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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 8:51:45 PM

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oh oh ..

a perfect margie .. request ...

and yes so much better with a shot of grand ma

...

humm

:: steps the class of people at the bar up

and puts out .. salted nuts ...

:: giggles ..

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 8:55:52 PM

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LMAO at the salted nuts.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 8:57:35 PM

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I am still waiting for aliens and UFOs to come down and abduct all their followers. I can not say that I would miss Tom Cruise at all.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 9:10:16 PM

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LOL Sir Kenin, we can only hope they take him first.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 9:14:09 PM

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Wicca: Pretending to be an ancient religion since 1956

:: smiles
ignores the comment
... thinks about whom to pick on next ...
only trouble is i believe in the rule of 3
harm none .. do what you will and what you do comes back to you
:: throws a lime at the Omish ..
it was a run by fruiting ..
( hopes they don't have electric.. they will never know)
:: fixes another blender full of margies and ... looks longingly at her
nice soft .. cool bed
... its been fun
:: dances away to dream land

~~ blessings to you all

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 9:19:10 PM

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I see so many Christian-bashing threads, I just thought a little equal opportunity bashing would be appropriate. Any other religious sects we should pick on? Or would that be non-pc? Inappropriate? Unorthodox (had to throw that in for a pun)?

Just curious...

Do Morman's count as Christians?
(They have a whole extra book after all)
They wear masochistic underwear and don't drink anything hot. If they were jews, the no hot drinks requirement would get streached out to the point where they would not be able to do wax play.

One of their wandering missionaries actually told me "Vampires remind me of Christ" (Mind you, I was reading a trashy vampire novel at the time, and told him so).

So after all that, I'm not sure, are they pro-kink or anti-kink. Historically they were pro-poly, but under-age girl wives is so not my thing.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/26/2006 9:27:31 PM

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They are all self-delusional bunk Pick whichever one flips your toggles because none of it mean s crap!

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 2:49:14 AM

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I think the Church of Satin is pathetic. You have no set rules or core beliefs. Everyone is allowed to believe and practice what they want. What kind of a religion is that? Just do what you want. We don't care. If you go to there web site to ask any questions, all you get is "That's easy, it's all written right there. Just read it." If you argue that you already read everything and that you just want touch base on a topic, you find yourself getting into an argument on how you just need to re read it. So much for asking questions.

I find the theology of Ghandi stupid as well. We all have to be vegans and be weary not to endanger any life. It's to the point that you were mask as not to breath in micro oganisims that your immune system can kill. What kind of bull shit is that? If nature had intended for me to be a vegitarian, then I wouldn't have K-9 like teeth to eat meat.

One if not the most dumbest religions I've ever heard of is "The followers of Bob" I use to have one of these freaks as a sister in law. She worships Bob. Who's Bob? Bob is her god. Is Bob a person? No, Bob is a god. He's the creater of Utopia for us to all live in harmony. We all need to be vegan and can have all random sex we want. That was her concept of it. Now here are links that explain the rest.

http://www.etext.org/Quartz/subgenius/slack.news

http://www.streettech.com/bcp/BCPgraf/CyberCulture/threefistedtales.html

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 3:50:28 AM

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What is the saying? A few bad apples spoils the lot? I see this as doubly true when the supposed good apples stand on the sidelines in silence, allowing the hate of the minority to fester and spread. Silence implies agreeance, IMO.

I agree about silence equaling agreement. But how we use our voices is rather important, in my point of view. Those spewing hate at hate are not going to get very far, as they quickly lose credibility. As for a few bad apples...yes and no. There are more than a few bad apples in the life of BDSM, D/s, M/s, LMNOP....you get the idea. But that does not make the group as a whole bad. Does it?

Agreed here, also. Sadly, too many good voices from the religious arena are drowned out by the fire-and-brimstone crowd.

And those are the only voices heard, unfortunately.

Suddenly bursts into song: "Ya know ya make me wanna SHOUT kick your heels up and SHOUT....."

*starts dancing in the aisle*

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I absolutely agree that an entire group is not bad just because of a few that are bad. But to those on the outside looking in, it seems that way. BDSM does have a bad rap from th vanilla view, all because of some bed examples. Not all members ofthe National Socalist party in Germany were evil either, like Oskar Schlindler. This doesn't mean that the rest of the world shrugs the holocaust off as the work of a few bad apples, though. We see it as a conglomoration of evil.

There are Christians of a non fundamentalist bent that do speak out against their wild eyed brethren, but they are far and few between. Perhaps once a year a reasonable voice will rise up and meekly denounce Pat Robertson. This voice is usually lost in the drone of the biggots screaming for homosexual blood, or Muslim blood, or Wiccan blood, etc. So long as the reasonable voices remain a minority, you really shouldn't act shocked if those that are the object of the zealot's hatred wish to pitch all in the same camp.

In August of 1986, Pat Robertson suggested in the New York Magazine that it was time to exterminate non Christians. In 1987, Geroge Bush senior announced that he did not consider atheists to be patriots. In 2002 a high school in Waxahachie Tx suspended a Wiccan student for wearing her pentacle.

