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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 9:06:55 AM   
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I will generally not judge acts as inherently sick or unhealthy..... what is important to me is the conseqence of the act.  To some a particular act could be very enjoyable and some it would be extremely harmful.   This is not to say that I will not find some acts distasteful or not somthing that I find interesting, but I will not simply label them as sick just because I don't like them.

I love your logic here.  I periodically hear judgments about how my Master shouldn't do this or that to/with me, and to me the judgments are off base.  I try to explain, He does it because I thrive on that.  I understand there are things that others experience which would be detrimental to me, just as there are things I experience which would be detrimental to another.  This concept goes beyond "gross" physical acts.  It's just like some do well with humiliation while others do not.  Some do well with severe pain while others do not.  Etc.  What you say makes perfect sense to me - it depends on the context and on the consequence.  Thank you for explaining that.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 9:17:59 AM   
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How can you agree with the OP, who is basically condeming any type of discrimination for any type of act,  and then state that its ok to consider something sick ("unhealthy" as you put it) if it meets your particular criteria?.
 

This is not to say that I will not find some acts distasteful or not somthing that I find interesting, but I will not simply label them as sick just because I don't like them.


But you will "label" something as "distasteful". Correct?  Which I think was the heart of the matter; describing things in a negative way.  I dont think it was specifically about describing something only as "sick".  But about finding certain acts as sick, distasteful, gross, icky or whatever negative term is used.  My point is that we all can think of some things that we consider "over the edge" either because we consider them distasteful, sick, disgusting or whathave you.  Would you agree?

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 11:58:32 AM   
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 12:04:57 PM   
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But you will "label" something as "distasteful". Correct?  Which I think was the heart of the matter; describing things in a negative way.  I dont think it was specifically about describing something only as "sick".  But about finding certain acts as sick, distasteful, gross, icky or whatever negative term is used.  My point is that we all can think of some things that we consider "over the edge" either because we consider them distasteful, sick, disgusting or whathave you.  Would you agree?


seeing something as distasteful to me... is much different than Saying something is Sick.  I find spinach highlly distasteful... but there are some that like the taste.  It just doesn't appeal to me.  It's not to make derogatory judgements of others that happen to like spinach.

So no it is not a negative way of describing others... it's is describing my own personal perference towards doing a given activity for me!  However, at the same time... I have watch things that are distasteful for me.. but I actually enjoy watching others do those same sort of things and take enjoyment from it.

No I don't agree... You want it to be ok to judge a specific activity as SICK.  You want to be ok to say an given Activity is Sick.  Regardless of what the consequence is for others that happen to take great enjoyment for the activity.

As a note... the only thing I consider over the edge is when one's Well-being is and will be knowningly be harmed by engaging in the activity.  I don't judge the activity just because it is not to my tastes.  Some like spinach some do not.  But just because some like it doesn't make them sick... just means that I have a different taste in this specific area than them.

I find it troublsome some of the narrow limits and preferences that many project on others as value judgements.  I concede that my own moral judgement with regards to everyone being entitled to a healthy well-being is projecting a value judgement.  But tell me... is it morally wrong to thing that everyone is entitled to a heathly well-being?  I just draw the line on telling others how they should live to foster their health well-being.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 12:56:08 PM   
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 1:16:15 PM   
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first.  it is not my intention to make you feel devalued in your opinion or yelled at.

second... You stated this....

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I still see it as twisted and perverted-- something out of the norm, but it is, isnt it?


this is the difference in my opinion.  I don't see what I do as twisted or perverted.  I am very comfortable doing what I do.  Maybe some would feel very uncomfortable, Maybe some would feel guilty or ashamed.  But, I don't.  Is what I do out of the norm... yeah I suppose it is... but that doesn't make it twisted or even perverted.  I don't judge myself base on the standards or perferences of society, I judge myself based on my own morality and values.  Personally I don't think you should judge yourself on the standards of others,either.  I know you been flamed and agressively attacked on these boards at various times for your opinions or at least the way you express you opinions.  Personally... I happen to like you... I happen to like alot of what you state or raise.  Doesn't mean that I agree with what you say... but I do admire your courage to speak you thoughts and opinions.  I admire you desire to be a better you... whatever you percieve that as being.

again.. I extend my regrets if what I said came off as derogatory or belittling to you.  When in truth I admire that strenghts I see in you, but I am not unaware of what I percieve as places you need to grow in as well.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/7/2006 5:07:13 PM   
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<you are too fast for me>

You didn't say anything wrong or belittle me at all.  I got sensitive for a minute,  because I sensed you were getting pissed and I didnt want it turn into an argument between us.  

