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Jasmyn -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 10:44:09 AM)
quote: What really, deeply annoys me (and others I perceive) is the attitude of some men that it is solely those attributes emphasised in the male which matter It's women who have this attitude that do my head in [:@] Had a discussion with someone recently where he claimed confidence and femininity could not co-exist in the same person and how he was repulsed by women renouncing their femininity and falsely claiming confidence when it was clearly a myth for a woman to have confidence. Ayecrumba, where's the brick wall when ya need to bang ya head against one lol ... I did suggest to him he may not be so repulsed by the confident woman if he was confidently masculine himself... but that's the problem with been unable to seperate or not willing to seperate the cunt from the woman from the feminine ..or the penis from the man from the masculine ... ya too scared to consider any other way of being...

LadyEllen -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 10:52:05 AM)
Jasmyn - I have to say this guy must be very unusual. The most attractive women (and men), are those who show the most confidence in all aspects of their being, often regardless of looks, in my experience. It sounds to me, as I think you hinted, that he feels pretty inadequate in himself if he finds a confident woman too much to deal with?

philosophy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 11:15:03 AM)
"how he was repulsed by women renouncing their femininity and falsely claiming confidence" .....................clearly he needs to come out of the closet.........

seeksfemslave -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 1:13:10 PM)
meatcleaver said Intelligence tests are culturally biased. It would be difficult to design a cross cultural test. If I was stranded in a jungle I would rather put myself in the hands of a local than someone who is a genius according to a western IQ test Though I never mentioned IQ tests I would rather be guided by a local someone who scored highly on the jungle IQ test than one who didn't. I dont know tho' IQ test are a bit iffy in my opinion. It strikes me that the femmes of both genders who oppose me really dont grasp the kind of intelligence that is capable of producing a piano concerto or a complex philosophical novel or a break with scientific convention. This is not every day stuff folks. This is a trancendental something, way up there like a vapour trail of an aeroplane. There to be seen and appreciated but not easily emulated unless you are up there in another aeroplane.

NastyDaddy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 4:16:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Had a discussion with someone recently where he claimed confidence and femininity could not co-exist in the same person and how he was repulsed by women renouncing their femininity and falsely claiming confidence when it was clearly a myth for a woman to have confidence. Ayecrumba, where's the brick wall when ya need to bang ya head against one lol ... I did suggest to him he may not be so repulsed by the confident woman if he was confidently masculine himself... but that's the problem with been unable to seperate or not willing to seperate the cunt from the woman from the feminine ..or the penis from the man from the masculine ... ya too scared to consider any other way of being... Why not tell him you are confident in your femininty... why cast an impression that you rennounced it? Rennouncing your femininty would equate to having no confidence in your femininty at all, would it not? The comments of seperating the cunt from the woman from the femininty suggests you may not have actually rennounced your femininity. Are you actually rennouncing the man's masculinity instead by virtue of your femdom role (ie. generalized feminization)? Does a male sub really lose his masculinity? Does a femdom really lose her femininity? Does a male dom really have to be masculine all the time? Does a fem sub really have to be feminine all the time? Each can represent their gender trait confidently across a broad range without having to rennounce it, most lifestyle people I know, nilla friends too, actually do this quite well. Rennouncing either simply perverts a much-adored-by-females concept and tradition of chivalry. This is not suggesting males don't have a thing for chivarly either... after all, it takes two to tango.

NastyDaddy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 4:25:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Amaros quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver If it wasn't for men we'd still be living in caves. They might be nice and clean and pleasant caves but caves none the less. Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you there - men would have remained quite happy living in caves, but you see you can't really keep a cave clean - it took a woman bitching night and day, to get Og to go out and build a house with a slate floor. The rest of it? To impress women of course. And why do we fight? So they won't take our women. Yanno, come to think of it, organized women haven't fought to protect their men throughout history, so perhaps the study was actually spot on? [;)]

NastyDaddy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 4:31:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Men, it is generally accepted, have better spatial awareness. Women, it is generally accepted have better communication skills. I agree, men often convince women that 3 inches is really 12 inches, and women are very good at communicating they really like that!

