zenofeller -> RE: The problem with pro femdoms (9/29/2006 3:27:55 PM)
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utter nonsense. firstly, the idea that it's a male job to actually "develop" mutual respect with a woman, date her, god forbid - COURT her, and win affection is crud. i don't see any reason why it couldn't, or shouldn't be a female job. that reason certainly can't be the fact that women are in short supply. they are not. that reason also certainly can't be that female sex drive is in short supply comparative to the male. it is not. creating artificial standards that women and women only have to follow (she has to be this tall, weigh this much, be this shaved, breasts this big so forth) only works so far. sure, it artificially diminishes supply so that an outdated model (the woman for sale) is perpetuated, but at the cost of admiting that only some women are marketable. if most women alive aren't, then it's not really about women, is it. besides, people are bound to observe eventually that fashion magazine grade beauty fails to deliver. but at any rate, the woman that needs to be wined and dined in fact only needs to be shown the door. quote:
He can't reconcile why, if she wants THIS as much as he does, does she not just do it for free? there simply is no reconciling. as long as she's in it for the money, she's in it for the money. quote:
This "Why won't a woman dominate me for free?" lament has a simple analogy. Imagine a guy saying, "Why won't any woman fuck me? I know many want and like sex, so why not fuck me when I walk up to them and proposition me? The only ones that say yes then ask for cash! Those whores!" Well, it's obvious. Women might LOVE sex just as much as men do, but generally they like some substance behind it, and don't fuck random guys without at least being attracted to them, friends with them, or romantic with them. The ones that DO fuck random guys with no strings attached are out there, but chances are they are fucking the men they find hot and attractive who have a big charisma factor -- or, they don't really care who they fuck, have no self esteem and a variety of other issues that probably make them unattractive to men. you seem to presume that the guy you're talking about is so completely bereft of any qualities, in fact by definition incapable of sparking any interest in any woman. this, i suspect, has to do with your personal outlook on men, and not with anything else. the criticism against pay per view "femdoms" remain, and are numerous. 1. if you pay she's not dominating anyone. you are. it's the equivalent of being a fat cat and making a starlet suck you off in the restaurant, except your fetish is not restaurant suck but whips and canes. 2. there is no difference between for-pay femdom and for-pay whoredom. in fact most competent whores are perfectly capable of acting out at least basic bdsm scenes. exactly what niche is then left ? 3. there can exist no relationship. even if people are very inclined to fool themselves on the subject, there can never be a relationship. that's why relationships are forbidden in the workplace. that's why psychologists are held to not get involved with patients. to the extent for hire femdom impersonators are anything more than two bit whores, they have similar rules. 4. it is still illegal in many places to exchange money over sexual favors. therefore, to remain this side of prison, most of them will not do anything that could be considered sexual. bdsm without sex ? how about checks with no signature. 5. it is certainly not clear that this imbalance (namely, that male dominants, many of them good at it, would never consider charging, whereas female dominants, from what i hear many of them good at it, would rarely consider pro bono) does not indicate a certain lack of affective capacity of the female. this last point being the most pungent problem in the entire block. are women simply not capable of love, at least not to the extent and depth men are ?
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