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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 9:10:26 AM

SirDominic

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Awhile back we had a thread on Orientals, now Blacks; seems to me it says a lot about us as a society that these discussions even come up. Is it because, in the US at least, the scene is predominantly whites?

Come to think of it, it would be very interesting to see a census done of what percentages there are of the different races into fetish.

Just don't recall that being one of the options on the last US Census we had. Write your representatives!

Sir Dominic

p.s. For the record, I don't care if women are white, black, green, grey or pink with purple polkadots. If we find each other compatible and the interest and attitude is there, I'm ready to Rock 'N Roll.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 9:52:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: Contesaluv. I think we're all supposed to mix and blend into one race sooner or later anyway, no? Just my thoughts.

Maybe eventually we will, I find that concept interesting. I think some of the most beautiful people in the world are of mixed races.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 1:35:50 PM

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I'd kill for a Black woman who loved big doses of the hairbrush...

First girl I ever kissed was Black. Still recall it was the best kiss I ever shared.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 1:44:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Contesaluv

I think we're all supposed to mix and blend into one race sooner or later anyway, no?

We are all one race. If humans were to classify ourselfs the same way we do other animals, we would all be diffrent breeds, but only one race.

If you can't tell the whole, 'we are diffrent races' has always been a very outdated (thanks to the Spanish) mindset IMO.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 1:50:16 PM

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Allright, now personally I don't have a racial preference in my relationships, I have had men and women of all different colors, shapes, sizes, ages, and orientations come in and out of my life, but I must admit, my favorite PICTURES have always been ones that contrast white skin and black skin..... wether it's sexual pictures from my own life, or ann geedes's pic of a white baby being held by a beautiful blackman with no shirt on.....

And there's a certain lady on these forums with a pic of her and her masters hands together that is unbelivably beautiful to me. *winks at a certain redhead*

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 1:52:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton
I'd kill for a Black woman who loved big doses of the hairbrush...

First girl I ever kissed was Black. Still recall it was the best kiss I ever shared.

I'm game if you'll be on the receiving end!

P.S. I've not read the rest of the thread, and have nothing intelligent to add. M

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 2:07:06 PM

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LOL, sadly I've never been nor never will be a switch.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 3:45:46 PM

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I'm on the other side of the coin as well. I'm caucasian. My Master is African American.

All I know is that once I met him - and I mean from day one...while it took us two years to get this meeting stuff down right...I've never really looked at anyone else. My preference was for those who were Black. Course, my preference was also for men who sported goatees. In the end, it's not, nor has it ever been a fetish of skin color. It's my fetish for him. And that's been growing at exponential rates from the first moment we spoke.

During insecure times when I wonder about our relationship, it just dowright scares me to contemplate searching for anyone else. I've tried to imagine doing so and I just can't. At this point in my life - no one measures up to the person who decided he wanted me.

He makes me believe in God

Cause every day, regardless of the amount of pigmentation he or I have, I thank God for allowing me to be a part of his life, and for granting me the opportunity to have him be a part of mine.

juliet

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 4:19:42 PM

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I find that the dynamic of serving my White Master is such a heady experience. I'm drawn, by nature to white doms and Masters. Though some Doms tend to be drawn to that "old south" dynamic, that really isn't my draw. I'm curious as to how many white Doms enjoy having a black submissive. My experience is that we are rare -- that there are plenty of submissive white men who enjoy serving a black female dominant, but that isn't me.

I'm curious as to how many white doms like black submissives out there!!

Let me here from you!

Well, Noir, I can't say for sure how I feel about that, being a sub all my life...however, having just moments ago reviewing your photo, I have to say I feel compelled to say...."take you clothes off...get in the damn kitchen and make me some damn FOOD woman!"

