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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 9:00:52 PM

Submotive

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Master in being who He is, allows me to be who i am - it's called power exchange not transference.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 9:28:19 PM

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i have never taken it as literally as i know some do....i put it in theme category of life is a gift, being a good friend is a gift, hearing a bird sing in the early hours is a gift, watching a child discover his hand for the first time is a gift, signing a Donner card is a gift, being acutely aware of this moment right now is a gift, getting a letter or writing a letter is a gift, having a body that does what you ask it, is a gift, forgiveness is a gift....

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 9:31:09 PM

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Ask protagonistlily.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 9:31:37 PM

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Thank you crouchingtigresse, you said my thoughts much better than I did when I atttempted to get the same thing across

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 10:02:38 PM

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quote:

Giving your submission and domination is a selfish act.

I've been saying the same for nine years, now.

In submitting, I am offering my heart, soul, beliefs, efforts, and every other part of me it is possible to give to someone else. But it definitely, without question, comes with a whole lot of conditions and expectations. I expect Him to be honorable. I expect Him to be a man of His word. I expect Him to take responsibility for my well being and financial future if He insists I do not work. I could go on indefinitely, but if those expectations are not met, I'm packing up my marbles and going home.

And then, there's the other reason it's not a gift - the fact that I do what I do because it fills a deep-seated need within myself. If I did not have that need; if I did not require someone else to get that need met; I'd not be submitting to anyone.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 11:09:03 PM

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I totaly agree it's not a gift. A gift is something you give to someone else with out any expectations in return, and you can't really take it back.

Submission comes with all kinds of strings and expectations and we can take it back any time we please.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/16/2006 11:55:29 PM

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I refer to submission as a "gift" in my profile. Perhaps I should change it, since interpretations vary? My thought is that submission is freely given and should not be taken by force or threats (such as the threat of abandonment). The Domme should not take what she wants from me until I submit to Her. Basically, I must consent. I will submit and freely give myself to Her when She has earned my trust. I, too, must also earn Her trust. Mutuality definitely exists.

I also believe that if I am going to trust someone with my body and my mind, that my body/mind should be respectfully treated....although one may be owned by a Mistress, it is my thought that at least the Mistress's property (me) will be viewed as precious property and treated well. But, do I expect a good spanking or flogging when I am out of line or perhaps just because my Mistress can because I belong to Her? Yes, absolutely.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 12:21:50 AM

Wolfie648

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quote:

In submitting, I am offering my heart, soul, beliefs, efforts, and every other part of me it is possible to give to someone else. But it definitely, without question, comes with a whole lot of conditions and expectations. I expect Him to be honorable. I expect Him to be a man of His word. I expect Him to take responsibility for my well being and financial future if He insists I do not work. I could go on indefinitely, but if those expectations are not met, I'm packing up my marbles and going home.

this -* to me *- is the difference between submission and slavery.

A slave does regardless of anything. I'm merely making a point not suggesting that your viewpoint is wrong.

D (owner of j).

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 2:12:39 AM

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Thanks for posting that link to the definition... it is always good to read the actual definition of words when applying them.

For those that think that all relationships and life itself is a gift it does not change an opinion

2 : something voluntarily transferred by one person to another without compensation

I do not expect compensation for my submission.

It depends how you interpret the sentance. Submission isn't always voluntary... there are those who are submissives by choice of course... but there are many whos' submission is within them. For these people, they do cannot control who they submit to... their submission just occurs, there is no conscious decision , voluntary or not, therefore that sentance would prove that submission - nor dominance - is a gift.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 2:14:52 AM

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The gift, is fate letting the Dominant and the submissive find each other.
They should both appreciate that.
And each other.

< Message edited by Kedikat -- 8/17/2006 2:15:35 AM >

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 2:26:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

What's next? Please let it be one of my favorites. Pubic shaving tips.

LOL Katy.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 2:36:15 AM

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i guess i see things very differently, submit is a verb and the act of submission does offer a gift to the Dominant but that is Power. That should be what He recieves from my submission. The gift of submission is the gift He gives me by allowing me to be me and to serve.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 4:09:40 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterzone

The gift of submission is garbage.

Dammit! And I already had it in my gift registry! You know what it will take to edit that thing?

You can edit your gift registry easily online at most major department stores......

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 5:48:53 AM

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I think that although submission can be a part of someone's personality, within a D/s relationship, it's a deal between the parties involved, not a gift.

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

What's next? Please let it be one of my favorites. Pubic shaving tips.

Did I miss the most recent version of that one??? Darn....because I found a new one to add to it yesterday: Don't trim up and then go ride a horse in hot humid weather for 4 or 5 hours.....well, not unless your sadistic Master demands it.....or unless you're really, really into giving a 'gift'.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 6:41:54 AM

SweetSarijane

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As a dewey eyed newbie, I thought it was a gift. As I've grown and learned, I no longer view it that way. It's more a consensual exchange between Dom and sub in my opinion.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 6:45:15 AM

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That was beautifully put, and exactly how I feel about the topic....

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 7:12:01 AM

juliaoceania

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I did not mean to infer that the way I submit is the only way there is to submit. Since I am speaking of my self only, then it is only myself I am talking about.

Like Crouchintigresse said, I believe that life itself, love, a good relationship... all these things are gifts. I think compassion to another is a gift. I think many things are gifts

But even if it is something within, a latent talent, something that someone is without thinking, an inborn trait.. it is their gift, like someone is a born dancer or artist is gifted...smiles

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 7:12:48 AM

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Not true. You do expect compensation for your submission. Think about it. Why are you submitting in the first place?

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 7:28:32 AM

CreativeDominant

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

Not true. You do expect compensation for your submission. Think about it. Why are you submitting in the first place?

Agreed. This isn't jumping on you julia so please don't take it that way...but as Evanesce said, she expects something in return for her submission. Do you not expect something in return for your submission from your Daddy...even if the only thing you expected out of him was to treat you with respect for your submission? That is compensation, whether it be monetary or not.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 7:30:11 AM

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Wow, what is wrong with wanting something from a relationship?? Isn't that one of the main reasons people enter into them?

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