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respect.... - 9/22/2006 2:56:34 AM

littlemissub

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Do submissives or slaves deserve it? And if so, under what circumstances?

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 2:59:55 AM

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Why wouldn't anyone deserve respect? Especially when handing it out to someone who may not deserve it themselves?
Just because someone brands themselves a title doesn't make it so.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 3:22:57 AM

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i personally feel everyone deserves respect whether they are Dom, sub, male, female, white, black etc etc. Of course there is playtime when you ACT like that there is no respect, ie roleplays etc etc

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 3:26:01 AM

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Everyone deserves a certain level of respect. If i felt that a Dom/Master didn't respect me or treat me with respect, there would be no relationship. Just because one is submissive, does not make one a doormat.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 3:34:57 AM

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yes i feel they do. When you look at the actual definition of respect : To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem. ; that alone to me signifies that if someone chooses to be with me and chooses to take me as their submissive or even simply playmate for the night then there is already a level of respect present. To look even further at respect of a noun just makes it more obvious to me that respect is a part of the game always for both parties involved wheater Dominant or submissive :

Willingness to show consideration or appreciation.
Polite expressions of consideration or deference

This is not even factoring in things like the fact that in wiitwd one must be careful in whom they chose to play with and even come out to as that person can turn around and smear their name amongst 'vanilla' society.

Again these are just my thoughts and feelings and I am aware this is only one line of thought but its how I took the question.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 3:40:25 AM

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I deserve respect just as much as anyone else.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 3:43:03 AM

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If you don't respect someone, or they you, then you shouldn't be associating with them.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 4:22:37 AM

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Here's an opinion that's sure to rankle a few feathers.......

Submission (and slavery to a greater extent), whether it be in a play 'bottom' sense or in the traditional relationship sense, exposes that's person vulnerabilities. Creative and/or sadistic dominants have at their availability the submissive's physical vulnerability and emotional and psychological vulnerability.

One false step of one sort or another, and something bad can happen. I'm not saying anything there that we don't already understand in one fashion or another.

But subs/slaves offer that willingly, gracefully, and to a greater or lesser extent calmly.

Even beyond garden-variety respect, that shows courage. Tremendous courage.

As for respect? To me, because this openness, this willingness to experience the best and worst of what we have to offer, there is not enough respect in the world that can be paid these people.

Put a hungry, needing (not to read 'needy') submissive on their knees at my feet? Don't tell anyone, but I'm in AWE.

Of course I have to get over that feeling to allow the whipping to begin. But that feeling is ALWAYS in my mind and heart.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 4:27:13 AM

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Respect is soemthing tht everyone should both give and get from everyone else.
In a relationship no matter what it is respect needs to be given by those involved in that relationship to make it both work and be enjoyed but trust must go arm in arm with the respect for with out one you do not have the other We feel any way.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 4:34:34 AM

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Most people say respect it earned. I totally disagree. I think that respect is de-earned. I treat everyone with respect until they show me that they dont deserve it.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 4:35:01 AM

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Respect is due to anyone who shows it to others, and its always a two-way street.
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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 5:01:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Respect is due to anyone who shows it to others, and its always a two-way street.
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excellent MsEllen, i agree.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 5:17:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mstrjx

Put a hungry, needing (not to read 'needy') submissive on their knees at my feet? Don't tell anyone, but I'm in AWE.

Of course I have to get over that feeling to allow the whipping to begin. But that feeling is ALWAYS in my mind and heart.

Beautiful sentiment.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 5:53:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlemissub

Do submissives or slaves deserve it? And if so, under what circumstances?

No, no one deserves respect. Respect is earned from the people who give it to another. This goes for Doms as much as it goes for subs, slave, police officers, soldiers and so on.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 6:04:14 AM

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It is interesting to see all these submissives who say they deserve respect from the dominant. If the roles were reversed, and the dominant was the one saying they deserved the respect, would you all agree then?

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 6:39:24 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

It is interesting to see all these submissives who say they deserve respect from the dominant. If the roles were reversed, and the dominant was the one saying they deserved the respect, would you all agree then?

Absolutely.

As Dmonyar said, and I agree with him completely. Respect is something I show to everyone upon first meeting. Someone has to do something to earn my DISrespect.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 7:13:50 AM

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Anyone who earns respect deserves respect.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 7:26:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlemissub
Do submissives or slaves deserve it? And if so, under what circumstances?

When not in a specific relationship as a slave to someone- they deserve the same respect you'd give anyone with any orientation.

When in a specific relationship as a slave to someone- they deserve the respect to be treated as a slave, as defined by those within the relationship.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 7:40:13 AM

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Respect:
To relate to and demonstrate courteous honor and/or esteem or project another is held in high dutiful regard and/or admiration.
Certainly, a mental emotional attitude of this nature is an earned product but all to often respect is confused with the social mandates of courteousness and politeness. Everyone is entitled to be treated with highly varying degrees of politeness and curtsey but only in the content of ones character can the worthiness of respect, be determined.

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RE: respect.... - 9/22/2006 7:56:28 AM

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yes and no...bear with me here...

Definition: a : high or special regard : ESTEEM

I do not have a high or special regard for everyone I meet off the bat, therefore I can not say that I respect everyone I meet off the bat. For me, respect is earned and grows or dissipates with time once it is earned.

A submissive who I own will have my respect. I could not imagine getting to that point without me respecting him or her.

I also have respect for other submissives based on their actions that I have observed.

I have respect for particular dominants, vanilla people, coworkers, etc who have demonstrated characteristics that would lead me to hhold them in special regard.

I think respect is something different than courtesy which I believe all people deserve immediately. I can exhibit proper social graces, be pleasant, generous and kind to complete strangers. However, that does not mean I hold them in special regard immediately.

I realize for some this might be arguing semantics. What is really important is not what term you use for it but the actions your portray and how one deals with others in every day life. Call it what you wish.

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