I think what happened was that several points evolved with the developement of the thread and they were all starting to get stirred into one pot. 

 I think you were more focused on the word  Sick, and I at one point was arguing a broader concept, though  maybe I wasn't articulating that correctly.  I understand your point....the one in which ownedgirled agreed with.  But then I read the words of man who sees certain things as "distasteful" and "troublesome" but thinks that no one should see anything as "sick".  That confuses me a little bit because I really don't see much of a fundamental difference between the two.   Maybe the word sick feels more 'judgemental' to you than the other words.  I dont know.

I would also add that even though something may seem over the edge to me, this doesn't mean I am devaluing a person who engages in it, it simply means that I think what they are doing is dangerous or unhealthy.  I have known and respected and loved people who have done things that I thought were downright stupid, nuts, crazy or just plain wrong for whatever reason. 

To take it off of bdsm for a minute might help come to an understanding. Can we say that car racing is dangerous?  If we do, are we judging the car racer himself as a crazy bastard?   He may be risking his life, but he does it because he finds some thrill in it, and it stimulates him.  But are we calling him a nut for risking his life?  Or are we just saying that car racing is dangerous?  Dangerous is subjective though, as is sick, unhealthy, crazy etc. And Im sure those descriptions could be taken as offensive and negative, but still they are not valuations of a person.    As I said, I was thinking more in terms of the general attitude about expressing a negative feeling about something without people freaking out over it, and you were more on the point of not judging someone as "sick" as long as no one is getting hurt. And I do see that. Im not so hung up only on my own point that I dont see yours,  But I think each is a slightly different concept.

So Im glad you caught me red-handed. lol.  And I read your message loud and clear with regard to value of self, and agree.  You deliver your truth with kindness. Thank you.  

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 2:19:22 AM   
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your is the only one i will answer this time. when i wrote my reply i remember how i love hot food. there are some very hot sacues that can burn the mouth so bad and if they get into the eye you will go to the hositpal for sure. as i said on person wrote that they would lift up the hood of a females clitiors and place hot under the hood i thought it was the worse things now am i wrong to express my opinion i am wrong to say i thought that one thing to me was sick? this is how i felt maybe the abuse i had as a child and woman made it worse but i never thought i was be beaten at the gate of cm for expressing my thought on one thing, i never said that anyone here is sick i did say the man who would do othat was sick that is my opinion it would not stop anyone from doing this ever not becasue i said it was sick to me is my opinion so important that susie whom i found made it inot a threead i have been attack but it is ok i am a strong woman but  a weak one would seek and take this to a level that is wild she should had ask me what did i mean what was it that made me feel ill but she did not she stood and got all to attack my opinion this is what this fourm is for and that is it an opinion. i have made the right sorry's to bita she was place in a space where someone who tthougth she could just not say what she did. susie wrote that she told me what she did oh liar i just read it today shame on her lol oh knight you do not want to hear this or read it a master has little time for this but i wanted to explian what i did and you have an opinion i repesct so last letter i will not read anymoe expect what you write
 
thank you for listening
 
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 2:31:49 AM   
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greetings knightsof mist
 
