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RE: What is Shibari - 1/27/2005 12:18:53 AM   
ShadeDiva


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i agree. but this looked more tender, not that i am opposed to a tender moment, i just call that after care.
althought there is also something to be be said for the amount of patience she had (after all, he was making these knots for for more than 1/2 hour) and that is certainly something i could use more of, who go's to a dungeon to be suddle?
again, just my opinion

Goodness - I've seen and done TONS of tender scenes - they have their own energy and again, like I said earlier those can be a thousand times more intense than a rough scene.

People go to dungeons for many reasons, the atmosphere, the equipment, a change of pace, to hang out with friends, to enjoy the energy, to do something they don't have the space or setting to do - a multitude of different reasons.

Some of us don't go to dungeons to show off or see who can be the more heavy edge player - we all don't always want to be playing to the crowd (I personally find it annoying when I see scenes where the dominant is paying way more attention to the reaction of the audience than the person they are playing with - almost makes me ill) - many of us aren't out to impress others we are there to play with those we are playing with. Or to impress others by trying to compare our playing style to another and then deciding theirs is less intimate, fun, hardcore, whatever and wow aren't we just the shit kind of mentality.

Subtle might not be your intent when going to a public playspace, and that's fine - but it certainly doesn't make YOUR usage of the space any better or any more valid than theres.

I see a lot of judgmentalism in your remarks about their scene - they were doing what they wanted to do for them - and as far as you know it was a billion times more heavy than your scene was simply because you have *no* idea what context or where they were coming from.

If she was incredibly clausophobic or had extreme issues with being bound that could have been a really hardcore scene for her and him both.

I hate when I see folks doing that scene judging thing - smacks me as being very competitive (and I always wonder why they feel a need to be competitive or compare their scenes - because it's like comparing apples and oranges - makes me feel that they are pretty insecure, offhand). It's like they are saying:

Hrmph! They call *that* playing? The schmucks, what a wussy scene! *My* scenes are way more fun and better than than that lame shit - even if it looks pretty - that's just not BDSM meant for public play! *My* BDSM is how it should be done. Wow, do I rock!

Least that's how your post came across to me - very OTWist and very competitive.

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RE: What is Shibari - 1/27/2005 12:20:29 AM   
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*smile* Thank you - and no I don't mind.

You needn't attribute it to me however, feel free to use it without my name, I don't need the ego-strokes, hehe!

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RE: What is Shibari - 2/21/2005 2:00:35 PM   
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Shade Diva,
i think if you read my original post about it, you would see that i was not judging anyone. (i enclosed it here) if you would have read the entire thread, you would have seen that, (or maybe you just like to pick a fight, i very clearly & distinctly said this was just my opinion)
furthermore; you have never seen me i public, let me know when you are in the area & i'll meet you at The Crucible, or i can get you in the Playhouse.
if you had ever seen me play you would know that i do not grandstrand, and actually on the reserve side. i am very unaware of who or what is around me when i play; however i do like to observe others and see what is interesting ~ yes i do give them their space.

i wish you well.


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ORIGINAL: Goodmix

I was at a Black Rose event last weekend and there was a couple doing Shabari. after he was finished with all the fancy knots (which took some time and looked cool), he layed on the floor facing her and talked.
i'm not trying to put it down, and i know it's all what "Y/your" into, but i thought it was boring. no paddles, canes, whips, no blindfolds, no gags...no electric. we went off and i got into the vaccum bed.....ice & vibrators ....lots more intimate, not to mention fun
(just my opinion)

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RE: What is Shibari - 2/21/2005 5:49:47 PM   
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I do belong to the international guild of knot tyers, have a registered knot that I discovered


Your skills never cease to amaze me Lawrence.


You should see what he can do with a cherry stem ;)

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RE: What is Shibari - 2/21/2005 5:56:21 PM   
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I am not going to get into the middle of the arguement but I do want to discuss the original question The Shibari Technique. I have yet to see or hear of anyone who can actually do it properly let alone master it. My question is What makes it so difficult?
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I've experienced one man do it very well on me about 4 years ago. He had 20 years experience in Nawa Shibari. It is a very hot thing I have to say.

What makes it so difficult is that the knots have to be done in a specific way to hit pressure points. It's all in the tension and in the predicament that should be generated. Midori is an expert in both shibari and predicament bondage.

The interesting thing is that shibari has often been done on women but very little has been written on shibari for men (at least in what I have found). Has anyone come across such a resource?

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RE: What is Shibari - 2/22/2005 7:32:52 PM   
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