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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 10:39:16 PM

NastyDaddy

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This squirming slimy thread is becoming an living example of the theory of evolution...

It started out with several pages of whether or not the relative subject of submission is or is not a gift... now it's evolved into splitting the alleged nonexistent gift hairs into subtypes.... the self-less gift of submission vs. the self-ish gift of submission....

and the band played on...

Only the participants of an act of submission know the answer as it truely applies to them... all else is foam and lather, smoke and mirrors, and typically irrelevent.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 10:42:25 PM

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I always just sort of thought all of the gift talk was a nice way for some Dominants to say "thanks" to some submissives for being submissive. Personally, I never bought into the whole "gift" idea, but I never thought it was meant to be insulting, as a term, to anyone. - Susan

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 11:01:15 PM

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The only two amebas that are exactly alike just came from the same one... and then shit happens, one or both learn about gifts.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/17/2006 11:02:42 PM

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You are such a good teacher, Nasty Daddy!

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 1:32:13 PM

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crOck,

So what do you think about a woman who enter the bdsm world to please her Man ( i'm in that case)? Is nt it a gift?

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 1:51:43 PM

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Chloelicious,

It's a gift, but a gift for him as much as for yourself. After all, you derive pleasure (or value, if we wan't to be philosophical) from the act of submitting, and if you did not, you would never have entered (or should not enter) the world of BDSM. That's why it's not a sacrifice to submit. What would be considered sacrifice would be to enter into a relationship with a man for whom you have no feelings. Then you would be subordinating your interest (of being in a loving relationship) to his (although, if I may go on, you can argue that that is not in his interest either, because if he in fact loves you, he would not wan't to see you suffer in a relationship from which you gain nothing).

In short, both parties gain value in behaving with rational self-interest.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 1:58:01 PM

Chloelicious

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In my case it s really a gift but not a sacrifice at all, anyway i 'm not really submissive and even if He does'nt complain he suffer from this situation because we don't want the same things,at different time and we "play" once every 2 month.

I 've discover that i was more ready to play in public then in private but it s not a lot of party in Belgium. My charachter (sorry for the spelling) is more dominant then submissive that why i'm tempted to domme.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 2:02:49 PM

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When i give a gift, i have no intentions of taking it back, or asking for it back, or else why give it in the first place. If i am going to ask for it back, then i should call it a loan! LOL!

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 2:17:30 PM

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Giving a gift doesn't have to be a selfless act. As a matter of fact, more often than not, it isn't.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/18/2006 2:21:09 PM

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I take nothing back, i've tried and i discovered it was not really my thing.

What should I had done? I'm not asking him to stop His lifestyle and i m encouraging Him to find another submissive even if i m jealous. And i did'nt tell that we were doing nothing at all right now, we just settled things out.

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RE: The gift of submission. - 8/23/2006 5:47:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Chloelicious

What should I had done? I'm not asking him to stop His lifestyle and i m encouraging Him to find another submissive even if i m jealous. And i did'nt tell that we were doing nothing at all right now, we just settled things out.

In My opinion this is a selfless gift.

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