dyslexic but what about limiting your written communications to the use of just one specific term of respect or honourific - "Sir"? "Sir" doesn't sound like the most common written word in everyday use so you can use it as "your" word just for him....

Yes, he did have a suggestion, on Page 1 despite the fact that he *personally* does not agree with the request.

Julietsierra:
What I have read into the posts of those of us who say in various ways that the OP's Master is behavaing badly on this subject is this:
That * we * see that she has tried and tried to suit his request, that there is some frustration level on finding a way that will not affect her progress with her dyslexia. That if a sub has tried and is unable to reach a suitable solution due to a limitation, pushing her to do so further is not exhibiting a full grasp of the potential harm to the submissive nor a good understanding of her limitation.
Does this make him a _________ < insert the insult> ?
Maybe   Maybenot. !
There are some of us who do respect her limitation and believe that a Masters job is to work within the limitations or to help the submissive live easier within her limitations, not create situations that have a potentially high failure rate.

If it were me in the OPs, I would feel less "submissive like" at this point in my search to please him. Given that I would have made several attempts and suggestions that have not been pleasing and I am stuck through no actual fault or lack of trying. Speaking only for myself: If I try and try and come up empty, I look to my Dominant to help me find a way to meet the request or alter it to a level that is attainable. That's a win-win situation for both of us. I also expect my Dominant to realize that there are some things he just cannot control, that sometimes nature is a bit more Dominant than he. And, <horror of horrors > I also expect him to be able to see that he may have made a request that was not within my capablities of fulfilling.

And incidently, many of the posters who are in disagreement with this Masters request< myself include>, said exactly the same thing as you in a condensed/alternate version:
He needs to become educated to her dyslexia and have an understanding of how it works.

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