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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 11:29:07 AM

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I am surprised (again) that someone would be shocked and disappointed that a person is setting a bar for what he finds acceptable or not acceptable. Don't we all do that when "shopping" for a partner?

Saying "I will not be with someone unless they are financially secure and have excellent financial plans and savings already in place" is not the same thing as saying "A person is not a responsible person if they do not have significant savings."

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 11:53:17 AM

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I think Emporer1956 hit the nail precisely on the head. Now, I can pick my jaw up off the floor.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 5:17:08 PM

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Just had an image of the originator of this thread coming on line and saying "Guess what? She's shown up and she is PERFECT". Then it turns out that the originator of this thread is actually the girl herself and she posted this (with the follow-up) so that she can start a whole chain of similar ads and get a LOT of new suckers who figure "Hey it happened once so maybe it will happen again". And around and around and around....

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RE: relocations costs - 8/25/2006 8:04:54 PM

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Yopu know what they say....you pays your money and you takes your chances

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RE: relocations costs - 8/26/2006 7:10:07 AM

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shrugs, what is more disturbing to me is the fact that after simply talking on the phone and in chat to someone for only a week you would be foolish enough to move them into your home. The money is a secondary issue, as they say a fool and his money are soon parted. But, even if this were real and she showed up on your doorstep, taking that kind of risk with your home and present sub is unthinkable. Be happy with what you have and your relationship. That doesn't mean you should stop looking if it is something you both want but relax. Should you find what you want great if not that should also be great. Talk to people, make friends, don't get side tracked into the "We must find someone now" thing. the more time you spend just chatting, mingling, and making friends rather than beating the bushes searching, you can be surprised what you might stumble upon.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/27/2006 5:40:29 AM

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The real problem isn't the money or even that there are plenty of dishonest people it's the whole idea of instant relationships. Our computer's processor is too slow the day after we buy it, we stand in front of the microwave tapping our feet in impatience, we can't stand waiting at a stop light, we fast-forward our tapes and dvd's, flick through tv channels.... What ever happened to discovery, slowing down and really getting to know someone?

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RE: relocations costs - 8/27/2006 8:25:13 PM

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A couple of things, following up. In no particular order: Thanks LeatherBent for the props.

Aileen, can all that common sense and beauty really exist in a Jersey Girl? You continue to amaze me, miss.

PlayfulOne, you are very correct -- the risks of taking someone into your home on virtually NO acquaintance just because they are attractive and supposedly submissive are legion. Men get led around by their erections; I don't know the comparable statement about women. But the truth sadly is that people will do stupid things when they are in heat. My girl has told me of acquaintances of hers who did exactly that, and the new "poly" girl robbed them blind -- stole their identities, stole posessions, the whole thing.

However, in contrast to what a number of people have said about the "deeper" meanings in this whole sordid little tale, I will reiterate that this is simply one person's bad judgment and another (now anonymous) person's scam. There is no bigger truth or lesson here, folks. Dumb remains dumb, and there IS one born every minute.

And of course having money in the bank does not equate responsibility. Whoever was upset by that random whiffle ball of a thought should simply move on.

But my real reason for coming back here was that I am at bottom an incurably romantic sort of guy, and I was hoping to see that the girl showed up, $250 in hand, and has made the OP's little dreams come true. I really would like to see that one. But...it appears that I won't in this iteration. I think I'll go watch "Its a Wonderful Life" instead.

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RE: relocations costs - 8/28/2006 8:45:58 PM

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So I tried to alert collarme to a profile that I'm pretty sure is one of these $ scammers...but when I tried I was given a LIMITED menu of why reporting and "I think shes scamming for $$$$" WAS NOT an available action. Could collar me fix that?

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RE: relocations costs - 8/28/2006 9:08:47 PM

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LOLOLOLOL

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RE: relocations costs - 8/29/2006 4:39:14 AM

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no i guess they can't because even if you were to report a person as "scamming for money" with proof, collarme's only reply is "well you dumb person, our email page says on it in red letters that requests for money are scams" be that what it may, they still are in charge of the site and if documented proof is brought to them of someone using their site to prey on others, you would think that they would want to do something....apparently not....

