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Level -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 3:26:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

the yard is not fenced. nor did i know what day they care coming.

i heard in California- you are not allowed to chain your dog 3 hours or longer.

Sheba did not chase the metter reader. im NOT the only one in town with a dog.

if my dog bites someone i am liable. i realize that.  but if i own my own yard- i dont think the town can tell me to leash her, control her yes- but not to restrain her.

Sheba ran up to her like she had food.  if the cable man or phone man are coming i know in advance and can put her in her pen. i wont pen her up just cos someone "says" she must be. its mean.

i did not argue with the woman. but i did not apoligise to her either.

now had she acted strange- per haps my dog might have went after her. with Sheba if she growls and shows her teeth then that is a clear warning sign.  she let my brother in when i wasnt home. that was ok with her. BUT when my brohter rummaged thru my tool box sheba showed her teeth and growled. to her he was violating my space.

my water bill is seldom out of the ballpark. 1 person usuage. no pool- no watering the lawn. it is always with in a small useage.

i dont like her attitude.   why would anyone want to OWN- if thier werent more rights then renting>?


Cities can have leash laws. There's one here, in fact; if the dog is not in a fence, it has to be on a leash.



KatyLied -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 3:54:05 PM)

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Cities can have leash laws. There's one here, in fact; if the dog is not in a fence, it has to be on a leash.


That's how it is in my little town.  And wouldn't you rather have your dog out of the meter reader's way?  Why chance something bad happening (I don't believe in a dog that never bites).



PlayfulOne -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 3:56:01 PM)

If the dog is loose in an unfenced yard while you are in the house, that is not going to be considered under control.

K



spanklette -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 4:08:18 PM)

This is the second post that you've made about someone complaining that your dog was not on a leash. No...I don't consider chaining or tethering a good option as a replacement for supervision. As a responsible pet owner, you need to make it your business to keep your animals out of compromising situations.
 
This is one of my pet peeves, being an owner of a pit bull. He's the sweetest guy you'd ever meet, but I make sure to keep him out of situations where his confidence will be tested. For example, when he is unleashed (rarely) I keep him at my side so that I will be able to help him react calmly to interlopers, such as meter readers. This is responsibility to my dog, not to others. If he is in a situation to be a danger to himself or someone else, the blame lies squarely on my shoulders.

We will be unable to offer you the best solution, as we are all unfamiliar with your particular situation. But, you must reach a solution. This is not a good situation. I know you would hate to have your dog accused of being aggressive, so don't put her in that situation. Sheba deserves that consideration. 



ShiftedJewel -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 4:17:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyrdRich

    "Beware of Dog" signs are problematic.  It suggests you know the animal can be dangerous.  I use a sign that says "security dog on duty."

   Mine is boundary trained and will not leave the yard without permission, but I still keep him inside or in the fenced back unless I am outside with him.  Sounds to me like your meter reader has an attitude problem. 


Even that could be a problem... it implies that the dog is a trained security animal... a better sign would be one that simply says "dog on property". It doesn't imply anything, it's just a simple statement.
 
Jewel



pahunkboy -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 5:41:48 PM)

on garbage day- i know the garbage man is coming. i know the mail comes 11:30-12:30 6 days a week.

for the meter reader to have the attitude- so if she stepped in the poop and her pants needed drycleaning maybe sheld send the bill.

there is 1001 ways for a chain to break. i learn that thru experience.

the mailman knows Sheba he tosses her a treat every time the meet- maybe every 6 weeks.

the meter is where u stick in a probe to read it- it cant be read with the eye. water meter.

im uptight now. the property is on the market. 2 possible buyers have surfaced. so i might have to move sooner then i planned. ill go to western PA. someone said to rent before i buy. well if i rent- i likely cant bring my dog. yikes



Sinergy -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 6:14:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

i want to complain. the meter reader told me my dog is supposed to be on a leash- even on private property in her own yard!
i have beware of dog signed clearly denoting a dog. i dont appreciate her walking on the newly seeded grass... i feel like putting up an 8 foot privacy fence.

the gall!


Leash or fence, your call.  I am not sure how that applies to wireless fences, but I suggest you call city hall and ask.

However, I am a firm believer that the dog should have the run of the yard.  They are a dog, after all, man's best friend, etc.

