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biblicalfury -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/3/2006 9:51:04 AM)
I should point out that I didn't get 'serviced' at the massage place I visited. As I was worshiping her feet, I never touched her too far past the ankle and her feet never went below my shoulders. Besides a quick hug she offered as I was leaving, that's all the touching that went on. I did masturbate while I was there, but there was no assistance. I don't know if that's typical, but it was my experience.

EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/3/2006 1:15:43 PM)
i suggest you go see a pro domme if you can afford her, and if you don't want to commit to a full time commitment which is what most lifestyle dommes are seeking and expect. lifestyle dommes, such as myself, get inundated by a lot of males that don't want to commit to us on a full time or contractual basis, yet they want a few kinky hours at their discretion. that's not fair to us if they merely want to see on THEIR leisure without any real term commitment. like the others said.. don't expect sex from a pro domme.. or actually even a lifestyler. good luck.. just be upfront with whomever you choose to approach. edited to add.. maxfisch is a good place to look.. .. also google any pro domme you go to see.. just see if she is on the up and up

MistressDolly -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/3/2006 1:18:16 PM)
Hi biblicalfury, If I were you, I would read some books as the FIRST step in your journey. Try: The Story of O, The Trainer, The MarketPlace, Female Dominance, The Loving Dom or The Art of Sensual Dominance, etc.... . You don't necessarily have to see a professional just becuz you're a newbie. What are you looking for? If you're looking for a relationship based on this lifestyle - you may want to invest some time in posting a good profile and state what you're looking for, join some local munches, etc. However, if you're looking for a temporary distraction from your vanilla life, a reputable proDominatrix could be your answer. Good luck!

yugla -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:05:28 AM)
Biblicalfury,Biblicalfury, Think about this before you meet a pro domme. Who is really the slave? $he wants your money and you want something in your life satisfied. Is this really the mindset of achieving subspace? If you did not pay her would she still meet with you? Reading the replies so far I can see the many pro domes who egg you on that this is a GREAT WAY TO GET A TASTE or SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING, etc. It is not. A group of for hire _ _ _ _ _ giving you their opinion and thoughts is not a debate but a one sided marketing tactic to help their own kind. If you are of a dominant mind set and $500 is a drop in the bucket then by all means YOU use them for YOUR needs. Be Well

Jasmyn -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:06:58 AM)
Once again someone without a clue offers a few

ModeratorEleven -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:11:40 AM)
This thread is not going to turn into another 'bash the pros' thread. XI

Jasmyn -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:19:46 AM)
sincerely hopes that indignant piece of a your sniffing is your own and not mine or the moderators ;)

joyinslavery -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:22:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn sincerely hopes that indignant piece of a your sniffing is your own and not mine or the moderators ;) Could you translate that in English?

Zinja2007 -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 8:09:08 AM)
Thank you!

submit2one -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 9:35:55 AM)
Spending time and a little money with a well seasoned and skilled Pro Domme is one of the very best ways to discover activities you enjoy and perhaps a few you might want to avoid in the world of BDSM. I expected a lot of negative responses because CM posts usually flame Pro Domme's, but I've noticed that most of those posts are from male sub wannabe's who equivocate a BDSM Professional with some level of prostitution. Generally speaking, I've found that those who are most vehemently opposed to Pro Domme activities have some other zealous agenda they're trying to promulgate, and their opinionated negative posts *rarely, if ever*, speak from experience. I apprenticed to a renowned Domina many years ago. She was no hooker, honey, believe Me! She was a consummate professional teacher, coach, counselor and caregiver. You would be priviledged to have an opportunity to serve such a Pro, were you fortunate enough to locate one like Her. The small professional service fee you would pay couldn't begin to compare to the number of mistakes, heartaches, and foibles you'd be able to avoid, as opposed to having to bumble your way into BDSM activities on your own, without a Pro to guide you. As others have already pointed out, selecting a well respected Pro is the key to your success. Choose wisely, not solely from the web, find someone who can give you real life references. Having said all of the above, your ID of 'biblicalfury' seems rather at odds with your initial post. Perhaps you did not quite receive the response you hoped for in my reply? ; ) submit2one, formerly somethingorother

