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naughtynick -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 5:38:31 PM)
The point is that women are arrogant towards males from the start. Even if I didnt have the profile I had, I would still get ignored no matter what because the average looking male is not good enough for most women on here. Just because this is sexual and thats what men want, women think they can treat men how they like and expect men to suck up their ass in return. Its all about the pussy power. Women in sites such as this expect everything for free while expecting men to pay a price to get what they deserve Ignoring someone is not showing respect. Why should I respect them? 99 percent of women ignore men on here no matter how polite they are. I have approached women in a nice and respectable way without having the profile I have and I get the same result. While women are allowed to say in their profiles that they are sick of men contacting them for things they dont want etc. Women seem to be allowed to complain about men in their profiles but when a male complains about women in his profile its a different story. There always has to be a double standard with women in these places.

HBGMaleSub -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 5:47:33 PM)
A Question: Why can't there be one, JUST ONE, D/s personals site on the internet that is not infested with these "Pro Dommes"? "Infested" is the only word I can use to describe the situation with D/s personals and "Pro Dommes". The Internet is FILLED with numerous sites for these women to find Johns (oh sorry - to find "clients") to have "sessions" with. Why not just one site that bans these hookers. I don't care if that would bring the female dominant to male submissive down to 1,000:1. I can find a "Pro Domme" anywhere, any time, any place. Despite all of the self-serving rationalizations being stated by the 'Pro Dommes" on this site - money is being paid for sexual gratification of one form or another, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is called prostitution.

MsKatHouston -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 5:49:37 PM)
ah so we are at 99% and not at 100%? Great...making progress. :)

naughtynick -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 5:50:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HBGMaleSub A Question: Why can't there be one, JUST ONE, D/s personals site on the internet that is not infested with these "Pro Dommes"? "Infested" is the only word I can use to describe the situation with D/s personals and "Pro Dommes". The Internet is FILLED with numerous sites for these women to find Johns (oh sorry - to find "clients") to have "sessions" with. Why not just one site that bans these hookers. I don't care if that would bring the female dominant to male submissive down to 1,000:1. I can find a "Pro Domme" anywhere, any time, any place. Despite all of the self-serving rationalizations being stated by the 'Pro Dommes" on this site - money is being paid for sexual gratification of one form or another, and that, ladies and gentlemen, is called prostitution. Thank you. Finally someone with common sense sheds the light.

MsKatHouston -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 5:54:40 PM)
quote: Why can't there be one, JUST ONE, D/s personals site on the internet that is not infested with these "Pro Dommes"? well then make one

MySweetSubmssive -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:03:06 PM)
If you're going to complain about the pro-Dommes will you also complain about the people who support the pro-Dommes -- submissive or other men? If there was not a steady stream of takers, then there wouldn't be any pro-Dommes here advertising what they do. Perhaps instead of ranting here -- and alienating the very group of people you are trying to get together with -- you could make these observations in an "Ask a submissive" thread. That way you could get rid of all the "johns," there would only be "good" submissives left, the ratio of dommes to submissives would be much more favorable for you, and I would get what I want. Now that, gentlemen, would be a common sense solution. MSS

MistressSassy66 -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:05:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick The point is that women are arrogant towards males from the start. Even if I didnt have the profile I had, I would still get ignored no matter what because the average looking male is not good enough for most women on here. Just because this is sexual and thats what men want, women think they can treat men how they like and expect men to suck up their ass in return. Its all about the pussy power. Women in sites such as this expect everything for free while expecting men to pay a price to get what they deserve Ignoring someone is not showing respect. Why should I respect them? 99 percent of women ignore men on here no matter how polite they are. I have approached women in a nice and respectable way without having the profile I have and I get the same result. While women are allowed to say in their profiles that they are sick of men contacting them for things they dont want etc. Women seem to be allowed to complain about men in their profiles but when a male complains about women in his profile its a different story. There always has to be a double standard with women in these places. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that double standard started with men. I can see why your having a problem,not too many are just looking for kinky sex. What does looks have to do with it?A nice personality says a lot more than a pretty face can. I do agree with the statement of "pussy power" but I have to wonder how did We get that power?I think it came from men...again sorry to be the bearer of bad news but "you reap what you sow". I am just full of those cute little quotes [:D] BTW...I dont expect them to suck My ass... I dont even allow them to lick or kiss it,they would get smacked upside the head if they ever tried sucking it. I bet I could get rich if I would only let them suck My ass...I can hear them now...Just once please Miss may i,pretty please??