your is the only one i will answer this time. when i wrote my reply i remember how i love hot food. there are some very hot sacues that can burn the mouth so bad and if they get into the eye you will go to the hositpal for sure. as i said on person wrote that they would lift up the hood of a females clitiors and place hot under the hood i thought it was the worse things now am i wrong to express my opinion i am wrong to say i thought that one thing to me was sick? this is how i felt maybe the abuse i had as a child and woman made it worse but i never thought i was be beaten at the gate of cm for expressing my thought on one thing, i never said that anyone here is sick i did say the man who would do othat was sick that is my opinion it would not stop anyone from doing this ever not becasue i said it was sick to me is my opinion so important that susie whom i found made it inot a threead i have been attack but it is ok i am a strong woman but  a weak one would seek and take this to a level that is wild she should had ask me what did i mean what was it that made me feel ill but she did not she stood and got all to attack my opinion this is what this fourm is for and that is it an opinion. i have made the right sorry's to bita she was place in a space where someone who tthougth she could just not say what she did. susie wrote that she told me what she did oh liar i just read it today shame on her lol oh knight you do not want to hear this or read it a master has little time for this but i wanted to explian what i did and you have an opinion i repesct so last letter i will not read anymoe expect what you write
 
thank you for listening
 
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I will not allow you to call me a liar. Go back and read post 56. It clearly says there that I started this thread.

Please check your facts before you post something like this.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 4:39:35 AM   
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how is everyone i am hoping all is well and i await the next wonderful question that may come up i do enjoy many things here and even though my writitng is hard for some. i am working on it as well as drawing and painting portriat which is in water color. i found a wonderful hobby i had brought some minatrue pieces so years ago my twin brougt me i doll house, it was funny she had no ideal i had so much hidden pieces also so of the picecs are not for little ones to play with, i bought a tes set it is so lovely my twin has been getting me more picecs i have two dolls house on is 4 feet high the other is about 3 feet. now my twin is getting more things so i wil need a house another one i build a chair it took some time to get it right but with wood glue i made it i have made food so small it need a maginfing glass to see it. i wonder everyone if i could have a dugeonng in it lol that would be cool and i know some where they have minature things. now my house has no peple but i have on older woman who takes care of the three baby's .
 
i think that being a dominant woman i am other then that much more i have these hobbies because being me is more then a wom,an who search'c for submissive males i u=ejoy it so much a frined sent me a bag of flour and a measureing glass cup it is wonderful i enjoy this so much i do not get mad at anyone if did i would break something.
the second house i have i know a man build it it takes time to put that much love in to wood work i have slingles on the roof top and a crouch on the front and a balony with door leading to each room
 
i mention this becase does anyone else have a hobbies that takes up much of you time i also have a large mint condition stamp sets , hobies that are something you love very much. we are not just dominant and submissive all of the time then again some may make this a hobbie which is ok. i brought a dinner set that has fifty one piece set i was so shock and wow i love it we have a shop call d&jhobby in this area, it has everything from train to planes dolls aall things  that you can just go and go nuts with things so my frined had a old dolls so well build she had her husband mother father builf it from wood from the black forrest in germany i love doll house and this was so well build by hand not a kit, so if you want to have a wonderful hobby try to build a dollhouse you will neve =r for get it nor would the little one whom you may build it for
 
take care all it would be fun to find out what hobbies we each have
 
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 4:41:09 AM   
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If your Master is considering a second slave and you already feel a lack of attention, it's natural that you'd think that it would be diluted even further.

You have spoken to him and he thinks it's *fine*........well, the level of attention may be fine for him but it clearly isn't for you.

With your comment * wanting the confines of your slavery in his hands*......Are you saying that you feel you're self-mastering*?......It's one thing to be *owned* and quite another to be mastered.

I'd recognise the VERY moment that my Master's eye was not on the ball.   If he's offering what he can, then the decisions about what you can accept lay with you.

People can change.........but only if they WANT to....If it's beneficial and means something for him to keep you, then he will make adjustments...if not, he won't. If he has the information and does nothing then you have some kind of answer.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 5:17:51 AM   
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agirl that is a intersting topic a master who wants aanother slave but he is not pauing attention to theone he has? so your submissive or slave and what would you do if this happen to you i do know many submissive change their minds about who wil own them. may i ask how is you master if you are submissive. i run into some males submissive who can not make up their mind i like them just go on about their own.
 
i do not read profile so are it is always fun to know everyone
 
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/8/2006 6:27:28 AM   
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I'm not sure how to post links, but it was in Ask a Master and titled *flip-flopping Dom*.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/10/2006 6:14:49 PM   
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mons is entitled to her opinion.  I think some practices ARE sick.  Let's say someone is a zoophile or a pedophile.  Should this be considered acceptable, because we do not want to step on toes?  Since when did stating your opinion become such a problem on a forum like this one? 
 
