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RE: Cultural Phlosiphy - 9/22/2006 5:36:19 PM

LadyEllen

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I really dont understand it. The Bible is very clear on the rights of the Jewish people to the land of Israel. Its also very clear about slaughtering anyone who gets in the way of the Jewish people in asserting that right.

And the Bible is the absolute, solely reliable truth isnt it? We swear our court testimony to be true upon it, so it has to be, right?

The unHoly Land should be left to those that want it to fight it out. Its the only way they'll settle things I fear - either exterminate one another or come to realise that conflict hurts both sides. Seal the whole place off, air drop all the weapons they each need and let this God from whom they each assert to draw their claims, decide it.

Mind you, when this all powerful God allows little children to be shot in the struggle between two lots of his followers as things are now, it doesnt give me much inspiration for a happy outcome to any escalation. He really must have some sick sense of humour methinks - if he exists at all and this isnt just an entirely ridiculous situation in the first place.

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RE: Cultural Phlosiphy - 9/23/2006 12:48:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

Kedicat, so you seem to believe in the Isrealis want Genocide,"push them all into the sea" delusion...If Isreal wanted to eliminate the Palestinians, they could have done so in about 3 hours at any time for the past 30 years. Why have they not? The fact is Isreal has shown incredible restraint with the hostile nations on its edge. And Isreal has followed every peace deal that it has signed, unless it was broken on the other side first. You did Not address my point that all the land in dispute was held by Arabs, and they refused to allow a Palestinian state to be created. After the 48 war 1/2 of Jerusalem was occupyied by arabs, as well as every inch of Gaza and the West Bank. They are humilated and rousted because thier homes are being used to wage war for the benefit of others. Kedicat How do you explain arafat stealing 12 Billion dollars from the Palestinian people? They have been used as pawns....

Palestine 1920
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BritishMandatePalestine1920.jpg

1922
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Palestine_frontier_1922.png

1947 Jewish areas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Jewish_zones_1947.jpg

UN plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1947-UN-Partition-Plan-1949-Armistice-Comparison.png

1993. What is left of Palestine west ank, and how much of it is was under Israeli use and control. It has gotten much worse.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/jewish_land_use.gif

Consider the yellow areas are also Israeli control in 93, just not actively used. And I wonder what a Military/Nature reserve might be like?

Why the hell are the Palestinians upset? What did they lose? Gee, suck it up huh?

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RE: Cultural Phlosiphy - 9/23/2006 12:11:12 PM

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Again, If Isreal wanted to eliminate the Palestinains they could have, in a few hours. They have Atom bombs, no state could stop them. They haven't. All the land in your maps was invaded by other Arabs, and held for decades, and they refused to allow the area to become a Palestinian State. East Jerusalem was occuppied by Pan arabic millitaries with the apporval of the Arab Leauge for decades. No state was set up, it was used as a base for war and terror attacks. And the Palestinians were/still are being used as pawns for Pan Arabic leaders, and for a time the USSR. Is the point that you just want to eliminate Isreal?

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