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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 12:27:20 PM   
KatyLied


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there are far better scams she could be running to earn more than that. ouch.


Okay, this is funny.  We are sitting around critiquing a girl's scam.  Hey, if it works for her and someone is dumb enough to send her the money, it's good for her.  Suckers.


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:08:21 PM   
swtnsparkling


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If they don't have some type of savings plan they're not a responsable person to begin with.

I think this is a ridiculous statment- Do you have any idea how many people and or family households out there only make enough money to barely survive from week to week- every penny is used for food-bills etc and are unable to start a savings.
They are responsable people who are doing the best they can with what they have.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:15:28 PM   
KatyLied


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They are responsable people who are doing the best they can with what they have.


I understand what you are saying.  But if wants to make that a criteria that he's comfortable with, I don't see a problem with it.


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:22:29 PM   
NastyDaddy


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Status: offline 		Just as in the druggy world... the big dogs who organize, supply/traffic don't normally get busted first. The little penny ante dealer level operators are usually not the ones the cops bust first... rather the end user gets nabbed, well squeezed until the info flows, pointing the way back up the chain towards the big dogs.

Sure online scams are all funny and wow, so what, sucker born every minute... but it is actually deeper if you think about it.

They are invading your turf, masquerading as you, mingling... Why will they do this? It's for the same reason that a dog licks his balls... it's because he can... it's not about how big his balls are, it's simply because he can. 

CM has a word filter, so why not use it? While I would not go as far as to suggest filtering words such as Nigeria and Ghana, I'd suggest implementing filtering on the other side of unmentionables to include terminology associated with expenses, costs, money, gifts, or whatever that would flag a pending profile for further review prior to it being approved for use.

If a monkey can steal one of your bananas as opposed to climbing the banana tree to get his/her own banana, what will the monkey continue to do... until you make an effort to make your bananas less available to the lazy bastard?

What do you do when you get slipped a computer mickey, a virus or trojan? You are way to smart to just "get one". Don't tell me you took a proactive position and actually use some anti-virus shit to assist your being so way fucking smart....

Do you leave the doors and windows open when the mosquitos are really hungry for your blood?

...then you might be a masochist! 


Edit:  

CM can disapprove someone's picture on the CM website because of a nipple! Some human associated with CM felt that nipple represented something BAD! Picturephobia is seemingly important to protect ALL of us, AND all the people who can no longer see the highly safeguarded BAD nipple.

Yet... CM is totally incapable of taking a more aggressive stance against online $$$ scammers using the CM website???

This logic especially totally escapes me...

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:44:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy
Sure online scams are all funny and wow, so what, sucker born every minute... but it is actually deeper if you think about it.

Actually in this case, I really don't think it is. 

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CM can disapprove someone's picture on the CM website because of a nipple! Some human associated with CM felt that nipple represented something BAD! Picturephobia is seemingly important to protect ALL of us, AND all the people who can no longer see the highly safeguarded BAD nipple.

The pictures issue is actually due to recent legislation.  Tons of bdsm and sex related sites shut down and limited their content due to it and fear of prosecution.  It's not due to CM people being scared of sex or thinking sex is bad.  I once had a picture of my feet denied and simply emailed the moderators.  They agreed it was a glitch and put the pics up. 

Generally, if you're reasonable to the mods, the mods will be reasonable with you.  They'd prefer people to be happy on the site.
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Yet... CM is totally incapable of taking a more aggressive stance against online $$$ scammers using the CM website???

This logic especially totally escapes me...

Have you ever contacted the mods directly about a particular scam with solid information?

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:47:49 PM   
NastyDaddy


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Have you ever contacted the mods directly about a particular scam with solid information?



Psst... they are reading this thread.




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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 1:50:31 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy
Psst... they are reading this thread.

Which means nothing.  You whine about CM not doing anything about it when the person can't even make an intelligent, comprehensive email together about the details of what happened and inform them?  If he doesn't consider it enough of an issue to contact the moderators and make an effective attempt to do something, why should they take it seriously? 

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 2:12:56 PM   
LeatherBentOne


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 2:35:05 PM   
NastyDaddy


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Which means nothing.  



You are welcome to assume things that you do not know about mean nothing. You do not know which Mods I've communicated with directly today about this scam or this thread.

Indeed I've reported scams and solicitations to CM, which continued and propagated... it would seem they too meant nothing.

Scamming here at CM did not originate with this thread, neither did my intolerance to it.


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 3:35:24 PM   
Emperor1956


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Status: offline 		NastyDaddy, obviously this incident pressed some button of yours.  I don't think I've ever (in my year or so on CM) seen you get so riled up. 

Look, there really is no deeper significance here.  This fellow was scammed.  He's lucky it was only $250.  And you want to know the harsh truth?  He deserved to be scammed...Lets review the facts:  he "meets" this person on CM, talks to "her" on the phone, apparently, believes ONE WEEK into the "relationship" she will drop everything and come live with him and his girl...but the ONLY thing holding her back is $250 in transport costs?  (Oh, BTW, she owns a relatively sweet vintage car...but can't get a loan on it?)  I repeat...he's lucky it was only $250.

Why are you and all the others making excuses for stupidity?  Or better yet, "dissing" this grifter (the girl) for being ineffective...she made about $125/hour I figure.   That's a lot less than I bill, but about what I realize in actual profit.  Seems to Me she's got something that works. 

OH, and to the "legal experts" who spout off on the "crime" here --I'll make you a $250 bet.  I say you cannot in the next 10 days find Me a legitimate county or state prosecutor who will take on this case, as stated.  Yep, Emperor has the stake right here, in cash.  Put up yours, and get Me a letter on government letterhead that this case presents a "matter of interest" to SOME prosecutor.  Or pay Me the $250. 