HBGMaleSub -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:09:51 PM)
You are not alone in your thoughts about this sad situation. I am "stuck" with my submissive orientation. I did not choose to be this way, and frankly, if I had a choice, I would not choose to be a male submissive. But my genetics have made me what I am, and the type of women I am attracted to. However, these "Pro Dommes" are not "stuck" with turning D/s tricks to earn a living - they choose to do it because it is a lucrative, tax free, method to earn income. Instead of grinding it out getting an education, finding legitimate employment, and building a career they choose to turn tricks instead. It is choice made by them that is born from a lack of character and self-respect on their part. Many times you will see these hookers couch what they do for money in very altruistic terms but in the end it all comes down to money for sex. It is just that simple. It is prostitution.

MySweetSubmssive -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:13:17 PM)
How did you get so squallidly, unpleasantly and thoroughly bitter in 5 days?

NINASHARP -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:13:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick The point is that women are arrogant towards males from the start. Even if I didnt have the profile I had, I would still get ignored no matter what because the average looking male is not good enough for most women on here. Just because this is sexual and thats what men want, women think they can treat men how they like and expect men to suck up their ass in return. Its all about the pussy power. Women in sites such as this expect everything for free while expecting men to pay a price to get what they deserve Its not fun to be ignored I am sure. But try putting yourself in the women's shoes. Try getting 100's of mails a day with pics of cocks enclosed, those spelling out their terms with vulgarities, responding from places like Germany and India in which they wish to serve from a far, requesting to chat even when the lady's profile says they aren't into chat, if they have even read the profile and basically treating dominant women like they are some kind of piece of meat to cater to their bottom needs, instead of realizing the dynamics in which these ladies, myself included, in which they have signed on to this site for. It is not because of the women being so arrogant, but the guys who behave like this, and they surely out number the dominant women here, pro or not, that ruin it for those who are sincere and do have the intentions to form a r/t M/s relationship with. At least that has been my experience and I have read enough posts on the forum to know that I'm not the only one with this problem. Nina

naughtynick -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:19:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66 quote: ORIGINAL: naughtynick The point is that women are arrogant towards males from the start. Even if I didnt have the profile I had, I would still get ignored no matter what because the average looking male is not good enough for most women on here. Just because this is sexual and thats what men want, women think they can treat men how they like and expect men to suck up their ass in return. Its all about the pussy power. Women in sites such as this expect everything for free while expecting men to pay a price to get what they deserve Ignoring someone is not showing respect. Why should I respect them? 99 percent of women ignore men on here no matter how polite they are. I have approached women in a nice and respectable way without having the profile I have and I get the same result. While women are allowed to say in their profiles that they are sick of men contacting them for things they dont want etc. Women seem to be allowed to complain about men in their profiles but when a male complains about women in his profile its a different story. There always has to be a double standard with women in these places. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that double standard started with men. I can see why your having a problem,not too many are just looking for kinky sex. What does looks have to do with it?A nice personality says a lot more than a pretty face can. I do agree with the statement of "pussy power" but I have to wonder how did We get that power?I think it came from men...again sorry to be the bearer of bad news but "you reap what you sow". I am just full of those cute little quotes [:D] BTW...I dont expect them to suck My ass... I dont even allow them to lick or kiss it,they would get smacked upside the head if they ever tried sucking it. I bet I could get rich if I would only let them suck My ass...I can hear them now...Just once please Miss may i,pretty please?? Yes, a personality says a lot more than looks but women expect you to have a personality like a guy from the movies or something. A guy has to be super confident and be really intelligent or have a high status. While a woman is allowed to be insecure and bitter and she will still get men. Just the average guy with the average personality is not good enough. Basically women only expect someone higher than them as for status and personality. There are a lot of women on these sites that seek the "friends with benefits" deal but they expect some superman who does not exist to approach them. Pussy power how did you get it? Its because women are selfish women it comes to sex and they use sex as a weapon to get what they want out of men. While men use sex for his pleasure and hers. We basically use sex for just sex but women use sex for a number of things not just the pleasure or reproduction. Thats how pussy power exist, women cheat with it, men dont cheat with their sexual offerings.

MsKatHouston -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:23:06 PM)
Well all I can say is I am very glad there are many other men in the world who don't have such a negative view of women. Again, why is it you are here?

