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Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:31:12 AM   
cuddleheart50


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Status: offline 		What are your thoughts on raising the minimum wage?

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:39:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		what is minimum wage now?

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:40:44 AM   
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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:43:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		cuddles, it should be raised, and tax breaks given to small business owners to  help them defray the extra costs. The worker gets more money, more money goes into society, and the owner isn't damaged.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		but when its raised, doesn't groceries and everything go up...it never evens out.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:48:28 AM   
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but it SHOULD be raised.



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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:49:15 AM   
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but when its raised, doesn't groceries and everything go up...it never evens out.


Do they?  Really, I don't know for sure.... would this be inflation?

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:56:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		People need a liveable wage.. which would probably be about $12.00 an hour if not more.  Most of those minimum wage jobs have no benefits.  So the people that work them are trying to raise families on about $210.00 a week give or take a few dollars.  They are without medical benefits, and those with kids have to pay for daycare on top of that.  And as those of us with kids know a good daycare provider is at least $80-100.00 a week.  These are the people that are doing the jobs that most people don't want to do.  I would like to see one of those congressmen or senators try to live on 9,600.00 a year and not have any of the perks and benefits they take for granted.  And you guys have to remember that congress voted themselves a 16k raise this year.  How many of them really need that money?

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:57:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		inflation sneaks up behind ya! i went to buy some tazo chai the other day and was sad to see the price at $4.49! when i purchased it more regularly last year it was at $3.99.

also, what are the minimum wages geared toward though? is there a reason that minimum wage is minimum wage???? (does that make sense?)

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 11:59:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		My job has no benefits, and thats what makes it so rough.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:00:31 PM   
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They are without medical benefits,


would this be the reason for medicaid and other govt. aid practices, such as wic and food stamps?

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:00:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Minimum wage here (California) is either 6.50 or 6.75. I'm incredibly glad they're raising it.

In my book, there's something wrong with the world when a woman is working full time for -more- than minimum wage and can't afford housing, food AND healthcare.

I made $7.75 all of last year. I worked 35 to 40 hours a week. I paid my rent and bills fine. I was able to get food, and I was almost always able to afford car costs. I couldn't, however, aford any kind of health care. So, working full time, I was still on federally subsidized healthcare. This is a problem in my book.

(And no, I couldn't find a higher paying job. I live in a college town where jobs are at a premium. The money I could have made going somewhere else didn't cover the cost of gas)


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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:00:47 PM   
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People need a liveable wage.. which would probably be about $12.00 an hour if not more.  Most of those minimum wage jobs have no benefits.  So the people that work them are trying to raise families on about $210.00 a week give or take a few dollars.  They are without medical benefits, and those with kids have to pay for daycare on top of that.  And as those of us with kids know a good daycare provider is at least $80-100.00 a week.  These are the people that are doing the jobs that most people don't want to do.  I would like to see one of those congressmen or senators try to live on 9,600.00 a year and not have any of the perks and benefits they take for granted.  And you guys have to remember that congress voted themselves a 16k raise this year.  How many of them really need that money?


None of them need that money, kat, and it disgusts me that they keep giving themselves a raise.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:01:55 PM   
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They are without medical benefits,


would this be the reason for medicaid and other govt. aid practices, such as wic and food stamps?



There's a problem with medicare and some other aid. There are many, many people who make too much to qualify for aid, but not enough to get healthcare of their own. It's a horrible catch 22. You -want- to work, so you don't have to rely on someone else, but if you work too much, youcan't get the help that you need.


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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:04:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Minimum wage is iirc the bare amount of income that an individual must earn to be outside of the poverty line. Problem is that the poverty line gets raised every year and the minimum wage hasn't changed in a decade. Anyone with a calculator can see that $5.15 is below that line and at least here in Houston it should be about $7.00. Anyone can scrape by at seven bucks an hour.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:05:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I work 50 to 60 hours a week(have to, to pay the bills) get paid 7.00 an hour, no benefits, no health insurance, and I make TOO much money to quailfy for aid!  Whats wrong with this picture!!!

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:06:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		ah, i see. i do remember my grandfather being in a similar predicament with his meds and the medicare thing. my mother ended up footing the bill alot of times for his meds.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:08:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		The problem with a minimum wage is that when you raise it the prices go up.  therefore it becomes mission impossible to maintain a liveable wage based upon minimum wage.  I live in a right to work state so your wages are usually less than other places like Cali.  The prices for goods and services are, at least my experience, lower.    I believe that it was Santa Cruz that made it's minimum wage about triple the national.  Course a Big Mac was triple the cost of anywhere else that I went.

I personally think that wages should be based upon experience, location, etc.   I worked in a municipal system that picked its wages based upon the wages of 7 other cities (the best paying citites in the state).  Worked well for us, but we made twice the prevailing wage for the area for the same jobs.   I am also in favor of meritt raises (if they are fairly adminstered).

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:08:53 PM   
surly


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Status: offline 		how often does the wage increase? seems to me like it should be an annual increase as in most government jobs.

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RE: Minimum Wage - 8/27/2006 12:10:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		tell Me what difference in raising the minimum rasie would do... you will get paid more an hour yes...but then the cost of living will increase so in the long run where is the benefit?

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