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juliaoceania -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 7:43:32 AM)

Deleted because it doesn't matter




MistressMelissa -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 8:03:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Deleted because it doesn't matter


But it does matter.....You took the time to write it...

A thought to ponder: If you are looking for insult you will often find it. Please don't read into anyones post. If they wish to challenge you, they will come out and do so. I do not know you from Adam. I have no clue what you personal life is like. If this did rub a nerve it is purely coincidence. I observe trends in personal behavior. It's what allows me to control their behavior. Please do not take this as an attack but I notice that you have been on these boards for about 5 months or apx 150 days and you have now posted 3294 times or apx 21 times a day for 5 months running. That is impressive. I wish I had that much time everyday.

If we are here to exchange ideas and that is all I have done. What is gained if we all post the same view or opinion? I realize some gain comfort from thinking what the masses think, but at the same time nothing is learned from that exchange.

As your Master Sinergy said; "Just me, could be wrong, but there you go."




catize -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 8:06:33 AM)

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 I dont really disagree with either one of you here, but that "proove yourself" thing rolls in the other direction as well.   Sometimes I think as the dominants you can become insensitive to what we go through.  We submissives get that prove yourself attitude all the time.....  "you're not submissive if"....."you dont seem submissive"....."If you were submissive, you'd blah blah blah".   After a while, it gets hard to share our deepest personal thoughts with every Tom Dick and Dom, and do it with respect and benefit of the doubt, like good little submissives, only to find out that we've been "Sirring" and defering to a wannabe.  This end of it is no picnic either.   

I really like your 'Sirring and deferring' phrase!  It does indeed become quite tiresome to listen to lectures from 'above'.  
In light of the fact there is no global rule book for dominants, I find it irksome when I encounter an expectation that there should be a 'one true way' for submission.




juliaoceania -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 8:11:52 AM)

I deleted it because it does not matter to me what you do or how you view the world, and basically I never never been to a lifestyle event and have no interest in them other than to please my Daddy because of some things I have read here...

It does not strike a nerve for me, why would it?

You do not know me, I do not know you

If you are trying to goad me it really will not work, you do not control my emotional states

Sinergy can answer for putting "master" in front of his nic... which is especially ironic that someone would state how "respectful" they are and then give someone that does not want a certain title that title... whatever.

He is my Daddy, my Dom. not my "master"

As far as the number of posts I have and ad hominems.. I have never attacked you... I even stated in the post I deleted that I was sure you did not mean it the way it sounded.

Im not here to impress you Melisssa....




GddssBella -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 8:58:42 AM)

G'morning all:


*chuckles* Phoenix, I'm not confusing anything and it's pompous for you to suggest so. The original context of the thread has nothing to do with flogging. I used it as a metaphor. Go back, read the thread from the beginning, then take my posts into context. The basis of the thread was how some dominants feel entitled to preferential treatment due to their orientation and expect that immediately after contact.

Thank you Julia. *waves cheerily*

Melissa, these are your viewpoints, which you're entitled to. Your house, your rules. When you leave your front door though, you are NOT entitled to any additional considerations. I don't care if you're Diva Midori in disguise within your community.  You're a flesh and blood human being like everyone else and can't expect anyone to treat your any differently than jane schmoe on the street. The world outside your door is vanilla, that is to say, not of this community and you cannot hold it's denizens to the same ruler. You forget that at your peril. Where's that so called tolerance of yours?

I wish to whatever powers that be, that people would stop viewing the lifestyle as the norm. WIITWD is not the norm. We're wired differently than the rest of society. To live harmoniously with the vanillas, we have to concede the necessity that orientation is on the back burner and interact with all using civility, dignity and courtesy.

Sinergy expressed it so much more lovely than I could. Thank you. Now that I see who's your girl, I see where she's getting some influence from. *smiles* On a note to Julia, who certainly doesn't need my props (as we say in the urban jungle) but, let me just say, I find your independence refreshing. To the other subs, slaves, bottoms, what have you, that expressed similar thinking, I say the same. Kudos.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...


[:D]


Bella




Sinergy -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 6:21:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressMelissa

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Deleted because it doesn't matter


But it does matter.....You took the time to write it...



Hello A/all,

She also took the time to delete it because it did not matter.

Just me, etc,

Sinergy




Sinergy -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/16/2006 6:25:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GddssBella

Sinergy expressed it so much more lovely than I could. Thank you. Now that I see who's your girl, I see where she's getting some influence from. *smiles* On a note to Julia, who certainly doesn't need my props (as we say in the urban jungle) but, let me just say, I find your independence refreshing. To the other subs, slaves, bottoms, what have you, that expressed similar thinking, I say the same. Kudos.