NINASHARP -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:25:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HBGMaleSub You are not alone in your thoughts about this sad situation. I am "stuck" with my submissive orientation. I did not choose to be this way, and frankly, if I had a choice, I would not choose to be a male submissive. But my genetics have made me what I am, and the type of women I am attracted to. However, these "Pro Dommes" are not "stuck" with turning D/s tricks to earn a living - they choose to do it because it is a lucrative, tax free, method to earn income. Instead of grinding it out getting an education, finding legitimate employment, and building a career they choose to turn tricks instead. It is choice made by them that is born from a lack of character and self-respect on their part. Many times you will see these hookers couch what they do for money in very altruistic terms but in the end it all comes down to money for sex. It is just that simple. It is prostitution. Actually no. It doesn't work that way. If you had a clue about it, then you'd know the high price of toys, the price of dungeon privacy, the price of the fetish wear that you as a submissive male might like to see your dominant woman in or see yourself in. In fact, there isn't much money to be made, and any pro will tell you that it would be better to go to an office and get their pension and insurance benifits, than to be a self employed dominant woman. Those thinking they will make the money usually do not. When I was a Pro I never made a profit because I was constantly putting it back into the dungeon to maintain it and for all those little toys that make sub male squirm and beg to have used on him. I'd be interested in how many things you provide for your Mistress, how many leather floggers are in your closet? How many bondage benches, standing stocks and st andrew's crosses you have made? How many cock and ball toys, nipple clamps violet wands, suspension and leather cuffs you have in your toy bag? My guess is zero!

HBGMaleSub -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:28:17 PM)
I am not bitter at all. I am simply stating the facts as I see them in regard to the question posed. The original poster is asking rational questions that most male submissives ask themselves about the hookers in this lifestyle and I am simply providing my thoughts to him. "Pro Dommes" are in actuality nothing but financial predators at their core and he is asking the correct questions. I know my viewpoints may make the hookers uncomfortable but sometimes the truth can do that..................

naughtynick -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:28:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston Well all I can say is I am very glad there are many other men in the world who don't have such a negative view of women. Again, why is it you are here? There are a lot of men who think the same as me. But pussy power stops that. Instead you have men denying it because they want to make a good impression on women and tell women what they want to hear lol.

MsKatHouston -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:32:25 PM)
Didn't answer my question... and I really don't think the guys I have met on this site are like that...if so they put up a damn good act.

ModeratorEleven -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:35:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HBGMaleSub Why can't there be one, JUST ONE, D/s personals site on the internet that is not infested with these "Pro Dommes"? "Infested" is the only word I can use to describe the situation with D/s personals and "Pro Dommes". You're welcome to start such a site if you feel the need. Every member of the BDSM community is welcome here as long as they follow our rules. XI

MistressSassy66 -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:42:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HBGMaleSub You are not alone in your thoughts about this sad situation. I am "stuck" with my submissive orientation. I did not choose to be this way, and frankly, if I had a choice, I would not choose to be a male submissive. But my genetics have made me what I am, and the type of women I am attracted to. However, these "Pro Dommes" are not "stuck" with turning D/s tricks to earn a living - they choose to do it because it is a lucrative, tax free, method to earn income. Instead of grinding it out getting an education, finding legitimate employment, and building a career they choose to turn tricks instead. It is choice made by them that is born from a lack of character and self-respect on their part. Many times you will see these hookers couch what they do for money in very altruistic terms but in the end it all comes down to money for sex. It is just that simple. It is prostitution. LMAO...I know plenty of educated Pros,many have so called real jobs. Its like the way people used to think about being a stay at home Mom...that it wasnt a job. I do Volunteer work for My community can any of you ranting men say the same? Seriously you sound worse than some Women I know who are content to stay in the same shit and claim they have no choice.I know its just so much easier to complain about it than take action.Blame everyone else instead of looking at yourself.You dont want Us to judge you without knowing you,but its fine for you to sit back and judge Pros without knowing them...Now there is a double standard for ya. I think you all are so bitter and angry because We see right through you...and nothing pisses a dude off like knowing them and what they are after.Its that or jealousy that We have a choice...Maybe its a bit of both.

MySweetSubmssive -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:43:57 PM)
I doubt that your views are making any of the ladies here uncomfortable. What I feel regarding your posts is a combination of repugnance and pity. Again I'll ask, you have such scorn for pro-Dommes, but do you feel scorn for the men who go to them? Why not go right to the source of what you see as the problem? And frankly, what's more conventional than your attitude about sexuality? Why not spend your energy courting the woman whom you find interesting rather than focusing on what isn't your cup of tea? Do you feel frustration at not finding what you want? Lots of people have been looking for a compatible partner for quite a while. It takes time and persistence and focusing on what works, rather than what you hate. I've never been able to attract submissives by saying how dreadful submissives are. I'm guessing that tack won't work any better for you.

HBGMaleSub -> RE: pro dommes on here (9/7/2006 6:47:47 PM)
I stand corrected..... "I know my viewpoints may make you uncomfortable but sometimes the truth can do that.................. "

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