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angelic -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 11:36:41 AM)

well this thread can be turned anyway you choose to turn it... (it's not an emotional one for me... it's educational)... i didn't intend to specify strictly in a Master/slave (only 2 involved) scenerio... what i am trying (although poorly, apparently) is that regardless of who you are.... you DO have limits and the blanket statement 'i am a no-limit slave' (assuming that said slave of course is not bound, chained and gagged 24/7)... does not (imo at this moment), exist. 




Homestead -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 11:51:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

well this thread can be turned anyway you choose to turn it... (it's not an emotional one for me... it's educational)... i didn't intend to specify strictly in a Master/slave (only 2 involved) scenerio... what i am trying (although poorly, apparently) is that regardless of who you are.... you DO have limits and the blanket statement 'i am a no-limit slave' (assuming that said slave of course is not bound, chained and gagged 24/7)... does not (imo at this moment), exist. 


Saying that one has no limits is an absurd generalization, intended to puff up an ego.  When I see it, I scoff. It simply means that somoene is expressing an emotive content ,tied to compliance of a Top's wishes.

I prefer those who can express themselves without such a degree of slip-shod laziness.




velvetears -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 11:53:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

Fact or fiction?  Where does 'no limits' (assuming such exists) stop being simply BDSM, M/s or D/s and become out and out abuse?  i am not trying to start a flame war, here... i truly want to know what others think. 


i don't believe anyone has "no limits" they maybe sincerely believe they do, but somewhere down the line they will perhaps be faced with a situation where they find their "limit" Somehow this idea of "no limits" seems to be a romanticized ideal that many buy into thinking that if they adhere to this policy it will somehow make being a "slave" more concrete or real to them. 

Two consenting adults can basically do what they want and it's by and large not anyone elses business.  When things begin to enter the "illegal" realm i would say there is a problem.  i personally would intervene is a slave tried to take her own life because her Master told her to - as i also stated in another thread.  Certain lines must be drawn - i think death is one.  i am all for staying out of peoples personal business and to each their own, but in all good consciousness i could not stand by while someone died in the name of obeying their Master. Im my opinion, he ceases to be a "Master" at that point and becomes a psychopath. If that makes me unpopular so be it. i am the one who in the morning has to wake up and look at myself in the mirror and like who i see. 




angelic -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:14:21 PM)

i agree velvet... however, having said that... i believe (and it's just me)... that there are much worse things than death... (in some instances i can see where it might be the cowardly way out).....although i truly do understand where you are coming from and agree...




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:14:54 PM)

http://www.collarchat.com/m_510343/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#511301
trust and hard limits

http://www.collarchat.com/m_389590/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#389614
accepting of hard limits

http://www.collarchat.com/m_388223/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#388233
Would you make your slave?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_354868/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#354900
Fears Limits and Childhood

http://www.collarchat.com/m_325780/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#326351
A question

http://www.collarchat.com/m_309485/mpage_2/key_limits/tm.htm#310016
Your hard limits are how hard?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_305935/mpage_8/key_limits/tm.htm#309073
No limit slaves

http://www.collarchat.com/m_194581/mpage_1/key_limits/tm.htm#194585
limits/no limits




perverseangelic -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:22:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

Let's say it isn't fiction... that there are no limit slaves. (Not my opinion, but for the sake of argument)
 
That means NO LIMITS. Right? So, you and I might think it abuse, but the slave has willingly given themselves over, right? If the slave and dominant don't think it is abuse, does anyone else have the right to override their wishes?


Yes, depending on the circumstances. If she's agreed to this via coercion, or if she's not mentally stable when she aggrees. If she aggrees as a result of past abuse, missunderstadning, etc. If she agrees without giving informed consent, we're, in my book, obligated to overried.

If she consents with full controll of mind and body and knowing what she's saying, then it's her right as long as  that agreement doesn't hurt anyone else.




rahul1722006 -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:39:50 PM)

hi angelic
i m rahul , i really want to lick ur sandals
i want to be ur pet dog
i will be ur chair also for sitting
do u like to hav a slave like me
i m very hopeful
pls don,t say no n just give me order.




rahul1722006 -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:40:59 PM)

hi lucky albat rose
i m rahul , i really want to lick ur sandals
i want to be ur pet dog
i will be ur chair also for sitting
do u like to hav a slave like me
i m very hopeful
pls don,t say no n just give me order.




Level -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:43:03 PM)

Someone order rahul to get the hell out of here lol.
 
rahul............... this isn't the place to be horny.




bandit25 -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:58:40 PM)

Just like in the other thread, I find it hard to believe that there are no limit anythings.  But whatever. 




angelic -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 12:58:57 PM)

ROFLMAO... well rahul did provide a bit of comic relief! [8D]

~edited cuz i can't type fer shit today~




lauren0221 -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:01:04 PM)

Well, i was going to offer to be Rahul's no limit slave:)




mstrjx -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:16:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lauren0221

Well, i was going to offer to be Rahul's no limit slave:)


No, Lauren, not possible.

It seems by the end of the day he'll already have two Mistresses.  But nice try!

Jeff




mistoferin -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:19:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rahul1722006

hi lucky albat rose
i m rahul , i really want to lick ur sandals
i want to be ur pet dog
i will be ur chair also for sitting
do u like to hav a slave like me
i m very hopeful
pls don,t say no n just give me order.


Here ya go LA....last chance to go steady!!!! [;)]




amayos -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:33:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

Fact or fiction? Where does 'no limits' (assuming such exists) stop being simply BDSM, M/s or D/s and become out and out abuse? i am not trying to start a flame war, here... i truly want to know what others think.

No matter the context of the term, I think it is a somewhat strange idea to attempt distilling "abuse" from "slavery." Those who see the validity of that argument, in my opinion, should not be seeking slavery or identifying with it.





Homestead -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:36:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amayos

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelic

Fact or fiction? Where does 'no limits' (assuming such exists) stop being simply BDSM, M/s or D/s and become out and out abuse? i am not trying to start a flame war, here... i truly want to know what others think.

No matter the context of the term, I think it is a somewhat strange idea to attempt distilling "abuse" from "slavery." Those who see the validity of that argument, in my opinion, should not be seeking slavery or identifying with it.




Amayos? Some will call you "abusive" if you only let them have ten pairs of shoes.[:D]




amayos -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:42:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Homestead

Amayos? Some will call you "abusive" if you only let them have ten pairs of shoes.[:D]



Imelda Marcos will certainly agree with that.




Homestead -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:46:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: amayos

quote:

ORIGINAL: Homestead

Amayos? Some will call you "abusive" if you only let them have ten pairs of shoes.[:D]



Imelda Marcos will certainly agree with that.


That's my code name for a shoe freak,"imelda".[:D]




angelic -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:56:58 PM)

well, amayos... that is your right...
~my ego is not dependent upon your opinion~ [:D]




mstrjx -> RE: "No Limits Slave" (9/4/2006 1:59:05 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Homestead

That's my code name for a shoe freak,"imelda".[:D]


Wow, what does that make me?




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