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 4:54:19 PM

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i'm a black daughter/sub for a white Daddy/Dom and i had 2 former Doms who are white as well. i don't meet too many black men who are Doms (and vanillas) because i suppose i don't share the same interests/tastes as they do. plus they feel i'm "too white" for them to talk to. i find it easier for me chat with white men (Doms and vanillas) due to the environment and my childhood surroundings that i was raised.

i'm not knocking down my black brothers out there - i'm merely basing my comment from my own personal experience.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 5:25:13 PM

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Hello Noirsub,

This is my first post on here, I am new to this site, but am not new to the lifestyle. Your question caught my attention. I am white and I say the same thing, about serving a black master. It is just as heady for me being a sub to a masterful black man. I have been in interracial relationships for much of my life and it is all good. I like the contrast of our skin next to one another, to me it is beautiful.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 6:38:06 PM

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Wow. Just read the whole of this thread...
What I find interesting is how so few comments come from non-Americans (were there any?) It's fascinating to me how the issue of race seems to arouse such strong passions in all of you from the US, the supposed "great melting pot".

While we here in the UK have racists and race issues too, they don't seem to arouse our passions to the same extent. I guess maybe because our maritime history and Empire days meant we had a whole lot longer to get used to people who looked different from us (even if we still didn't treat 'em any better!)

These days, in London at least, mixed race couples raise no eyebrows. The OP here wouldn't even be an issue. Maybe if someone consciously desired to evoke the old days of slavery in their play, and that was what they got off on...

My first wife was Japanese, my current wife is Pakistani. Neither were sought out by me for their race, or because they were somehow "different". We just happened to meet, and fall in love. In between, I've had (white) American, Black, Jewish, and mainly English partners. Skin colour is just such a non-issue, and for us I think no longer carries any 'unconscious associations'.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 6:56:09 PM

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"What I find interesting is how so few comments come from non-Americans (were there any?)"

Uh, yeah, I made 2 on this very page.

But then again Brits tend to ignore comments from Aussies. Ever since WW1.

*wink*

I invite you to rent the DVD of Breaker Morant today...

(kidding, kidding...)

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 7:00:11 PM

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Actually, in the US, we don't call them "Orientals."

Unless we're talking about carpets, that is.

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ORIGINAL: SirDominic

Awhile back we had a thread on Orientals, now Blacks; seems to me it says a lot about us as a society that these discussions even come up. Is it because, in the US at least, the scene is predominantly whites?

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 3:11:14 PM

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hmm, can't recall if i replied to this topic before or not, but eh, here goes anyway.
before i was owned, i saw myself one day being owned by a significantly older white Master. it never occured to me for a second that i could maybe have a black Master or a hispanic Master or whatever...being a total and complete newbie, when i thought of power, control, sadism, perversion..."white Man" just naturally popped into my mind, lol. that's not meant as an insult to anyone, it was purely my own ignorance at the time. i also grew up in the rural south and had many harsh encounters with racism growing up...a place where any white person could hurt or kill any black person and the police would look the other way. somehow coming out of this environment, rather than seeking the opposite, i wished my future Master to not only be white, not only be at least a generation older, but also have some racist tendencies, and preferably be from the american south. when i was 18 i belonged to this yahoo group just for black female slaves and white Masters...it was quite active, and i made some pretty poetic posts there about this strong, powerful, "beautiful White Man" of my dreams.

this may seem odd but for me it never had a thing to do with skin color. being black, i could very easily find someone of my own race and have any sort of dramatic skin color contrast i wanted. nope...it was purely about the mental/psychological elements of race and power for me. the thought of being owned by someone who felt themselves superior to me simply by birthright was appealing to my subbie nature. i didn't want to roleplay any Massa/plantation scenarios or anything silly like that, but rather to be subject to honest, real racism while dealing with everything else that comes with being a slave.

but eh, fate often has different plans for us than we have for ourselves. in that same yahoo group, i met the Man who is my Master today, and he is black and very proud. :) by the time i was aware of his race, i liked him too much to care. but he was always fascinated by the mindset of black submissives like me who longed to serve/be owned by racist white Masters, which is why he belonged to that particular group, and why he makes sure that i serve Dominants like that every once in a while. and everytime i must serve one of these Dominants, who truly feel i am inferior because of my race, who degrade me in all manner of ways, calling me "nigger" with passion, remarking how my hair would be useful to scrub pots, say i'm such a good slave because it's "in my blood" and i'm only doing what my "grandmammy and greatgrandmammy" did before me, i appreciate the experience, appreciate the use and knowledge, but am sooo sooo grateful that Daddy found me and claimed me first.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 3:25:32 PM