There is no crime here.   It isn't wire or mail fraud...SHE DIDN'T COMMIT FRAUD.  It surely is not breach of contract (which isn't criminal anyway).  What contract? 

Pardon Me, but dumb is dumb. 

E.


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 6:32:40 PM   
NastyDaddy


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Status: offline 		I suppose I do take scamming a little more seriously than wagering as if it were simply sport.  Having seen friends scammed for a few thou, or seeing others scammed for "only" a few measley hundred makes scamming no less dishonest or illegal in my opinion. Granted, you are fully entitled to your sport, as I am entitled to my own opinion.

I don't justify rape because of the way the victim was dressed when she got raped. To me the same principle exists although granted scamming is not quite up to par with rape... yet the underlying principle I feel to be somewhat parallel.

Maybe I've watched too much Glen Beck and Nancy Grace lately, who knows... all I know is the more I see of this kind of shit the more I resent it, especially when it seems to be greeted with nonchallance and then ridicule of and for the scam victim. 


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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 7:10:20 PM   
TxBadMan


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Status: offline 		When my girl moved to Texas from California she made all the arrangements financially for the move. It was part of our agreement. I did however, pay the first 6 months rent on her apartment ( again, as per our agreement ). If she had told me up front that I was to be responsible for all or half of her moving expenses, up front; she would not now be in Texas.

Take it as a lesson learned. Next time, take some time and be a bit more mature in your decision making.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 9:33:43 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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Status: offline 		I am sorry this happened to you...you took a chance, and it did not work ,but you at least ,took a chance. It usually is those things that you never took a chance at that later on in life you wish you had..and regret not doing do...best wishes in your search.,,,Tempting

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RE: relocations costs - 8/24/2006 10:48:19 PM   
Emperor1956


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NastyDaddy:  I don't justify rape because of the way the victim was dressed when she got raped. To me the same principle exists although granted scamming is not quite up to par with rape... yet the underlying principle I feel to be somewhat parallel.


Your comparison is totally lacking in logic.  Rape is totally non-volitional.  In this case, the "victim" was a completely willing participant.  NOTHING was done to him without his complete consent.  And I don't even think there is a crime, here.  Just some very bruised egos, apparently including yours.

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  Maybe I've watched too much Glen Beck and Nancy Grace lately, who knows... all I know is the more I see of this kind of shit the more I resent it, especially when it seems to be greeted with nonchallance and then ridicule of and for the scam victim. 


I don't know who these people are.  Elaborate, please? 

I've already commented on your plea for the "victim".  As for ridicule, I actually liked Tempting's comment that at least the OP took a chance.  I don't fault him for that, at all.  I admire him for it.  I fault him for whining about it when the chance went awry.

In keeping with the "wager" metaphor, the OP put a $250 bet on a 99:1 long shot.  He lost his dough.  Had his filly come in, it would have been a major win, but the odds were almost certainly that he would lose...and he did.  I don't fault a risk taker for taking a risk, I fault him for whining when it went wrong, as it was almost certainly going to go.  Suck it up, learn, and go on.  But don't post here looking for sympathy and recourse.  Surely don't blame CollarMe for the failings of a foolish person.  And for My money, don't talk about this tawdry incident as if there is some great conspiracy here, or some lesson to be learned.

E

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 1:43:45 AM   
NastyDaddy


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Status: offline 		My comparison was in principle (as stated), your's was in logic. You seem to feel parasites feeding off newer CM members to be permissable, that it is newer member's stupidity at fault in the premise. I do not share your sympathy hence we disagree.  


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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 2:38:28 AM   
SusanofO


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Status: offline 		Big HUGs to everyone! Except the perp, of course. I just felt like saying that...

If she comes back here, somebody do tell me. I will pose as a wealthy American male who wants to not only send her $250, but a lot more, besides, or use an equally enticing scenario her greediness will find extremely appealing. I will then give her an e-mail experience related to her bilking, that she will not soon forget. She may also, consequently, stop doing this to people, when I am through with her - if she knows what is good for her. 

I am perfectly serious. I have to get really mad, but on those very, very rare occasions when this does indeed happen, I can be ingeniously, devastatingly evil. I think she does deserve it, and I can deliver. Just let me know.

- Susan

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 5:08:01 AM   
Aileen68


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When do people actually start taking responsibility for themselves? 
They didn't use their heads and sent money to a stranger.  Duh!
All they had to do was say no and their little problem would have gone away.
It's not up to collarme or anyone else for that matter to monitor your actions.
Collarme even has it written at the top that any requests for money are scams.
Use your heads people!

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 5:22:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aileen, I agree. But sometimes these kinds of people deserve, I think, to run up against someone who will attempt to beat them a their own game by playing it even better than they do. And it can be fun, and oh so satisfying...

- Susan

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 5:40:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

If someone doesn't have $250 in their savings that tells me anyway that I just wouldn't be interested.
If they don't have some type of savings plan they're not a responsable person to begin with.
What type of scam is that anyway that they're "happy" with taking someone for $250?
That alone shows no initiative!
I'd have more "respect" for them if they were doing it for $20,000.
Small-time low life druggy, probably!


Oh...I was curious about this thread, until I got to this comment.  I'm shocked and disappointed that someone out there might honestly believe those people like me who can't do more financially than provide for their children and keep their homes and vehicles running from week to week and who pay all their bills promptly but have NO savings, are "not a responsible person to begin with."

I hope this wasn't your true feeling, popeye, but a possible misstep in expressing your distaste for scammers and leeches.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 10:12:56 AM   
KatyLied


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I'm shocked and disappointed 


I am surprised (again) that someone would be shocked and disappointed that a person is setting a bar for what he finds acceptable or not acceptable.   Don't we all do that when "shopping" for a partner?


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