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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 11:50:21 AM   
juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

Wonderful analysis... and your solution/answer is?

Should we have a generational cleansing, say once every twenty years make it open hunting season with a specified bag limit?

Are you talking of checking them in, or checking them out?

Screw their induced paranoia... don't feed it or become part of it.

What do you normally do in the present when the doorbell rings, and you peer out the window to see two white shirt and tie clad lads, each holding a bible and one with his finger on your doorbell button?

In the old days the mere sound of a double-barrel shotgun being closed would send them running... what do you do, watch them or yell there's nobody home?




I will not hide, that is my solution. I will not cower. I will not stop expressing my beliefs because it might "fuel" them. This site alone is enough to fuel them. I have stood up before on other issues near and dear to the right wing, and took part in other types of activism.. why wouldn't I stand up for other people's rights along with my own?

I am not going to go around telling everyone I love to be beaten with a switch and like to be ordered around sexually, but I am quite open about my beliefs in sexual freedom,... never shy away from that. If asked I will tell people I am a submissive. If we do not stand up for each other for fear of fueling them then we lose. If we cower on our belief in freedom then we lose our freedom. You have no real freedom if you exercise it and someone has abridged it. You have to express freedom to have it. That is my solution.

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 11:51:59 AM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Nasty, you must be talking about those "Seventh Day Adventists"
with the name tags that have their first name and "ELDER" on it.
LOL, I tell them to go fuck themselves too!
I have a very hard time seeing some snot-nosed 20 year old kid as an "ELDER."
Now that's a real strange "religion!"
Some guy found some golden tablets and had a "vision" in UTAH???
Why not have a "vision" in Las Vegas?
If these "religions" were any good why to they have to go ringing people's doorbells and annoying them to try to get them to join?

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 11:54:59 AM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Julia, you bet your arse on that!
Send those fuckers over to my house!
I'll Jack them up! Tell the Cops they tried to break in!

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:01:52 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Hi Lady Ellen, 
 
    I understand fundamentalists because I was once one
myself, and believed that others knew God's will better
than I did. I turned off my reason, because it conflicted
with what I believed.   I don't know what I could have been
convinced to do in the name of God. 
 
     On the other hand, I have little regard for atheists
who follow Ayn Rand and/or Nietzsche.  I have little
regard for atheists who admire Bill Gates and Donald
Trump. 
 
      I am committed to the teachings of Jesus.  I just
don't believe he was God, nor do I believe in the existence
of any God.  I love for people to ask me how I think the
universe got here, because I have a very good answer.
 
     I really believe the world needs a new religion. 
One that just worships loving-kindness, compassion,
understanding, forgiveness, patience, sharing,
altruism and empathy, and one that condemns creulty,
selfishness, self-centeredness, physical intimidation,
mean-spirited conduct and abuse.
 
     Sadly, most humanists are just armchair
philosophers who get together and talk about how
superior they are for believing God does not exist, and
how is is great to help other and better the world.  Yet,
few humanists, if any, have a serious commitment to
help their fellow man.  They may do a little pro bono
work, and volunteer to act as a guardian ad litem,
but they essentially live selfish lives.
 
Warmest regards,
Michael

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:09:06 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Ah!  Ah!    I'm having a "VISION!"
I see a nice looking babe out by the pool in a light blue bikini! THANKYOU GOD!!!
I think I'll put my swim trunks on and go out to the pool and "study some anatomy!"
"Thank you   JEEEEE-sus!!!"

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:12:30 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Another seventh day adventist in the making Popeye?


LOL,
Ron

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:14:14 PM   
kc692


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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: kc692

Has anyone realized that on the bottom of the home page there is a link to the last discussion of this group on collarme???


Yes, but why did you bring that up?


Because it just seems they are using our discussions about their group as fodder to authenticate their group, foster interest in them, and help their membership.  Sorry, thought some may have missed that, even though YOU didn't.

< Message edited by kc692 -- 8/14/2006 12:15:04 PM >

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:15:57 PM   
LadyEllen


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Status: offline 		Hi Michael

Ever looked at Tibetan Buddhism? Would seem to fit what youre looking for. Geshe Kelsang Gyatso wrote "Joyful Path Of Good Fortune" as a complete guide to achieving enlightenment - see if you can get a copy. Skip the first bit about choosing a teacher, unless you have one - the rest is pure gold.

Jesus is absolutely fine by me too - its organised christianity I cant abide - but Jesus' teachings are spot on instructions for personal spirituality. Interesting for me is that when I looked at Buddhism I also found out that much of what is ascribed to Jesus was said by Buddha centuries before - often word for word. It either means that Gautama and Jesus were on the same wavelength, or maybe, just maybe, that Jesus may just have been a Buddhist missionary!