Thank you for the lovely sentiment, GddssBella.  I genuinely feel that my partner should be a reflection of myself.  I can pick up an inarticulate nitwit at Walmart for $3.99, but somebody who can hold her own in a no-holds-barred argument about the relative merits of Marxist theory is a treasure to behold.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/17/2006 5:23:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GddssBella

G'morning all:


The basis of the thread was how some dominants feel entitled to preferential treatment due to their orientation and expect that immediately after contact.



Afternoon, Bella!  I don't see you around that often! 
*Waves cheerily to Bella*

I agree that this should be the basis of the thread.  However, I took note of the fact that The OP also indicated

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika


<snipped here and there for brevity and space>
 
I know some who have the mind set that they are dom/me and anyone who labels themselves submissive or slave should jump through hoops to please them from the very first interaction
 
I am one that beleives that unless I am YOURS I am under obligation to cow tow or kiss your feet or any other part of your body.
 
If your a dom/me that beleives that submissive/slaves should do everything they can to please you simply because of your labels. Why do you think that way?

I truly would like to understand the reasons behind these behaviors and ways of thinking.  
 

 
I am sure that I more or less picked out the "unless I am yours" part.  Because I don't IM, and I don't hang about in chatrooms, and I either meet submissives/slaves via real time functions or via email.  And they are the the ones (I don't think I am that unusual) who contact Me wishing for My attention as a submissive or slave and addressing a Dominant who is of interest to them.  I have a task in My profile.  If it is ignored, along with other parameters I have indicated, that tells Me immediately that this supplicant is not for Me.  If there are boys (and girls) out there who deliberately ignore My parameters because I do not own them yet...well, too bad, so sad.  They just failed a first benchmark.  It is for this reason that I made My original response on this thread.  Because, the way the OP is stated, in general, makes Me feel like this question could particularly apply to Me and My "hoops".
Since the OP was truly wishing to understand the reasoning behind observing certain behaviors, exhibiting the ability to be consistent and obedient, I answered regarding My personal "hoops". 
In every day life, in email, on the phone and at lifestyle functions, I will observe.  I do watch to see how one is conducting oneself.  I am no fonder of the idiots who expect instant adoration by virtue of "I am Master or Mistress so and so" than I am of submissives or slaves whose attitude says, "I don't need to be polite and have manners because you are not My owner, but you sure are hot, and, by the way, what kind of strap on do you own?"
I am sure we are all mostly in agreement regarding ridiculous kow towing or silly demands by someone met 5 minutes earlier.  I would not permit someone to order My boy around, just because he is slave (frankly, even if unowned).  If there is a problem, as the Dominant, I can remind another that they may be forgetting their lifestyle manners.  And he is more than aware of how I would expect him to hande a situation if I was not around. 
I never mean to indicate that I am entitled to special deference because I am a FemDom.  However, the fact remains that I do get this deference when a boy is soliciting My attention at My own munch.  If he doesn't, then I will have a pleasant conversation, and that will be the end of it. 
We all have our parameters of what is pleasing.  I actually like seeing someone in a more natural mode, because that will tell Me a lot more than some role playing which will only be maintained for an hour or two.  I am sure submissives feel the same or should.  I have as little use for bossy Dom/mes, as you do.  And of the few I have met who are like that, I will never be more than a pleasant acquaintance in passing.
But we all have to feel our way, and if I had someone who told Me "I will be nice and mannerly and submissive after you own Me", I guarantee that I will never own them.  One needs to exhibit certain personality traits and temperments and hopfully those are the traits and temperments that are pleasing to the particular Dominant in which they claim an interest.  Living 2/47 with a Domina like Me is going to be a demanding life role.  I am not one to take a fly on someone just because they say that are the person I want.  I need to see that, up close and personal, and before they come a knockin' with their suitcases in hand.

*Edited for My usual "I'm typing way too fast again" typos.  And I am sure one or two remain! 




GddssBella -> RE: Why do people do this? (9/18/2006 9:00:10 AM)

G'morning all:


*waves back cheerily to Dusty* I'm around. I don't post unless something catches my eye and, for whatever reason, I feel compelled to share my viewpoint. Even if it's only sarcasm. Which I'm known for. *big cheesy grin* Thank you for the wave, nice to be noticed or missed. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods.


Stay safe, play nice, & share your toys w/ others...


[:D]


Bella




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