ScooterTrash -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 5:59:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave Twicehappy...your bikes seem expensive to me. I think I will stick with my Yamaha. Bet Scooter cant improve on the Jap engineers achievements. lol Don't count on it and I wouldn't put any money on that wager, I've been involved in more Japanese automotive part redesigns than I care to recall actually. But in fairness, I can say the same about Domestic parts as well. Engineers come up with interesting concepts, but it takes someone who understands principles as well as functionality to hone those concepts. As for the bikes...hmmm, we don't even want to go there, and that's certainly an area we won't agree on. I guess by living with and seeing multiple female minds in action, I cannot agree that their creativeness is hindered by their sex. Certainly, both sexes have specific areas where they shine, mostly due to schooling, life experiences, occupational opportunities and general influence from society, but many, of both sides, cross over into fields that are not dominated by their gender and are quite successful. I made the mistake once & only once, of assuming that since it was a female in the other lane during a drag race, that I wouldn't have to work as hard to win. It's a long trek back to the trailer to go home, when you have lost due to a bad assumption. Granted, that is but one example, but I will never again assume anyone's performance potential at anything, simply due to their sex. If a female tells me that they are an accomplished biophysicist or a male tells me the can prepare an out of this world soufflé, I will take both statements as valid until proven otherwise...to do anything contrary would simply be shortsighted on my part. If we were strictly discussing historical accomplishments, due to the oppression by the male populous, I would have to agree that males probably did hold the upper hand, but today where the sky is the limit and stepping out of the norm is not only not stifled, but applauded, I would never attempt to prejudge potential simply by what they are packing between their legs.

cuddleheart50 -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 6:00:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Men, it is generally accepted, have better spatial awareness. Women, it is generally accepted have better communication skills. I agree, men often convince women that 3 inches is really 12 inches, and women are very good at communicating they really like that! I call those "cyber inches".

losttreasure -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 6:00:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver If it wasn't for men we'd still be living in caves. They might be nice and clean and pleasant caves but caves none the less. cough I understand the quote to go something like "if it weren't for women, we'd still be living in caves and carrying around clubs"... made by Ronald Reagan sometime in... thinks 1983, I believe. I still have a very lovely note from him thanking me for my letter of encouragement after there was feminist outcry over that comment. [;)]

Zensee -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 9:49:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave It strikes me that the femmes of both genders who oppose me really dont grasp the kind of intelligence that is capable of producing a piano concerto or a complex philosophical novel or a break with scientific convention. Or twinkies or an atomic bomb and be smart enough to actually use it on people or to completely ignore science and believe fairy tales for thousand's of years at a time, have witch hunts, vendettas, wars to end all wars and then just one more because we didn't quite finish it last time... Perhaps it's my poor feminised brain but it seems, in essence, you are saying here, men who disagree with you aren't truly masculine and are therefore incapable of understanding your argument. Firstly that is a playground tactic - name-calling. Secondly it is a reiteration of your premise and proves nothing. Repeating yourself does not make a novel argument. Nor a substantive one.0

seeksfemslave -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/12/2006 11:33:13 PM)
I listed some items that to create requires the kind of intelligence that I claim is mostly exhibited by men. Zensee responds by telling me that it was men who produced the atomic bomb and used it.As for men producing the bomb surely that supports what I am saying. Doesn't it ? In point of fact many of the scientists involved advocated that the bomb not be used. Oppenheimer for example. Then Zensee sees insult in having a feminised brain. Why is that Mr Z ? Surely there is no difference between male/females , you have said so yourself ! When I see some of the arguments marshalled against me I think it is right to conclude that the opposition do not understand the point, it is not name calling at all. .

LadyEllen -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 3:27:25 AM)
seeks - "it strikes me the femmes of both genders......." Oh Zensee, he's not referring to the likes of Philosophy and Scooter as "femmes" when he makes that remark I'm afraid. He is namecalling and not even getting it right when he does it! "Femmes of both sexes" might be more accurate, but even then that ignores that there are more than two sexes, quite apart from the number of genders there are. I can only come to this conclusion after he admitted to falling in love with me from what I posted in earlier threads, and then seeing my profile description and now presumably feeling a little uncomfortable and feeling a need to prod me in as surreptitious a way as he can find? Now, if there were space available, I could post a detailed analysis of Germanic pagan mythology and lore which I wrote a few years ago, which not only fully explains what is otherwise a mishmash of confused sources as being of a single truth, but which is also internally coherent, universally applicable to the world and the cosmos, and which very importantly matches in Germanic cultural terms the Hindu religion, which is a distant cousin of the Germanic and other Indo-European forms. And which from that initial exposition, demonstrates the power and nature of Germanic pagan religion as a genuine form of personal and social development which encompasses all in a society, and which comprises a spectrum extending from the more simplistic purposes of the mundane through to the purpose of attaining a Germanic form of enlightenment. In other words, the sort of higher intellectual product which seeks claims to be the province of the male - and its well written to boot! seeks would presumably attribute this to my superior male birth sex. However, all those psychologists and psychiatrists, let alone what I know of myself, cannot be too wrong in concluding that I have a female gender, hence psychology. Now, since the above work derived from my psychology, rather than from my chromosomal or reproductive attributes, this would suggest that it was more the product of my female gender, rather than my male sex. This tends to disprove the kind of strict division in ability and achievement which seeks seems to be proposing - unless he proposes that all the great men he listed made their cultural contributions by way of their penis rather than their minds? I do wonder about you sometimes seeks; on almost every thread you post to that I have read, you seem to take a stance which invites and even impels response and rebuttal. At the same time, I can see I think, an intelligent man there who perhaps does not entirely match with the character which his posts seem to suggest to others. Whilst those posts can sometimes make things interesting, I do wonder whether they really state your position or whether they are more intended to generate response? I also hope that since I have revealed so much about me in this post in order to explain comments that I feel must be directed to me, that you will feel able to answer these questions honestly? E