The sub should be leashed and naked at all times, however.

Just me, etc.

Sinergy



MrDiscipline44 -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 7:18:20 PM)

Personally, if I'm in a neighborhood with a loose dog and it shows that it's going to be a problem, the owner can either leash it, fence (house) it or loose it. It's their choice and it would be backed by the local authorities. You should check with yours to see what recourse you have.



MasterAtsushi -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 7:33:34 PM)

There are worse situations...I have a Staffordshire and moved to Kansas, not knowing that they are banned in most towns/counties here.  In fact, any dog that so much as resembles a Pit is banned in much of this area. So needless to say, finding a place to rent was a total pain! 



spanklette -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 7:46:02 PM)

In order to get both of my dogs into a rental, I had to have them certified as "Outstanding Canine Citizens". Boudreaux is actually a shepherd/pit mix. Charlie is a Rottweiler mix.
 
The local ASPCA will have behavioral challenges to test their demeanor. Both of mine passed with flying colors, and this has helped immensely with prospective landlords. When I apply for a place, I always have a copy of their certificates handy. It won't change anyone's mind, but it will help with those that are on the fence about allowing my dogs.

Of course, if they can't go, I don't go.  



MasterAtsushi -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 8:15:25 PM)

My Staff is a certified service animal and is till banned



spanklette -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 8:33:24 PM)

Wow...I didn't think it was legal to ban service animals as long as they are in service to their owner.



MrrPete -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 8:42:25 PM)

I love dogs but they are too high maintenance for me
and that's why I have a cat. I keep him indoors as there
is a major truck route outside my front door. 18 wheel
cattle trucks go by 24/7 and I don't want him to end up
as roadkill.



perverseangelic -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 8:44:24 PM)

If your yard is not fenced, your dog should not be in the yard without supervision. Period.

While I think it's silly to require a dog on a leash in his/her own yard, to have an off-leash dog in an unfenced yard is asking for trouble. No matter how well trained the dog is, if someone's not watching him/her, accidents can happen in a split second.



servantforuse -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 8:51:58 PM)

We have to do repairs to Phone cables in many backyards where we never have anappointment to a customers house. Phone poles and buried cables go thru everyones property and we need access to do our work..



bigjohnson -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 9:07:04 PM)

My dogs have a yard to run around in and it is fenced with a barbed wire fence around all 500 acres. Honestly if anyone comes out to our house to do anything we know about it before they have turned onto our drive. Granted my dogs are extremely friendly, but with me living 50 miles from the nearest town they serve as a door bell. I know it seems crude but in Wyoming things are WAY different than in other towns. My dogs are hunting dogs that need to run around and smell things which I have no problem with because I spent months training them to come when i blow a whistle, but this is on an extremely rural scale. I can see how it is different in more urban environments



MasterAtsushi -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 9:12:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: spanklette

Wow...I didn't think it was legal to ban service animals as long as they are in service to their owner.

One would think not, but I spoke to the attorneys for the city in question and they assured me that there have been no exceptions put into place, nor are they planning to do so.



spanklette -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 9:22:45 PM)

That just seems so odd. So they allow service animals, depending on breed?



MasterAtsushi -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 9:28:02 PM)

Service animals are not banned, unless they happen to be a Pit, Staffordshire, Rottie, or happen to resemble any of these breeds in appearance. They are really doing a number on the poor Pits here, killing them. About a month ago they did a big round up and killed around 30 of them. Damn near broke my heart to watch the news 



spanklette -> RE: chain your dog or not? (10/2/2006 9:37:39 PM)

In their defense, pit bulls can become quite viscious when not trained and cared for properly. Even then, they can be predisposed to violence. Proper care must be taken with them, so that they are a good example of the breed. I adopted mine from the pound, both of them with abusive pasts. They have grown into loving dogs, but they are animals.
 
All of that being said...check out the ADA web site. I'm fairly sure it's discrimination when banning for breed. I don't know all of your particulars, but I would look into it.

My landlord has been great. She loves my boys, although, she wasn't thrilled when she originally found out their breed. She contacted her homeowners insurance and presented their certificates which is why we ended up getting the condo.
 
Good luck finding a place!



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