SexyFemDom -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 9:52:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: submit2one Spending time and a little money with a well seasoned and skilled Pro Domme is one of the very best ways to discover activities you enjoy and perhaps a few you might want to avoid in the world of BDSM. I expected a lot of negative responses because CM posts usually flame Pro Domme's, but I've noticed that most of those posts are from male sub wannabe's who equivocate a BDSM Professional with some level of prostitution. Generally speaking, I've found that those who are most vehemently opposed to Pro Domme activities have some other zealous agenda they're trying to promulgate, and their opinionated negative posts *rarely, if ever*, speak from experience. [;)]YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY correct I apprenticed to a renowned Domina many years ago. She was no hooker, honey, believe Me! She was a consummate professional teacher, coach, counselor and caregiver. You would be priviledged to have an opportunity to serve such a Pro, were you fortunate enough to locate one like Her. The small professional service fee you would pay couldn't begin to compare to the number of mistakes, heartaches, and foibles you'd be able to avoid, as opposed to having to bumble your way into BDSM activities on your own, without a Pro to guide you. [;)] I AGREE As others have already pointed out, selecting a well respected Pro is the key to your success. Choose wisely, not solely from the web, find someone who can give you real life references. [;)] submit2one, formerly somethingorother WELL SAID!

SexyFemDom -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 9:59:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Once again someone without a clue offers a few I'M WITH YOU!

MstrssScarlet -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 10:34:12 AM)
When I was a lifestyle domme, I rarely considered anyone who had not had at least SOME experience. Since I've become a pro domme, I find I enjoy the newbies a great deal. There is a huge difference between what I expected then and what I'm willing to offer now. I will generally go very slow with them, explaining things as I go. Sometimes they find a domme they want a long term relationship with and I am their only reference. Mistress Scarlet

yugla -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 11:49:28 AM)
You (in the plural, vous) seemed to have missed my intended perspective of the advice to biblicalfury. A male sub cannot pay for submission. By that very act it makes the slave the Master as HE is the boss giving the paycheck. Lifestyle not pro is the distinguishing difference. Biblicalfury states he is a newbie to this and biblicalfury was asking for opinions. Considering the immediate level of hatred against my post I hope you (Biblicalfury) are very cautious of whom you choose to meet; one who enjoys and lives this life style or one who does it so long as it is a paying job? Be careful PS my first reply was NOT pointed at IN REPLY TO: DOLLY – but it appears that from this browser I can not specify IN REPLY TO : Biblicalfury. So nor is this post directed to MistressScarlet. ALL posts were directed to Biblicalfury

stef -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 12:59:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yugla You (in the plural, vous) seemed to have missed my intended perspective of the advice to biblicalfury. A male sub cannot pay for submission. By that very act it makes the slave the Master as HE is the boss giving the paycheck. By that logic, you are the master of your plumber, mechanic, accountant or other service provider? I don't think so. In this situation, it's a moot point anyway since biblicalfury never said he was searching for submission, he was looking to "try a few things out and see how I like them as something of an introduction to the lifestyle". For that, a pro can be ideal. quote: Lifestyle not pro is the distinguishing difference. Biblicalfury states he is a newbie to this and biblicalfury was asking for opinions. Considering the immediate level of hatred against my post I hope you (Biblicalfury) are very cautious of whom you choose to meet; one who enjoys and lives this life style or one who does it so long as it is a paying job? Hatred? Where are you seeing hatred? quote: PS my first reply was NOT pointed at IN REPLY TO: DOLLY – but it appears that from this browser I can not specify IN REPLY TO : Biblicalfury. If you click the 'reply' link at the top of the message you widh to reply to rather than the 'Post Reply' link at the top and bottom of the page, it will correctly set the 'in reply to' line. ~stef

cloudboy -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 5:21:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef By that logic, you are the master of your plumber, mechanic, accountant or other service provider? ~stef My neighbor is want to say, "He who pays the piper calls the tune."

LTRsubNW -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 6:01:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Some of the things I've heard the local girls talk about have made my hair curl ... like the 'Coffin Man' ... wanting the girl to be laid out in white, veil over her head, blankets rolled up and down either side of her body to form a coffin, holding a rose , to not move while he does his thing ... though least he wasn't disturbing the dead ...one hopes! Wow! (This makes my fantasy of being mauled by a 300 lb {naked} orangutan after having been doused in 12 gallons of 97 octane petrol while 17 young nubile waifs throw lit sparklers at me seem tame).

