|
amayos -> RE: Forced! (9/2/2006 12:01:03 PM)
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: LotusSong
Ok.. then please explain to me where it is NOT fantasy.. where at one point you did not decide to offer your submission, orchestate the situation and allow it to happen.
Unless you were surprised with an activity you didn't know you would like.
I thought Doctor D's non-related examples were very good ones, actually. Did you read them?
As for meeting your challenge of providing examples of offering my submission in the way I speak of, I cannot. Are you aware I am dominant? This makes it difficult for me to switch into the likeness you request and recount tales by the fireside. I can tell you, however, that having aspired for slavery in my younger days, I know I was beyond heavy on the idea, and it was the irreversible reality—not the fantasy—that was an aspired for destination. I suspect others reading in this forum might feel the same way. If so, it would be nice to hear from them, even though I know we probably will not. Many do not take kindly to the idea that what they do and feel can be waved away as mere fantasy, so I respect the sound of crickets at the same time.
With that said, I do recall stating not wanting to share gory details about my experiences in dominance to this end. Did you read that, too? If so, I can only assume you're goading me on to provide a glimpse from my own world. If you don't recall me writing that, perhaps your eyes have been glazing over the previous philosophical discourse, and if so, no amount of explaining on my part will make any difference. I'm not here to convince you, but offer, perhaps, even just a few fragments of possibility in your mind to the contrary of what I feel is a supposition you've arrived upon—not an ultimate answer about choosing to be forced.
As for a real-life example from my life, I will provide a very basic, uncreative one, and that will be all. Please understand that I don't want to marble this thread with Amayos Erotica.
To begin, I enjoy pouncing upon a girl and biting her, or pinning her elbows to the floor with my knees and striking her face to my content. I like to smother, too, and my slave hated and loved the asphyxiation resulting from my sitting upon her face. Her loyalty was such, however, that she would do literally anything to please me, a claim tested more than once and in different ways (purposefully being vague). Cuffed, collared and leashed to my bed, she would be commanded to lay on the floor upon her back, and I would disrobe and straddle her face, blocking all her air passages, to wait (quite erect, I might add). She eventually would run out of air and yell out from beneath me, but I of course wouldn't budge, except to tighten my hold. She wouldn't move, either, until her body—overriding her higher brain and calling itself automatically to arms—began to buck and convulse...and quite violently, too. In fact, her body, in this state of real, fleshly alarm, would fight me with a strength that could only be derived from an emergency adrenaline rush, and despite my good effort, found a way to wrest itself from me for a slip of precious air. After catching her breath, she would immediately apologize for the rudeness of struggling and having to breath. How adorable.
Is this an example of force being used to completion? No, and I would never want it to be, for obvious reasons. But is it a mild example of a human being allowing itself to be forced, if only for a short while, before instinctual resistance? Yes. A choice was made to submit to force—that choice being to accept any force, so long as it pleased me and until I bumped up against her reptile limitations. And the choice to respect those limitations were solely at my discretion, I might add. Thank you in advance for not pulling out your SSC badges.
But considering the matter of choice and force in a more general sense, I see many areas where choice to be forced applies. For an extreme and current event example, the suicide bomber in the middle east chooses to wrap explosives around himself and detonate his body—which will be destroyed by the force of the explosion.
Layn Steeley, despite a deep understanding of his path to self destruction, eventually died as a result of a heroin addiction. Anyone addicted to anything, at some point, makes a choice to submit to the force of that addiction and allow it to continue, though its continuance may have grave consequences. One need only read Steeley's moving lyrics to see he understood exactly where he was going.
Even considering masochism, can one not say a masochist makes a choice to be forced, even if that force is self-inflected? A bullwhip will certainly force your skin apart with enough throw—despite your skin's natural inclination to stay intact—and there are a majority of people in our world of six billion who could not possibly understand why anyone would ever choose to allow that, but some do, and a percentage choose it for no other reason than the sensation itself in the ambience of fetish clubs. Branding, cutting and other forms of force come to mind as well, but I will leave that to the imagination.
But you know, if you really want to take the idea to a macro philosophical level, with a little bit of thought on the matter you start to see how the argument that one cannot choose to be forced weakens, in the very least. A great percentage of the American public on average refuses to take part in elections. Their omission of choice is a passive decision to go with the flow, wherever that flow bodes for their social and economic wellbeing. They have, in a very real sense, elected to not elect, which is literally deciding to allow whatever powers may be decide for them. On its logical face, there is no excuse for not voting, or staying abreast of the goings-on in politics. Citing that the system is corrupt and it's a futile gesture is not an excuse, whatsoever. By bearing witness to the problem, you should, in good conscience and in the logical interest of your own wellbeing, try then to correct it. But many don't, despite their full understanding of the choice they're making.
I realize some of these examples (as well as those provided by others) fall outside the realm of the personal subjugation we're speaking of, though in considering the nature of their extremity, one cannot help but respect the human being for its capacity to willfully supercede logic or its natural prime biological directive of preservation. Be it conscription, addiction, masochism or the sacrifice of an acolyte or warrior, I believe choice to be forced can and does happen every single day on this planet.
As I've stated already, I can indeed see the argument from both sides. There are nearly equally convincing arguments both camps make. However, I believe it is sometimes unwise or unhealthy for our thought process to get into the habit of discounting possibility, particularly in something as vast and complex as human nature. Personal subjugation and the question of its authenticity is one of those subjects, indeed.
|
|
|
|
