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RE: Beliefs - 8/17/2006 7:40:16 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Yup. Their believes have to be similar enough to mine that we're compatible, There wouldn't be any re aligning nesssisary any one I took on wouldn't have to realign they'd be the same as mine right from get go.

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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 3:04:43 AM   
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i considered the Dominant or Master role as also having a spiritual component, so i would not have gotten involved with One who didn't share the same spiritual values.  If i could not pray with, or ask Master to pray for me, i would feel a level of separation there that i don't want.  i also feel there are no better lessons than when He uses our common ground beliefs as a springboard to other things.

W/W/we had a rolling funny this weekend when one of the Guys commented about Eve getting us all in this mess, and i countered that Adam was appearantly shirking responsibility to have left her alone to fend for herself against satan.  (i claimed Adam was napping on the couch) .. while it was good natured gender bashing debate and joking, what worked in the end was W/we all had a common point of reference to settle the dispute, and getting out the bible and some language translation tools let us all get off our own version to settle on one agreed version of th story.

The point isn't so much about what the truth is to anyone else, but that W/we all agreed on the final arbiter. Sharing that agreement on the big things allows U/us to manage smaller differences on the minutia, and the wisdom to know which is which.

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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 3:19:28 AM   
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A partner's beliefs are irrelevent to me as it isn't me that has to live with them. However, I'm suspicious of people who vehemently espouse ethics and integrity because I think very few people are saints and rigid beliefs inevitably lead to hypocrisy and moral cowardice.

I'm a leftwing libertarian who has no religious belief whatsoever and a ominvore who believes we should treat the animals we eat with care and be responsible for the environment. If a potential partner can live with that, that's fine because I'm not going to change my beliefs for a partner and wouldn't expect a partner to change their beliefs for me.

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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 4:20:29 AM   
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I am hear because of my beleifs.
 
 So really I beleive I have a Dominant side,
and thats why in hear!!!

  If your religion cant eccept me for who I am,
   Is against such preverse action as to why your on this site.

Then why are you hear preaching it to me...?

Its not like they didnt know were it was going.

Pulls out a rideing crop, and devil horns.
Its not that i,m evil, Just that i,m wicked.

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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 5:48:31 AM   
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i am a Christian (liberal variety) and my Master is an athiest.  We don't push our beliefs on each other, but we both expect that our beliefs will be respected.  We are on the same page regarding moral values so it hasn't been an issue.  He did raise my hackles once by a brief, but very negative reaction to a Christian topic.  i let him know that i was unhappy about that and we haven't had any issues since.

i will have to admit that sometimes this difference makes me a little sad, and a part of me wonders about the long-term imact of the religious difference on our relationship.  i respect his right to make decisions and judgement that are best for him and he respects mine.

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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 7:24:12 AM   
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While there are some wonderful posts, I've noticed that it has started to become more a discussion on particular beliefs rather than sticking to the general blanket question of : on what level and in what ways do you or do you not think that someone should change their ways and beliefs/someone should "mold" someone and make them change for them in order to make a relationship work?

And on the other side of this, I've noticed that some of the responses, while on topic, are painfully short and repetitive of other responses in this thread.  I personally would love to see the WHY behind some of these responses over what y'all believe.  :)  Me thinks that that part is for another thread altogether.  (Though don't get me wrong, I loved reading y'alls views on certain beliefs)

*grins and adjusts the glasses that gets her the Teacher/Librarian comment oh so often*  On task, people, stay on task!


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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 8:45:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aine

While there are some wonderful posts, I've noticed that it has started to become more a discussion on particular beliefs rather than sticking to the general blanket question of : on what level and in what ways do you or do you not think that someone should change their ways and beliefs/someone should "mold" someone and make them change for them in order to make a relationship work?
I don't think beliefs should be changed on either side, although it may happen as an organic process of being with someone different, it should not be an expectation. If you cannot make a relationship work with a person the way they exist, I suggest finding a new relationship. Others do things differently than I do, but I wouldn't want someone to choose me to change me, if I am not loveable the way I am to that person, they should find someone that is.. life is too short to be with people that do not honor or respect the unique person I am


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RE: Beliefs - 8/18/2006 8:58:33 AM   
Aine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aine

While there are some wonderful posts, I've noticed that it has started to become more a discussion on particular beliefs rather than sticking to the general blanket question of : on what level and in what ways do you or do you not think that someone should change their ways and beliefs/someone should "mold" someone and make them change for them in order to make a relationship work?
I don't think beliefs should be changed on either side, although it may happen as an organic process of being with someone different, it should not be an expectation. If you cannot make a relationship work with a person the way they exist, I suggest finding a new relationship. Others do things differently than I do, but I wouldn't want someone to choose me to change me, if I am not loveable the way I am to that person, they should find someone that is.. life is too short to be with people that do not honor or respect the unique person I am



Amen.  Pretty much how my own personal opinion is on it too.  Though yeah, I definitely agree that not everyone is like that.  I expect that a person is honorable enough to respect who I am from the get-go and won't make it their personal mission to change me in any way I'm not willing to change.


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