MizSuz -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/5/2006 7:26:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: biblicalfury As to some of the specific points made, I do realize that there won't be any intercourse and this won't be the same as experiencing BDSM with someone in a relationship. I think it's probably a good fit for me, though. I'm completely inexperienced and I think it makes sense to try this out and get a sense of what I like and don't like before I go out and try to find a relationship with a Mistress. You sound very clear headed, to me. As everyone, including yourself, has said - do your homework. Novices used to contact me for 'toybox tours.' They can be a lot of fun and quite insightful.

MizSuz -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/6/2006 4:52:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yugla I hope you (Biblicalfury) are very cautious of whom you choose to meet; one who enjoys and lives this life style or one who does it so long as it is a paying job? Does your post also include the possibility that you can find someone who enjoys and lives the lifestyle and ALSO makes it their paying job? When I was a pro (and it's been some years now since I took any new clients or even considered anyone as a client) my entire life was immersed in BDSM. It was my social life, my personal life and my professional life. I don't know of any non-pros who get as much exposure to the myriad forms in which BDSM can manifest as most lifestyle/ pros do. It always amuses me when someone suggests there is a default disparity between a lifestyler and a pro. I always find myself struggling against a rebuttal assumption that the disparager probably doesn't know any reputable pros. The assumption that payment to a pro makes the bottom the top is erroneous, more often than not it is simply wrong. The assumption that payment negates submission is erroneous as well (even though the OP didn't mention submission). Of course you'd actually have to be in a relationship with a reputable pro to understand the difference and I'm not going to turn this into an argument with someone who evidently doesn't have that experience from which to draw. Mental masturbation is often a fun exercise in "what if" and usually makes for a nice jaunt through self rightous indignation and/ or condescension, but it doesn't necessarily make for good advice. As for your blanket statement that the women advocating seeing a pro have a personal agenda, you're wrong there too. I advocate it and I haven't been a pro for about 5 years. You haven't considered the experienced (with pros) male bottoms who also responded positively to the notion. Your circuitous and erroneous logic suggests a lack of experience regarding reputable pros. The fact that you are a male dominant doesn't defuse the suggestion.

jimbo747 -> RE: Should I See a Pro Domme? (10/6/2006 5:27:32 AM)
[quote]ORIGINAL: MizSuz quote: ORIGINAL: yugla I hope you (Biblicalfury) are very cautious of whom you choose to meet; one who enjoys and lives this life style or one who does it so long as it is a paying job? Does your post also include the possibility that you can find someone who enjoys and lives the lifestyle and ALSO makes it their paying job? When I was a pro (and it's been some years now since I took any new clients or even considered anyone as a client) my entire life was immersed in BDSM. It was my social life, my personal life and my professional life. I don't know of any non-pros who get as much exposure to the myriad forms in which BDSM can manifest as most lifestyle/ pros do. It always amuses me when someone suggests there is a default disparity between a lifestyler and a pro. I always find myself struggling against a rebuttal assumption that the disparager probably doesn't know any reputable pros. The assumption that payment to a pro makes the bottom the top is erroneous, more often than not it is simply wrong. The assumption that payment negates submission is erroneous as well (even though the OP didn't mention submission). Of course you'd actually have to be in a relationship with a reputable pro to understand the difference and I'm not going to turn this into an argument with someone who evidently doesn't have that experience from which to draw. Mental masturbation is often a fun exercise in "what if" and usually makes for a nice jaunt through self rightous indignation and/ or condescension, but it doesn't necessarily make for good advice. As for your blanket statement that the women advocating seeing a pro have a personal agenda, you're wrong there too. I advocate it and I haven't been a pro for about 5 years. You haven't considered the experienced (with pros) male bottoms who also responded positively to the notion. Your circuitous and erroneous logic suggests a lack of experience regarding reputable pros. The fact that you are a male dominant doesn't defuse the suggestion. _______________________________________________ Pardon me, but yugla is out to lunch. Infering that a woman can only be pro and not simultaneously be lifestyle as well is not only erroneous, it's ridiculous. " A woman can enjoy this lifestyle AND also do it professionally as well. And what does subspace have to do with anything???? A sub can't reach it unless it's non-professional??? Another pro basher who has no clue what this lifestyle is about. To him it's an orgasm and that's where it ends. Pros are here becuz sometimes we dont want anything more than a temporary trip to subspace without having to be in a commited or semi-commited relationship, or maybe we're looking to explore different aspects of the play, etc

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