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RE: relocations costs - 8/29/2006 5:21:22 AM

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It costs money to chase after someone in a court of law, even if it's small claims court. And even if not in a coirt, it can cost time, and sometimes money, too. If I recall correctly, Collarme is a free site, and a few months ago (or maybe it was last year), it was almost on the verge of shutting down, because it was having trouble meeting operating costs. Accepting new advertisers might have eased their financial strain somewhat, but not altogether, would be my guess.

It would be nice if Collarme had the time and money to chase after every yahoo who might try to do this kind of thing (I have no doubt these folks are out there, alive and well) but if they chased down one, there would be others to chase as well, and if it was policy to chase them down they'd soon be up to their ears in expense in both time and dollars that would most likely beyond their manageability (think about it).

That being said, if this happens again, send this gal to me. I'll give her an e-mail ride she'll not soon forget. And nobody will have to take her to court, hire a lawyer, or spend a dime. I do think people like this are predatory, and can see why people complain. Yes, it might be stupid for someone to fall prey to them, but it's also probably incredibly frustrating - and blaming the victim doesn't really solve any problem (does it)?

I think maybe we should form a small band of regular posters to pimp people like this around, and give them a taste of their own medicine. That wouldn't cost much, if anything, would be soul-satisfying, and might partially solve the problem. These people will always exist - but, a concentrated effort to winnow out a few, with some on-line CM conversation about how much fun it was tracking them down and handling them so thoroughly they were extremely likely to think twice before ever doing this to someone again, might prove effective in knocking those particular folks out of their game-playing, and might scare off a few potentials as well. This group would have to be careful how they pursued this end, but, it's one option.

Those are my two cents.

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RE: relocations costs - 9/1/2006 9:19:30 AM

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One possible scenario for "bringing those who can't afford to do it them selves and still keep your control of the situation!";
"alright, you're poor but sure. Go to the station on the edge of town, there you will find $X.xx (say $60.oo) to fill the car tank and your belly. You'll then procede down the road to "Y" where you will find X dollars for the same. You will then procede down the road to "W", where you will find X dollars for the same and a room for the night. You will arise in the morning and procede down the road to "V", where you will find X dollars for fuel and food.........." see what I'm doing? If they were lying then they maybe got 2 payments. Make the second payment insufficient to turn around, but adequate to get closer to you. Have them phone in at each stop. Find them at the next to last stop???
My journal shows someone attempted to hammer on my empty wallet annoyingly enough to elicite as biting a denunciation as I could create without promptly getting myself into trbl.
Plenty of 'interesting' reading around here, some of it might possibly even be recognizable as edifying.

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RE: relocations costs - 9/1/2006 9:23:23 AM

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FER SHURE, that hour spent in the bar b4 going 4 the ONS just has to beat a weeks worth of communicating.

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RE: relocations costs - 9/1/2006 9:23:51 AM

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One possible scenario for "bringing those who can't afford to do it them selves and still keep your control of the situation!";
"alright, you're poor but sure. Go to the station on the edge of town, there you will find $X.xx (say $60.oo) to fill the car tank and your belly. You'll then procede down the road to "Y" where you will find X dollars for the same. You will then procede down the road to "W", where you will find X dollars for the same and a room for the night. You will arise in the morning and procede down the road to "V", where you will find X dollars for fuel and food.........." see what I'm doing? If they were lying then they maybe got 2 payments. Make the second payment insufficient to turn around, but adequate to get closer to you. Have them phone in at each stop. Find them at the next to last stop???
My journal shows someone attempted to hammer on my empty wallet annoyingly enough to elicite as biting a denunciation as I could create without promptly getting myself into trbl.
Plenty of 'interesting' reading around here, some of it might possibly even be recognizable as edifying.

If I felt I had to do that much work, why would I even bother? I obviously don't trust them, so why would I want them to come be with me?

It MIGHT work as an amusing deterrant to a con person, but only if you're not really serious about it to begin with.

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