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When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:24:06 PM   
peekaboopet


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You can read in alot of profiles and posts in forum about all the players.
 
Ok.  I know that this will be different for everyone.  Diversity is the basis of the question.  Wondering what others consider real.
 
After messaging in cyber world and communicating via.. this medium, with with both potential partners and friends.
When is it real?
 
For me it isn't  a real investment of emotion on a deep level unless the person would be attending my funeral. ( or on that sort of level)
 
I know that is a strange benchmark .. but until then .. I consider it all just casual.. and far from reality. 
 
Another of mine would be if the person would be able to contact me even if the power went out...  ( no computer or phone)
 
Hope A/all are well.
 
 

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:41:50 PM   
Mavis


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ORIGINAL: peekaboopet

Another of mine would be if the person would be able to contact me even if the power went out...  ( no computer or phone)
 


Yup.  when my cell was wanky, and Master had ISP problems,  the fact that He called my daughter and said "This is Me, I'm trying to get ahold of your mother, will you please tell her for me that I'll keep trying til one of us gets through?"   that spoke to me.

The fact that He'd already had the numbers to my Hubby and grown family in case of emergency told me something before that, but the fact that He used it when it wasn't an emergency, but to leave me assurances i was not left hanging..  wow.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:42:58 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		I'm just gonna avoid the whole "what is real" philosophical issue because that won't get us anywhere.

It's real when you say it's real.  Even for you, you have posted a very large range of where things could fall to be "real."

It's real for the other person when they say it's real for them.

Now, you never asked what "it" is.  To you- IT could be a loving long term relationship.  To them- IT could be a hot summer fling.

Once you've all agreed on what "it" is and then agreed that "it's" real, then it's all good.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:44:29 PM   
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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:48:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KatyLied
I think we need to follow this up with a discussion of *true* Doms and *true* subs.  

You're just baaaad.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:48:50 PM   
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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:50:10 PM   
mstrjx


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think we need to follow this up with a discussion of *true* Doms and *true* subs.  


And then fake ads.  That's always worth a day or two.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 12:53:27 PM   
mkmePainscanvas


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Status: offline 		All of my experience has been in real time. Only meeting has been cyber. For me it is real when we meet, touch, and I see a paticular look in the eyes.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 2:21:23 PM   
Mavis


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Status: offline 		i vote for true doms, true subs, fake ads, people who don't reply to e-mail, abused masos, then why so many fat chicks are drawn to BDSM.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 2:30:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mavis
i vote for true doms, true subs, fake ads, people who don't reply to e-mail, abused masos, then why so many fat chicks are drawn to BDSM.

Well at least you didn't mention begging for a collar, deciding whether you are a sub or a slave, and then how to deal with the guy you just fell in love with and got collared to dumped you.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 2:37:37 PM   
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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 2:43:23 PM   
Mavis


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Well at least you didn't mention begging for a collar, deciding whether you are a sub or a slave, and then how to deal with the guy you just fell in love with and got collared to dumped you.


Geez... must i think of Everything?

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 3:50:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: peekaboopet

When is it real?



A Master and slave relationship is real when both have a clear, internalized understandings of what the two forms literally mean and apply them. Extending along the lines of what you've previously expressed, there is indeed a deeply emotive nature to the psychology of servitude which transcends the typical thrills of fantasy role play, flings and sensual escapism.

To some, there is no truth but what is personally fashioned in its name. One who sees the world this way will embark upon a lifetime of self-fulfilling prophecy. We are all responsible for the paths we've chosen to embark upon.

One does what one is; one becomes what one does.
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< Message edited by amayos -- 9/12/2006 4:39:56 PM >

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 4:43:14 PM   
DivaDuchess


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Status: offline 		If the power is out ... try smoke signals.  I will try to contact until I get ahold of my sub/slave.  I'll try family and other friends to deliver a message ... contact is the 'real' aspect of any relationship.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 5:15:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's real when we meet face to face... not until then.
 
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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 5:19:05 PM   
twicehappy


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ORIGINAL: ShiftedJewel

It's real when we meet face to face... not until then. 


I have to say AMEN to this one Mistress mine, it directly relates to the question i have answered from the numerous subs/slaves i have spoken to in the past few months.
 
They always ask what is the best way to impress Jewel, my answer as you know is always simply "SHOW UP!".

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 8:51:53 PM   
TemptingNviceSub


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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 9:32:49 PM   
Owned1


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ORIGINAL: mstrjx

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I think we need to follow this up with a discussion of *true* Doms and *true* subs.  


And then fake ads.  That's always worth a day or two.


I have no idea what you all are speaking about, there is no such thing as fake ads, and all who profess to be are Dom/me and sub/slave.

Shoot I think the cyber world has tainted you bunch.



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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 9:35:30 PM   
Owned1


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Status: offline 		In all honesty it is real when it feels real to you.  Everyone has thier own measure of what they think real is.  So long as you keep to what you have decided is your measurement then you will not go wrong.

For some it is real when they have the online only cyber relationship, and honestly who are we to say if that is real or not?  For others in da flesh in person may not even be real.

Stick to what works for you and dont let anyone change that, its that old gut instinct feeling.

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RE: When is it real? - 9/12/2006 10:07:58 PM   
SadistCpl4fslv


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Status: offline 		Real is a myth.......along with lochness, bigfoot, and the toothfairy. Or didn't all of you know?.......living in fantasy and refusing to deal with reality is all the rage.

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