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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,
Not so, A:
There is such a thing as Popular Opinion and Popular Belief AND cries and hues of righteous indignation by ill informed hotheads and ignoramuses, and believe me,
that carries alot more freight in this day and age of reason than any old fuckin' matter of truth.
Ron
They might carry more weight to a Republican. But to a Democrat? I do not buy that. Not a party that is so anti-war. Does not make any sense. Especially from a man they do not like. Over half the Democratic side of the Senate voted in favor. I am not a Bush fan, and I am not prepared to give him that much credit when he can barely spit two words out of his mouth without tripping over his tongue. Rather, I think he provided some compelling evidence that something was indeed going on. He had to have. The USA was not the only country that had intelligence and arrived at the same conclusion.
Hello A/all,
Actually, the USA provided the evidence to other countries for them to decide whether to go to war. This, of course, only included evidence to suggest invasion was the only option. Spain, England, and a couple of island countries in the south Pacific signed on to the Coalition of the Willing.
Everybody else wanted to continue sanctions and inspections.
On a positive note, you can buy Freedom Fries in the cafeteria in Congress.
The evidence included things like evidence of a yellowcake sale originating in Nigeria which was later proven to be false.
The purchase of aluminum tubing which the Bush administration insisted would be used to refine the aluminum. Then when it was shown that the aluminum tubing had a coating which would have to be machined off to use it for uranium purification, the Bush administration insisted it would be used to make nuclear missiles. That is known as Bait and Switch, and is a common sales tactic used to confuse one's "mark." In this case, their intent was to try to confuse everybody on the planet.
Much of the evidence presented to the United Nations came from the man (whose name escapes me at the moment) who had been lobbying the White House for 10-15 years to invade Iraq. He was given a lie detector test about the evidence he was providing in Thailand and the CIA examiner determined he was lying. Bush, et al, used his evidence anyway as proof we should go to war.
If you are interested, you can look up a fascinating article on a Mr. Rendon entitled "The Man Who Sold The War" in a past issue of Rolling Stone. The United States congress, the United States people, etc., were sold a war by the Bush Administration based on evidence which was known false, known ambiguous, and relatively scant at best. The fact that the United Nations refused to sign on to an international invasion should be some form of evidence that the "proof" was pretty sketchy to the rest of the world.
Confirmation bias: The refusal to allow anything to enter one's consciousness which might imply that the conclusion one is biased towards is incorrect. If you look up the definition in the dictionary, I suspect it has been updated with Monkeyboy's picture.
A lot of Democrats supported Bush going to war. This was probably due to them putting their political aspirations ahead of their common sense, and going along with the United States shock reaction to 9/11. One of the reasons I was involved in Marcy Winograd's attempt to take the Democratic nomination away from Jane Harmon. I dont think very highly of people who use other people's emotional reactions and tragedies for personal gain.
Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.
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Give Me a break. I would have thought people on this board would have been smarter than that, but this is not the first time I have seen it here.
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