E

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:17:49 PM   
NastyDaddy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

...You have to express freedom to have it. That is my solution.



You are free to run like hell to their yahoo club and joinup... or you are free to say screw this, and go on about your business.

My entire position in this matter has been to ignore them here at collarme... and I have no business being ''guided'' to yahoo. 

Why should I dash over to their yahoo house and scream at them? Does that ensure my freedom? Does that make me equal, a balanced free person... not in my book, it makes me just like them, only I was quided to them - - - by them!

Step over this line........................................................................... I dare ya!

Screw them and their yahoo club... I'll just stay where I'm at... let them anticipate my coming...


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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 12:28:04 PM   
truesub4u


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Status: offline 		And CM gets more free advertisement... wtg there... LOL

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 3:13:29 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Lady Ellen, Buddists suck too!
I tell them to go fly away on their "Magic Carpets."
Oh wait, that's the muslims I tell that to!
Aren't the Buddists the ones at the airports bumming money?
I tell them; "Get a job, you bums!"

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 4:00:43 PM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Lady Ellen, Buddists suck too!
I tell them to go fly away on their "Magic Carpets."
Oh wait, that's the muslims I tell that to!
Aren't the Buddists the ones at the airports bumming money?
I tell them; "Get a job, you bums!"


Those are Moonies..... I can't say I share your distain of all religions Popeye, just as long as they do not impinge my freedom Im ok with them

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 4:14:21 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Julia, oh, Moonies, I forgot about them!
There's so many different "Religions!"
But, all religions impinge on our freedoms because they ALL want to convert us to their way of thinking.
We have "Freedom of Religion" in this country but we should also have freedom FROM religion as well.
What a bunch of crap; "My God can beat up your God."

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 7:34:24 PM   
WhipTheHip


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Status: offline 		Hi Lady Ellen,

> Ever looked at Tibetan Buddhism?

Yes, I have.  My own religion is very close to Tibetan Buddhism or B'haism.
The thing is I want to cut away all the extraneous stuff.  My religion can be
summed up in one word: "Empathy."  To my mind, adding more is subtraction.

You can read about my religion and the community I would like to create
here:
 
http://directory.ic.org/records/?action=view&page=view&record_id=20445


Jesus got his beliefs from Judaism.  Where Jews got their beliefs, I don't
know. 
 
I believe in science and nothing more.  But this does not stop me from
wanting to help others, and wanting to lessen human and animal sufffering,
and wanting to make the world a more loving, caring place.
 
With love, compassion, and understanding,
Michael.
 

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 8:46:19 PM   
paynestar


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Status: offline 		This is a ridiculous group. What is the purpose in giving attention.

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 9:07:45 PM   
popeye1250


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Status: offline 		Paynester, we're just goofing around.
I don't really do that stuff just making a joke.

(Oh, Oh! A Jehovah's Witness!)

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 9:38:36 PM   
Aine


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< Message edited by Aine -- 8/14/2006 9:41:04 PM >

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Honey, you obviously missed the "want to be used as a toilet fetish" thread or "where do I get instructions on setting my sub on fire" thread. LOL

Thank you, DelRay for that one.

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 9:40:21 PM   
Aine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

EvilGeoff wrote:

> I'm sorry Whip, but unless you have interviewed every Christian
> to find out what their individual beliefs are, you've done nothing
> but make a grossly over-reaching blanket statement that is nothing
> but pure stereotyping of the absolute worst order.

The history of Christianity speaks for itself.  I don't have to interview
every National Socialists to know National Socialism is bad news.
I don't have to interview every Wahhabi Muslim to know Wahhabi
Islam is bad news.  And I don't have to interview every Christian
to know Christianity is a dangerous religion.  Even today Christians
are trying to force others to follow their religious beliefs. 





WheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeIlovebigfont!


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Honey, you obviously missed the "want to be used as a toilet fetish" thread or "where do I get instructions on setting my sub on fire" thread. LOL

Thank you, DelRay for that one.

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 9:42:46 PM   
Homestead


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Status: offline 		This is as public as I will ever get. We have no more right to push our sexual prefferences on bigots than they have to exert thier wills on us. Get over it.

And no, I will not reply to any angry retorts for expressing my opinion here, get over that as well.

< Message edited by Homestead -- 8/14/2006 9:43:11 PM >

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RE: BIGGOTS AGAINST BDSM - 8/14/2006 9:48:40 PM   
Aine


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Status: offline 		Quite simpy put:

I believe in God. I believe in being good. 

What I do NOT believe in is what MAN has done in the name of God. 


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Honey, you obviously missed the "want to be used as a toilet fetish" thread or "where do I get instructions on setting my sub on fire" thread. LOL

Thank you, DelRay for that one.

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