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mnottertail -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (12/13/2006 8:15:43 AM)
anyone with a breath in their body can pursue, but can you catch them? That seems to me to be the crux of the matter. Ron

MsNashville -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 7:06:56 AM)
I will say my view on the financial aspect has changed after seeing how many will want to take up your time online. When they ask how they may serve online they can't, not anything that is of benefit to Me as my real time pet can be. It will become them selfishly wanting your time for their purpose if you are not careful. I wish all well in whatever capacity they have chosen in the lifestyle and agree that time is money because we each only have so many hours in a day. Ms Nashville

TigressFL -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 8:38:59 AM)
I would be beyond embarassed if I needed someone to support me financially lol I simply wouldn't happen as long as I am physically able to support myself! There are plenty of people out here that are not out for financial gain! Tigress~FL

Bonafied -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 9:08:29 AM)
BlkTallFullfig, writes: "so not pursuing isn't always about fearing rejection. I simply wanted to say that some of us don't do the pursuing simply because it is not how we work. M" I have read many comments on this site and quite frankly the obvious appears to escape most. Many of us pursue discriminately…or not at all.

HutchGarahl -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 10:23:16 AM)
K, i'm a bit late coming into this convo, but here's my view... Yes, I take full control over all finances. Just remember though, just because a dom does this, doesn't neccessarily mean they are money grabbers. I do it for reasons... Anyone who lives in my home must help with household finances....electricity, water, food, phone..ect. You help use, you help pay. It's only fair. As long as I have control over finances...I know your portion is being paid. I've had too many instances where I got told, "I don't have because", and they turn up with a new toy or something. A portion is set aside each month for personal hygeine stuff.....soap, shampoos, makeup for the girls, razors..ect. Most of it is set into what I call a kitty. This is for emergency purposes. If my slave has a car, something goes wrong, there is money to fix it. I'm not rich, so the help is needed. Or any other emergency. The kitty is also set so if at anytime I make a decision to release someone, there is money for them to fall back on and to care for themself. I will do my best to find them one a new master, but if I can't..least they can support themself.

DominaRava -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 10:56:35 AM)
This is an area where I have found myself on both sides of the fence. chuckle I once had a boy offer me $400 to jerk off in front of me. Nothing more, nothing less. Did I take it? Of course! I recently relocated to a new area. In my journal, I posted a few things I 'needed' locally. I was surprised to find any one responded, then surprised by the types of responses. I actually met with several of the people. Did any of them atually provide or mean to provide service? One. I can and do mow my own yard, clean my own house, cook my own food, pay my own rent, work in my own shed, pay my own bills, bath myself, do my own nails. I have been asked, wouldn't you wear high heels for appearance sake? No, they are painful.....end of that telephonic call basically. I expect that if I have to work, anyone in my household will to, if anyone gets to stay home, it should be me. My point? I have been outright told that it isn't about service, what about my sadistic side? Now, while I admit it can be strong, I ask, isn't it about more than scratching your itch than mine? What about my sexual needs? I have no problem picking out or up a sexual partner. Bless you, if you are married in a vanilla relationship, love your spouse, and need kink release, you are not available for me at my times, but at your convenience. . In such a case, tribute, definitely! I was not blessed into a wealthy family, nor did I marry into one. There have been no inheritances. Just years of obligations and caring for the family while they lived. I can and do take care of myself, and if you are not seeking service, you are seeking just the kink. I am then meeting your needs, and you can provide for some things I want to have, but don't, by paying for my time. Perhaps, just perhaps, I will buy the home I want with those funds. Is there anything wrong with this attitude? Not a bloody thing! Every person who works in this world sells their services. If one can supplement their income by doing what they are good at, or adore, then is it wrong? Tiger Woods does pretty well with a game. People will pay for what they want. Call it tribute, call it a gift, but for the laws, there would be no problem with calling it anything. Service can and is for the comfort and amusement of the Dominant. Sadly for society, comfort, hell, basic living, requires money. A friend once told me, go ahead, take his money (the 400), if you don't someone else will. Will I continue to look for what I want, full time, collared? Absolutely! Will they contribute financially? Absolutely! (although at present time I am fed up with it, part of the cycle as it were) Will I continue to see tribute as perfectly fine? Absolutely! It is only my opinion, but I live with my opinions.