philosophy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 4:10:53 AM)
" "seeks - "it strikes me the femmes of both genders......." Oh Zensee, he's not referring to the likes of Philosophy and Scooter as "femmes" when he makes that remark I'm afraid. " oh he probably is LE.........thing is, he also probably thinks he's making us angry. How could i be angry with him when, by his insipid arguments and non-evidence he simply proves the opposite of what he professes to believe every time.........

meatcleaver -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 5:15:42 AM)
seeks - "it strikes me the femmes of both genders......." Will all women with a penis please take a step forward![>:]

MistressWolfen -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 5:36:33 AM)
grabs an armful of penises from the top bureau drawer...So what now meatcleaver?

seeksfemslave -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 5:39:12 AM)
If I state that I do not believe that men are superior to women in the full human sense and that is not accepted then there is nothing I can do. The comment <femmes of both genders> is a little joke aimed mostly at those males, in the commonly accepted sense of the word, who seem to have swallowed the feminist arguments hook line and sinker. Men have made super colossal contributions to the present state of the world, based on a high level inquiring intellect. This is demonstrably not true of women to anything like the same extent. These contributions are not recognised in the media, celebrity sex obsessed world in which we live. Lady E: I have not digested your profile I have read it and I do not remember reading anything in it that made me feel uncomfortable. Filo's constant request for sources doesn't allow for the fact Filo that some of us try to think for ourselves. If I absorb information I do not along with it note its source. I did know that IQ tests tended to support, as poster Strongbutkind described, the point of view I am trying to get accepted. I also know which was one of the first major very large scale IQ test surveys to describe race based differences in intelligence. But that is very controversial subject in todays world. However I think that if ever it were accepted, by both sides and without malice of any kind , then the better certain areas of the 3rd world will be. B Geldorf's rants achieve nothing. I have seen an Afro Carribean claim that she would probably be better off if her Island was still run by the Brits. Especially for Filo that was in a programme presented by King Darcus Howe exploring his formative roots. In fact same lady told Darcus to F off back to the Island he came from. If I had said that, taking sprinters as the control group, Men can run the 100 metres faster than Women , would I have got the same response. I think not though I expect Filo would have asked for a sociological survey before he accepted the truth of it. Lady E: I think you have made some very perceptive and intelligent posts on a range of subjects.....so there ! Just agree with me on this one and then maybe something can develop from there. lol

Rule -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 6:02:20 AM)
There are women that are scientifically inclined and there are women that are not. It is well known that Athena was the patron goddess of science and crafts. As for I.Q.: it is a small part of the mind that is measured by I.Q. tests. These days someone having a high I.Q. does not particularly and necessarily impress me. I have concluded that high I.Q. people often are not the most evolved humans, but the least evolved ones.

twicehappy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 6:16:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: meatcleaver seeks - "it strikes me the femmes of both genders......." Will all women with a penis please take a step forward![>:] Runs out to buy bigger one.....brb so wait for me MW.......LOL.

philosophy -> RE: Researchers identify "male warrior effect" (9/13/2006 8:22:58 AM)
"Filo's constant request for sources doesn't allow for the fact Filo that some of us try to think for ourselves. If I absorb information I do not along with it note its source." ....2 points, seeks. Firstly you are not thinking for yourself...you're merely spouting an opinion that you are unable to prove. Thinking for yourself would allow you to find sources that back up your assertion. Secondly, the calculated insult of mispelling my name, along with your school-boy-esque constant attempts to belittle the masculinity of those men who disagree with you, says a vast amount about you and nothing at all about those you are trying to needle. Argue like a man, not a boy.

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