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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:26:01 AM   
Homestead


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> Yet, I do not expect someone else to fix the
> problems that I have. Only I can do that.
 

Not everyone can pick themselves up by their
bootstraps.  There is nothing wrong with
needing people.   It is overly negative to
believe only you can fix your problems. 
Most people need help from others.  Do
you really fix your own car?  Most people
need love.  People who are satisfied
with their own love are narcissists.  It is

quite normal for people to need others.


How well did that idea work in you 'fixing' those cokeheads dude? Don't I recall you leaving them in the dust?

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:29:43 AM   
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Whip, you're right about comedians being cynical!
But some can be cynical and incredably funny too!
Remember the late great Rodney Dangerfield?

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:33:26 AM   
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> Life IS as good as you make it popeye. And a lot of
> that simply involves making good choices.
 
You can make all the best choices in the world and still
have a miserable life.  We are not masters of our own
destiny.  If you were born in N. Korea, you'd have quite
a different life no matter what choices you made.  If you
were born in a black ghetto to an immature, abusive14-
year old, uneducated, drug-addicted, single mother your
life would be quite different.  If you were born to super-rich
parents and suddenly found yourself penniless, you
might have a rough life no matter what choices you
made.


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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:36:08 AM   
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Good choices in one environment are bad choices
in another.  Only someone omniscient can always
make good choices.    Good choices often turn out
to be bad choices.  

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:40:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip

Good choices in one environment are bad choices
in another.  Only someone omniscient can always
make good choices.    Good choices often turn out
to be bad choices.  


Now who is being the cynic?

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:41:42 AM   
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Whip, you're right about comedians being cynical!
But some can be cynical and incredably funny too!
Remember the late great Rodney Dangerfield?


Rodney was great. Comedy comes from us laughing at our shortcomings. I think it's healthy to be forced to look at, and overcome them. And the humor takes away a bit og the sting, and makes it easier.


< Message edited by Homestead -- 9/1/2006 9:42:27 AM >

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:41:52 AM   
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quote:

There is nothing wrong with
needing people.

Hmm, never did I say that there was anything wrong with needing someone.
quote:

  It is overly negative to
believe only you can fix your problems.


I disagree. It's unrealistic to expect someone else to 'fix' you. Each individual must first decide to do that for themselves.
quote:

  Do
you really fix your own car?


Umm, actually, yes I do. In addition to that, I can also repair or put on a brand new roof ( if one is needed ), repair plumbing, repair electrical, build an addition to my house. That's not to say that I would be stupid enough to do so on my own, but...I have the knowledge, and I have the xp to do so if I need to.
quote:

  Most people
need love. 


Define love please.
If you are speaking of romantic love...then no, that is not something that I NEED. It's nice to have, but it is not something that is required to exist.
Now, on the other side of the coin...I have the love of friends that I treasure dearly. But again, it is not something that I NEED to exist.
quote:

  It is
quite normal for people to need others

Again, I do not see where I was disputing that. Please be kind enough point out where I did.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:42:22 AM   
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Whip, very true!
That's why at Thanksgiving dinner I always say I'm thankfull for....."Freedom!"

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:45:16 AM   
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>  I can be extremely "needy", but I also want to feel appreciated.

I love subs who are extremely "needy" and want to feel appreciated.
That is exactly the kind of sub I am looking for, and not for the
reasons a cynic might think.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:48:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Homestead

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Whip, you're right about comedians being cynical!
But some can be cynical and incredably funny too!
Remember the late great Rodney Dangerfield?


Rodney was great. Comedy comes from us laughing at our shortcomings. I think it's healthy to be forced to look at, and overcome them. And the humor takes away a bit og the sting, and makes it easier.