BayouSub -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 1:26:34 PM)
quote: I would be beyond embarassed if I needed someone to support me financially lol I simply wouldn't happen as long as I am physically able to support myself! There are plenty of people out here that are not out for financial gain! Tigress~FL I think Pro Domme is a perfectly legitimate profession It’s appropriate for a person rendering a service to charge for it as long as it is understood by both parties that there will be a fee. I would never use the services of a Pro Domme because if I’m paying for it I am in charge and that’s not what I’m seeking. Of course, that's just me and many submissive males are very happy with the services of a professional dominant. I may not be the typical submissive male but I would have a difficult time submitting to a non-disabled woman who could not support herself. I don’t pass any judgments and I don’t intend to insult anyone but, for me at least, depending on your submissive for support is inconsistent with being a strong, dominant woman. What I’m seeking is the woman who, to borrow Tigress~Fl’s words, "would be beyond embarrassed if [she] needed someone to support [her] financially." As I stated above, I have no problem with someone rendering a service and being paid for it. However, I also believe that there should be no deception. Calling something a tribute or gift does not change the essential nature of the transaction.

Jasmyn -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 6:20:25 PM)
quote: would never use the services of a Pro Domme because if I’m paying for it I am in charge and that’s not what I’m seeking. If you will never and/or have never used the services of a Pro Domina then how the hell do you know who is in charge? I can state, as can a great deal of my clientel over the years, the one in charge of their paid for session in my dungeon is and never will be in doubt. This isn't a total dig at you Bayousub, but this idea that money changing hands makes the sub the one in control is a fallacy often thrust upon Pro Doms and their submissive clients by people who by their own admission are ignorant of what happens during a paid session. Does a paying submissive come to see me with a list of wants and needs ... no more so than the non paying submissive.

AAkasha -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 6:30:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BayouSub quote: I would be beyond embarassed if I needed someone to support me financially lol I simply wouldn't happen as long as I am physically able to support myself! There are plenty of people out here that are not out for financial gain! Tigress~FL I think Pro Domme is a perfectly legitimate profession It’s appropriate for a person rendering a service to charge for it as long as it is understood by both parties that there will be a fee. I would never use the services of a Pro Domme because if I’m paying for it I am in charge and that’s not what I’m seeking. Of course, that's just me and many submissive males are very happy with the services of a professional dominant. I may not be the typical submissive male but I would have a difficult time submitting to a non-disabled woman who could not support herself. I don’t pass any judgments and I don’t intend to insult anyone but, for me at least, depending on your submissive for support is inconsistent with being a strong, dominant woman. What I’m seeking is the woman who, to borrow Tigress~Fl’s words, "would be beyond embarrassed if [she] needed someone to support [her] financially." As I stated above, I have no problem with someone rendering a service and being paid for it. However, I also believe that there should be no deception. Calling something a tribute or gift does not change the essential nature of the transaction. A talented and exceptional professional dominatrix has the luxury of turning away any potential client with a "wish list" or tendency to try to pay for exactly what he wants. I've done pay-for-play over the phone from time to time, and in my mid 20s when I did it a lot, I was still in control despite being paid. Because I could turn down any guy that didn't float my boat, or end a call and send him somewhere else if he was topping from the bottom. I had guys offering me double, triple my rate to do a call with them, but if they didn't put their fantasies aside and let me indulge in my own, I sent them on their way - no meant NO. Many men pay for the privledge to NOT have control, and professionals know how to handle this. A key factor to make this dynamic work is supply and demand, talent and skill. I wasn't doing phone sessions to make a living - I already had a normal job. I didn't need the money so desperately that I'd waste a half hour of my time playing make believe. Exceptional pro femdoms have their pick also; it's just as easy to send a whiny, demanding, "do me" submissive down the street for the half priced hooker with a whip. Akasha

