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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 7:00:17 AM

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You are treasure to them and not just a responsibility and definitely not a burden to them. In other words... all of you appreciate each other for what you all contribute to your relationship together. I wish more relationships existed like you three.

You are too sweet and we are happy.......

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I work out of the house..... I get some money for my efforts

alandra works in the house.... I get a comfortable home environment for her efforts.

kyra works out of the house... I get to improve the comforts of my life for her efforts.

It's all good.

Your lucky ladies seem very happy and content, as well as yourself, perhaps there should also be more relationships like your own as well.

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 9:54:10 AM

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I'm thinking about this in terms of historical slavery and how that could be used to justify the owner/dom staying home while the slave(s)/sub(s) work.

If one actually had a number of subs or slaves then the owner/dom's work could be to organize that household. Thus the work for income on the part of the slaves is their work, and the owner's is to organize then and use said income for the benefit of everyone. Usually this was done more by the lady of the house while the man of the house did things of a political or social nature in public.

But the owner of a farm may not do the physical labor only the organizing and managing of it thus living off of the income created via slave labor.

I could imagine a similar situation today (regardless of the gender or sex of the parties). I think it would work best when the dom first had the business set up and then used the sub/slave labor in it -- in a way then it is still work for the dom, just not what we might thing of as work outside the home.

Random thoughts.

You make a good point. Sometimes, particlarly in male dom / female sub situations it seems more like examples of a mistress / consort / kept woman than that of a historical slave. I've at times joked about having an all female slave, nude, construction crew...

But more seriously, the reality is that any slave I own will be assigned tasks beyond just housework, for example a personal secretary (something someone commented just last night that I really do need), and other jobs within my businesses. They will be expected to be useful in a variety of ways, and through that to earn their keep.

But what I find most ironic is that I haven't been able to participate in this or other threads very much recently because I'm too busy with work.

Life's such a funny thing.

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 12:48:36 PM

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Glad you replied, Padriag. I always enjoy your posts. Hope all is going well.

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 12:54:13 PM

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Knightofmists, you have TWO subs/slaves?

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 3:31:18 PM

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Knightofmists, you have TWO subs/slaves?

Yes, he does have two slaves. It is rare for alandra to post to the boards, but he and I post quite regularly.

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 3:34:57 PM

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Personally, I couldn't imagine not working...sub or Dom (I'm sub, however).

Part of it is my upbringing (the man should take care of things financially such that they have what they need, plus some), part of it is simply...I couldn't handle not working.

(Now...golfing every day...that's another topic altogether).

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 5:57:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

You make a good point. Sometimes, particlarly in male dom / female sub situations it seems more like examples of a mistress / consort / kept woman than that of a historical slave.
But more seriously, the reality is that any slave I own will be assigned tasks beyond just housework, for example a personal secretary (something someone commented just last night that I really do need), and other jobs within my businesses. They will be expected to be useful in a variety of ways, and through that to earn their keep.

But what I find most ironic is that I haven't been able to participate in this or other threads very much recently because I'm too busy with work.

Life's such a funny thing.

Hello and good points, TY.
Yes, historically there were slaves for different purposes. Harem slaves. Bed slaves. Sex pets and breeders. Field hands. Stable hands. House slaves. Cooks. Etc. Let's not forget eunuchs ;)

One common thread: OWNERS had to be able to afford slaves! SO, they were rich already, but then still had to manage the overseers and such. Work!

To any who think "housework" is just dusting a counter... think cooking 3 meals a day, correspondance -written, calls, waiting for the cable guy, bill paying, shopping for the household, washing, ironing your clothes, running your errands, entertaining your guests, maybe children, keeping self attractive in whatever manner ( yes, pretty long hair, nice nails, smooth skin, fitness, do take some effort) ALL for Master SO - you are greeting and treated like the King you are when you come home.

Not exactly sitting on ass eating bon bons.

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/23/2006 8:22:29 PM

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Your lucky ladies seem very happy and content, as well as yourself, perhaps there should also be more relationships like your own as well.

thank you

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RE: Male Doms should not have to work for a living. Dis... - 8/24/2006 4:08:59 AM

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I have read some interesting replies in this thread; I can see views are expressed on many different levels.

An understanding of social traits that stretch back to when humans lived in caves is not really needed; we can all see what and why that was part bred into us.

It has not changed today, females see a successful male as one who can provide just as years ago it was bringing to the cave food and security, it really has not changed it is a natural instinct bred into us.

Of course time and evolution has insured we continually strive to do things better, but essentially the basic instincts are still there even if they are buried a little deeper.

There are double standards which we see in any lifestyle vanilla or alternative coming to terms with these can be stressful. A successful female who provides more to the union than her male partner does not mean she is the dominant partner although in many relationships it may seem that is the case and in some instances it is the case.

Relationships whether vanilla or alternative have to have a balance and to be successful it has to be there, self worth inside the relationship is probably the way to express this.

Women over the years have fought and gained equal status in many areas with the male counter part, and rightly so; we then have this alternative lifestyle where one partner gives authority to some degree to the other but the basic instinct bred into us is still there only instead of bringing the buffalo home it is now financial status.

Is it wrong for a submissive to provide a significant part of that financial stability if that submissive is male no one would ask any questions, if the submissive is female then many questions are asked. (Basic instinct surges forward)
The big point is if it was a vanilla relationship would it be questioned, many vanilla relationships the female has equal or better income to the male.

I would find it very concerning if a male not providing any income was living off the income of his female partner whatever the relationship, without good reason.
Yes there are circumstances when this happens through the choice of both partners (house husband) or disability but even on disability there is an income of sorts.

In the future that basic instinct may be nothing more than memories, and as more women provide higher financial stability to relationships we may come to see it as nothing more than it is, a union where self worth inside a relationship is not assessed on financial basis but on the strengths each form to solidify the relationship.

One more point, if a Dominant expected tribute from their submissive would many find it wrong or just foolish of the submissive, or would it make a difference what sex the Dominant is in relation to the submissive.

Like many things in life it comes down to supply and demand, if the supply is low and the demand high then ultimately there is a cost.

The supply (females) whether Dominant or submissive is low in relation to the demand and as such males are squeezed whether Dominant or submissive.

No I am not moaning about the situation I am just pointing out the reality.

My partner and I have been living our relationship the way we want for 25 years and to be honest who earns what has never entered into our relationship as long as the bacon is on the table and bills are paid does it matter, we have faced tough times and good times and through it all we have stood strong because our relationship has strength and depth that is not reliant on the size of our bank balance; having financial security helps but it is not the do all or end all of a relationship. If a relationship is based around money it is doomed to eventually fail.

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