Yes, a good thought to always keep in mind...not to take life so seriously.  Ah i love RodneyD!  Now off to the diving board, to practice the favorite "triple lindi" (sp) and win the gold...*grin

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:50:11 AM   
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> Why are you accusing a member of this board of wife beating, which is a crime?
Are you trying to make a bad, blond joke? > I do not date bisexuals  I do.   I love bisexuals.    By the way, I recall a female in this thread claiming she is bi, and in a monogamous relationshipwith a male.   Many sub's fear a switch-dom will go all subbie on themis not justified for all switchs.   

< Message edited by WhipTheHip -- 9/1/2006 9:52:46 AM >

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 9:57:59 AM   
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> How well did that idea work in you 'fixing' those cokeheads
> dude? Don't I recall you leaving them in the dust?

B&W thinking.  Just because you can't help most drug
addicts does not mean you can't help most people.  I
don't leave anyone in the dust.


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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:00:13 AM   
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Not all comedians are cynics, but many cynics are
witty comedians. 

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:03:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

Homestead: I think that's fine.

WhiptheHip: Yes, they can sometimes be amusing, although maybe because I see through a lot more than I sometimes let on, a lot of the time, I see that wittiness as a sheer cover for an under-current of depressive lack of hope and disappointment they've not been able to deal with. It usually makes me want to run, unless they've got a "handle on it" and don't try to drag me into what I see as their cock-eyed worldview as well.

I think life should be fun. I've got working brain cells, and can find reasons to not trust the world. I don't see being with someone who thinks it's not, or can't be, fun anyway - and who can't ever let their guard down. I don't care what their reasons are. I spent 15 years with someone who wouldn't let the rest of the world in. That was enough for my lifetime. I've had some truly gut-wrenching life experiences - as has almost everyone. I've had a lot of support to deal with some of them (not all) and I still think life is something that can be enjoyed without suspecting everyone is untrustworthy. This does not, in my estimation, make me an idiot. I am relatively happy - and being happy is one of my goals in life.  

- Susan


Susan, correctomundo! That's what it's all about, being *HAPPY* in life! Doing FUN things, travelling, being around nice people!
Wow! It sounds like those "15 years" wearn't that happy at all. I mean you must have had some happy times during all that.
I just don't like being around "negative" people, too many of them in my family so I distanced myself from them.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:09:25 AM   
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> How well did that idea work in you 'fixing' those cokeheads
> dude? Don't I recall you leaving them in the dust?

B&W thinking.  Just because you can't help most drug
addicts does not mean you can't help most people.  I
don't leave anyone in the dust.




But you did give up on them. They didn't want help.they wanted to be enabled to go on as they were.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:13:13 AM   
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On that note I'm going to take a ride down to the beach and watch the big waves rolling in from that storm Ernest yesterday.
Now that will be fun!

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:21:16 AM   
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I think whatsisname is a fake profile, set up by someone to have a lark.

"Everything is as follows:."

"Based on what?"

"I never said that."

"Yes you did.  Here:  Quote"

"You're misreading that."



Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea.  I just wish I was in on the joke.

Yours,


benji



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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:37:08 AM   
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I think whatsisname is a fake profile, set up by someone to have a lark.

"Everything is as follows:."

"Based on what?"

"I never said that."

"Yes you did.  Here:  Quote"

"You're misreading that."

Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea.  I just wish I was in on the joke.


ROTFLMMFAO.........

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 10:50:07 AM   
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> I would not want a dominant that switches.  I would be pissed if
> someone lied to me about this. I do consider it a lie
 
Not all switches have to switch.  You may meet a dom
who was a bottom few times in their life or a sub
a few times in their life, and you would never know it.
Then after 50 years of a wonderful marriage, you would
discover the truth from some old letter you found in his
possession and realize your whole marriage was a lie. 
Oh, the horror of it!


Someone who lied to me would not get to marry me, and I would not be happy with them.. you can make all sorts of statements, but they really only apply to your own personal concept of reality, and they have no basis of reality to me.. a liar is a liar

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/1/2006 12:31:28 PM   
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I think benji has nailed our cynical idealist.

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