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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:05:14 AM   
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Level - you do rock.  Thank you for noting Mark Knopfler.


My friend said Mark Knopfler gave guitar lessons at his school and no one was really interested. Now he is famous, there are apparently a million students that went through that school and had lessons from Mark Knopfler.

My point being, how much intrinsic talent does an individual rock star have? To paraphrase Shakespeare, some guitrists are born great, some become great and some have greatness thrust upon them.

I always liked Peter Green myself, though like most, I can see his limitations.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:08:41 AM   
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rock star


There are rock stars and there are musicians

Just like there are movie stars and there are actors.

Some people are able to reach a much higher artistic level than others


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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:15:17 AM   
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My vote goes for Yngwie Mahlmsteen.


SirK ...people from outer space do not qualify, They have the unfair advantage of five fingers and a thumb !

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:22:58 AM   
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David Gilmour
Ronnie Montrose
Jeff Beck
Steve Morse
Jimmy Page

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:30:32 AM   
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Geez, you "experts" -- do I have to be the first to mention Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley????

<headsmack>  and Jerry Garcia  </headsmack>

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 12:51:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mark Knoppfler of Dire Straits.
Versatile, smooth. Writes great music and lyrics as well as playing great in many styles.

Also Jimmy Page for similar reasons.

I admire people who are more than just technicians in their field, but have heart and soul and multi talents that go through changes.



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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 4:33:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I personally go for a few different aspects, I look for guitarists who arent just technically sound, but also have a background of other instruments for a more versitile musical talent, preferably classical backgrounds, also as important is influence on music from thier own works [Hendrix of course was the innovator] not just other guitarists mind you but all rock in general. Once in a while the innovater gets passed up, such as how Eddie Van Halen was influenced by Clapton but soon whizzed right past him.

My personal pick is that I have Hendrix and Eddie tied for first [I mean cmon, who can compete with Eruption?]

as for three I wanna say Jimmy page cause he fits into how much he influenced other things, though I feel he is tied in actual technical skill with the likes of Steve Vai

As for Satriani I dunno i'm just not as impressed by him, he does have alot more influence in that he directly taught a bunch of guys but as for the actual music, I dunno it seems a bit lacking in comparison to the rest I listed above.

As for the rest, I dunno guys, if they can be beaten by Santana or Prince [Fuckin Prince for chirstsakes guys!] I dunno if they should even be mentioned. "cough" slash *cough*

I think a good way to judge is if you listen to a song specifically for the gutiar instead of the rest of the band as can be said with Van Halen and Hendrix. If it stands on its own then you know you got the makings of the greatest gutiars of all time, hell rock gods.

And yeah, before any of you say it, yeah yeah Tigers got a hard on for Van Halen.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 4:49:23 AM   
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 4:59:07 AM   
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 5:36:25 AM   
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2 Hendrix

3 Van Halen

4 Clapton

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 5:43:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		...its always tricky to make such a list...........but perhaps we ought to mention the Edge. i'm actually not an enormous fan of U2  (everything after 'under a blood red sky' is crap) but his style was enormously influential.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 5:48:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ehhhhhhhh....hes alright, would you consider him a rock god, or even a legend however?

I gotta admit I do like the sound he has on New Years Day.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 6:08:54 AM   
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 6:29:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jan Ackerman [Focus] a great technician, Carlos Santana, plays every style superbly.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 6:36:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin
My vote goes for Yngwie Mahlmsteen.


SirK ...people from outer space do not qualify, They have the unfair advantage of five fingers and a thumb !


seeks - a comment which seems again to suggest you dont know what you're talking about - but at the same time does LOL!

Given the way he plays, it is entirely possible that Yngwie has five or more fingers and a thumb, on four or maybe six arms; to listen to him one would think he was playing two or three guitars all at the same time! Strange he's not too well known outside the world of guitar nuts like me. So assuming only position 3 is open, it has to go to him IMO.
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 6:57:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have to admit I dont really know the Swede all too well, his background sounds a little bit like Van Halens..[yeah I know, sorry to bring his name back up again]. Hows he sound?

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 7:08:04 AM   
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Malmenstein (I think thats how its spelt but not sure), is amazing and I am not sure I can really describe in words how he sounds, except to say that it sounds like he's playing two or three instruments at a time!

What made an impression on me was a recording of him playing some high tempo classical piece (dont remember which). He didnt just knock out the tune of it as the likes of me would, but produced the entire piece it seems, including the woodwind, brass and strings scores, all himself and with a lot of flair too!
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 7:19:58 AM   
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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 7:30:39 AM   
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Obviously.

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RE: A debate actually worth having - 9/14/2006 7:52:01 AM   
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