HutchGarahl -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/14/2007 6:40:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DominaRava This is an area where I have found myself on both sides of the fence. chuckle I once had a boy offer me $400 to jerk off in front of me. Nothing more, nothing less. Did I take it? Of course! LOL! I don't blame ya. I would have to. Person would be a fool not to. That's gotta be the easier $400 ever. :P

BayouSub -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/15/2007 9:07:20 AM)
Ms. Jasmyn, I very carefully wrote my post to make it clear that I have no problem with Pro Dommes although I have no interest in their services. I did state that I feel that the Domme’s control is lost when I am paying her. However, you somewhat misquoted me by not including the next sentence where I made it clear that this was just me and many submissive men enjoy the services of a Pro Domme and don’t seem to have the control issue that I do. My post was in no way anti-Pro Domme but was rather aimed at deception and self-deception. In that regard, I have read your profile. Although your post indicates that you are definitely a Pro, that fact is never explicitly stated in your profile (although I could discern it by reading between the lines.) In reviewing profiles, I find that most Pro Dommes reveal that fact explicitly in the first couple of paragraphs and I believe that is proper. That way, those not interested in hiring a professional can move on. After all, if you are a Pro, why be coy about it in your profile?

Jasmyn -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/15/2007 10:06:15 AM)
Bayousub, as I qualified in my post, my words were not a dig at you, but the perception of professional domination you hold, as it is something every pro dom has heard before and every pro dom worthy of the profession knows it to be a fallacy. Your post was just a platform I used bounce off so I could make my point....don't take it personally. As for why I don't state in my profile that I also work commercially? I'm here to pick up a life partner not to pick up sessions.

Jaded2005 -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/16/2007 10:48:09 AM)
Okay, you meet a woman who catches your fancy. You take her to coffee $5.00 Things start to get interesting a diner is next. So, pre dinner cocktails $30.00-40.00 Dinner with wine and after dinner drinks. So, you just racked up another $100.00-135.00. Now add the cost of gas to and from. Your looking at $200.00 or so and you might just get a kiss on the cheek. Do the math. Above all that, you didn't get laid either. Pricele$$

BayouSub -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/16/2007 12:45:56 PM)
quote: Okay, you meet a woman who catches your fancy. You take her to coffee $5.00 Things start to get interesting a diner is next. So, pre dinner cocktails $30.00-40.00 Dinner with wine and after dinner drinks. So, you just racked up another $100.00-135.00. Now add the cost of gas to and from. Your looking at $200.00 or so and you might just get a kiss on the cheek. Do the math. Above all that, you didn't get laid either. Pricele$$ --Jaded2005 I have spent that much taking a woman out and ended the night with a kiss on the cheek. I've also spent less than that and ended up in her bed for the night. As the commercial says, results may vary. I do, however, appreciate the humor in your post. Priceless. If men on this board want to be seperated from their money as a form of domination, more power to them. Some might think that they are being taken advantage of but I think an adult male has a right to make his own decisions in that regard. I do, however, note the warning contained on collarme.com: DO NOT SEND MONEY TO OTHER USERS FOR ANY REASON! Read about Common Scams for important safety information BayouSub

Aswad -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/16/2007 2:09:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissyRane but honey I thought you broke it? or was that another one? You have these spoons in stocks????? Wood breaks all the time, as does some types of plastic. If I were using them for that purpose, I'd definitely stock up.

kc692 -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (4/16/2007 9:24:23 PM)
No offense but jsut a bit late, someone saw fit to resurrect a very old thread!!!!!!

nepahouseslave -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (9/1/2007 11:41:27 AM)
Masturbating for you for the $400 tribute was wonderful . I often think back about that session.

MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (9/1/2007 12:14:41 PM)
You had to bump an old thread to let everyone know this? Next time, try a Hallmark card.

kc692 -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (9/1/2007 4:27:17 PM)
I'm betting its just a smartass wishing it was him.

Politesub53 -> RE: The great gift/tribute/money domme question (9/1/2007 4:54:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nepahouseslave Masturbating for you for the $400 tribute was wonderful . I often think back about that session. Maybe he found a Domina to pay him $400 to masturbate ? How cool is that... Queue to the right boys. [8D]

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