Robertson's words provoked the lethargic moderate Christians to voice concern, yet he continues to preach from the pulpit of bigotry. The superintendent in Waxahachie did an about face only after the ACLU was asked to represent the teen, and Bush was chastised by the American public by voting him President.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:07:07 AM

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Ok...

Theres dancing on a thread - and Levels on it?

Save the last dance for me Level!

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:16:51 AM

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"I think the Church of Satin is pathetic"

more a leather sorta guy? or pvc?

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:23:44 AM

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Get thee behind me, Satin.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:34:58 AM

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In perspective, I wouldn't say recent threads have been "Christian-bashing" - more healthy, critical discussion. It is simple why we focus on Christianity a) We have more knowledge on this particular religion compared with others b) It has helped to shape the people we are - these factors make Christianity an appropriate topic for discussion.

It is not healthy to label an analysis of the religion that has had such influence over the people we are as "Christian-bashing".

I would be the first to say there are some positive aspects of Christianity. The Anglican Church has been vociferous in opposing slaughtering people in Afghanistan and Iraq so hats off to them. But, let's call it right - if the Anglican Church wants the right to oversee our society then they have to earn this right and when they discriminate on the grounds of sexual persuasion in their own Church then they are not earning the right to have such an influence in our society.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:46:17 AM

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In perspective, I wouldn't say recent threads have been "Christian-bashing" - more healthy, critical discussion. It is simple why we focus on Christianity a) We have more knowledge on this particular religion compared with others b) It has helped to shape the people we are - these factors make Christianity an appropriate topic for discussion.

It is not healthy to label an analysis of the religion that has had such influence over the people we are as "Christian-bashing".

I would be the first to say there are some positive aspects of Christianity. The Anglican Church has been vociferous in opposing slaughtering people in Afghanistan and Iraq so hats off to them. But, let's call it right - if the Anglican Church wants the right to oversee our society then they have to earn this right and when they discriminate on the grounds of sexual persuasion in their own Church then they are not earning the right to have such an influence in our society.

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But I'm sure you'd agree that there has been Christian-bashing in the threads?

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 4:47:22 AM

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Ok...

Theres dancing on a thread - and Levels on it?

Save the last dance for me Level!

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 5:06:33 AM

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Honestly, I haven't seen any Christian-bashing. I have seen some forthright posts on the hypocracy of some people who label themselves Christians but support the US Government which is merrily leaving a trail of destruction in certain parts of the world. Personally, I wouldn't label this as Christian-bashing at all - more a sense of disbelief at what is going on in some people's minds.

Discussion should include critical analysis but remain fair - I'm yet to see a post that hasn't been fair when criticising religion and Christianity.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 5:20:29 AM

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I have tried in the past, in other places, to point out problems, atrocities, absurdities, and such in a civil tone, and have seen others do the same. Almost always we are accused of bashing, no matter how gently it is put. People don't like their beliefs to be presented in a negative manner, and become violently defensive when it happens. You point to a problem, and people ignore the problem, telling you that you are entitled to your opinion, as if pretending that facts are opinions makes them unaproachable for debate. The more you press the issue, the more hostile they become, and the louder they scream that you are bashing. Said it before, and i'll say it again... Mere fact does not the zealot sway.

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 5:24:31 AM

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Gent, I'm not sure if it was pulled or not, I can't find it, but there was one (not in this thread) about how if you killed most born-again Christians, you'd get rid of most white supremacists, child molesters, etc.... Crappy may have been using that warped sense of humor of his lol, but it came across as serious. And describing people that believe in a religion as "stupid, vulgar, delusional" is bashing, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't want to come across as holier-than-thou, I can be an ass, just like anyone else, but at least I make an effort to control it .

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 5:26:35 AM

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I have tried in the past, in other places, to point out problems, atrocities, absurdities, and such in a civil tone, and have seen others do the same. Almost always we are accused of bashing, no matter how gently it is put. People don't like their beliefs to be presented in a negative manner, and become violently defensive when it happens. You point to a problem, and people ignore the problem, telling you that you are entitled to your opinion, as if pretending that facts are opinions makes them unaproachable for debate. The more you press the issue, the more hostile they become, and the louder they scream that you are bashing. Said it before, and i'll say it again... Mere fact does not the zealot sway.

Quite true, BA. I've seen the same when critiquing some left-wingers, maybe they should file for tax-exempt status as a religion? LOL

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RE: Any other religion? - 8/27/2006 5:30:57 AM

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I have tried in the past, in other places, to point out problems, atrocities, absurdities, and such in a civil tone, and have seen others do the same. Almost always we are accused of bashing, no matter how gently it is put. People don't like their beliefs to be presented in a negative manner, and become violently defensive when it happens. You point to a problem, and people ignore the problem, telling you that you are entitled to your opinion, as if pretending that facts are opinions makes them unaproachable for debate. The more you press the issue, the more hostile they become, and the louder they scream that you are bashing. Said it before, and i'll say it again... Mere fact does not the zealot sway.

Quite true, BA. I've seen the same when critiquing some left-wingers, maybe they should file for tax-exempt status as a religion? LOL

Yep, and I should have been more clear. This mindset is by no means limited to religion. I've seen it in politics, humanitarian activism, in peer reviewed archaeology journals, and even in subsets of BDSM.

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