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why does it seem any thread deailing with race or ethnicity of any sort always turns into a pissing match?

any thread over 5 pages has most likly turned in to a pissing match regardles of race...but to answer your question i would say there is still quite a charge out there in the world...alot of fucked up past history for both sides that has not been healed...even the fact that we refer to them as sides...belabors my point.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 9:28:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: porcelaine

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ORIGINAL: mons

greetings to all

i guess i am a racist to black men. i did not start out this way i adore black men i wanted always someone as smart as my father and strong someone who did not drink but i ran into someone who beat me each time he could oh i wrote this before but he raped me so many times i did not know what to do. he was large there very large i was in pain i ran away to ca i never told my family being light he hit places where no one could see.

i was abuse by my brother my father was oh well crazy. all the black man who i care for abuse me the last was my child father. i tried to date black me but i was so scared and i know they are not all like but i have this fear of someone hurting me so i do not trust anyone male who is black ,
the one person i love was white and my family made me leave him to go with the beater so well that was it
i found i have always like white males as someone said the color and tone is so sexy.
i am treat so much better when i date white male they adore black woman i do not know why someone said we know how to take care of our men and we do not run around loooking for careers we do but in a ways where we still take care of our men. oh yes we can cook lol.

so now i come to know whie males are my choice as slaves submissive they are so sweet and funny anyone can adore me but they do it is a way that is so special. but white me it is said are the best oral sex givers and it is true vblack woman when we get together we speak of this so much lol
so that is why i date only white males i would never date a black man i do not find them sexula attractive at all

mons

First of all, to each his own. If you sincerely feel you are racist I have no desire to argue that point. However, I will say this. No particular race is better than the other. Generalizations exist which have been proven incorrect time and time again. It would seem that your experiences, while bad are partially your responsibility as well. While we cannot control the events that occur while underaged, we do have a say in our lives when we're adults. I don't sincerely think one race of men are preying upon you. Perhaps you have made poor choices that resulted in the abuse you speak of in your relationships. Whatever the truth may be it is yours to discover.

Dating outside of one's race does not provide a guarantee for better treatment or a cure all for what ills. You still carry the same person and baggage into the new pairing that you took into the last.

porcelaine

Okay, I'm a sub and probably shouldn't be posting, but I HAD to reply to this! It seemed to me that there was only one relationship after she came of age that maybe she had a say in the abuse ( could be wrong though, but that's how it read to me.). And it's easy to talk like that to someone when YOU'RE not the one to have lived through it. Most people don't consciously chose to be abused. And after all her bad experiences she could (I said COULD) have developed and unconscious phobia. People with phobias often know there is no real reason to be afraid and yet, they still have said phobia. I know at least three people with CLOWN phobias! Abuse is a mind fuck just like a phobia is. It's not something you can just snap your fingers and ignore. Both often have long term side effects. Hers happens to be a fear of relationships with black males. Just let her be.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 9:43:37 PM

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HOLY LIVING MOTHER GODDESS OF ALL NATURE, NAIVE TEMPEST, YOU ARE

FLAMING

FUCKING

YUMMY

GORGEOUS!!!!

Sorry, I was completely overcome. Back to the thread...

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 10:05:48 PM

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Yes she is, but will you quit being silly and email her on the other side?! M

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/6/2007 10:07:35 PM

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I totally agree with Ebony. I prefer to date outside my race and I'll offer no excuses or reasons to anyone because of it. So call me wierd, racist or whatever I could really give a fuck at this point. This post took a big turn but many people tried to keep it on track which is why I kept reading. I am a sub and haven't had a BDSM relationship yet, but in my lifespan I have dated many races, including my own. But I prefer interacial. When I buy bread at the store I prefer white to wheat is that a reflection of my preferences as well. Hell, now I'M straying of topic! There is something special in the relationships, I agree. I love the contrast of skin colors and ethnic persepectives and just SO many things about interracial relationships. And while there is still a stigma for black women and white men, I say keep on truckin' sista and to all my sisters that are perfectly happy in their interracial relationships, vanilla or BDSM.

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