I admire anyone who can stand for what they believe, whether it is popular to do so or not. 


i once read a thread started by a male sub who was a 'toilet slave' to his Mistress.  Put bluntly, he freely consumed her shit.  my very first reaction was one of absolute disgust....almost puking at the mere thought.
 
Various members posted about the hygiene of such a practice......and he responded, obviously he had researched the subject.  And the more he spoke so openly about it all, the more i saw that this was HIS fetish....and his Mistresses.  It was consensual between the two of them. 
 
Did i find it digusting?  Absolutely!
Would i ever do that?  Absolutely not!
Did that make me not like him as a person?  Absolutely not!
 
i can separate that which i find a disgusting act and that which i find a disgusting person (use the term 'sick' instead of disgusting.....same thing in a sense).   my ONLY concern is if all parties involved are consensual.  If not, i would also consider someone sick to force this (or any act) on a non consenting individual.
 
This post exempifies non-consensual, which is quite different.  Child molesters....rapists....they are sick because there is not consent on the part of the other involved.  Two different things altogether.
 
Just think of how a vanilla person might judge our chosen lifestyle.  Perhaps they would think we were 'sick' too.  i know when my very vanilla brother found out i was into spanking, and he couldn't imagine that, he might have thought i was one 'sick person'.   And he really didn't know me as a person at all.
 
So what is really 'sick' between 2 consenting adults?
 
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/11/2006 9:19:03 AM   
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greetings now that my post was hijack to a thread i am surpise at what bita felt that this need to be done.

now when i wrote that post  i was speaking of a man who wrote that to a person question how can someone do torture more he worte and  i quote " lift up the hood of her clit and put hot sausce under it and then close it" i found this to be sick by the man i never said anyone sub was sick oh i think i did say it to bita she became very upset. i was not speaking of her, when i wrote this if you look back i never called anyone in this group sick i have been a domme for some years now i seen and heard many thing but not once have i call anyone is this group sick oh but i said some thing are sick not th people. bita has taken this to a new level why and what for i do not know, in this place i have found i can write withpout being attack by anyone until now. if i see something that i think is wrong i will say something that is my right i did not call bita sick i did say whom ever taught her that was sick this was to an answer from her to me now i am on a thread where many of the people now thnk i dislike them which is not true st all so al of you who wrote and said things such as who are you to judge me no folks i never would judge you i am a dominant women i alway havemy turn with a slave or submissivi so let this be the last i hoope all with read this and know a hijack thread is a chicken way of fighting a fight she could not fight alone

be well and know i meant one man statement not all of you who have more then kind to me
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mons

I must point out that it was me and not bita that posted this on this thread. As I said at the start what bothered me in what you wrote was the fact that you labelled someone as sick for taking part in a practice that you do not like. I totally defend your right to say that you do not like the practice that was being discussed or that that it sickened you. What I did not agree with was the fact that you called someone sick for doing this. In fact you emphasised the fact by saying they were a sick sick person and wrong.



Did not see the original post so cannot assess the specific semiotic structure of whatever it is that mons wrote, but I think she's explained herself adequately, and mentioned her motivation, stemming from childhood abuse, perhaps this dredged up some bad memories, and I for one can forgive her.

I discovered this practice by accident - I had been eating some Jalapenjos out of the jar, and the vinegar had penetrated my skin, lingering even after washing up, needing only moisture to reactivate it - my ex it was, and she was climbing the walls I can tell you. Same thing happened to me later with some capsaicin muscle rub - I happened to be scratching my balls while watching TV - that ended up being pretty fucking intense, take my word.

Anyway, no it isn't sick, but it is twisted, heh, and I think I can live with that designation.

So anyway, my point is that a change of subject is probobly in order, I think we can call it an unfortunate choice of words and move on, no?

My hobby  (one of them) is collecting junk and inventing stuff - started with scratch built and model modification as a kid and it sort of grew into an annoying (for the women in my life) obsession: i.e., dumpster diving, etc. - I have shoeboxes full of electromechanical minutia, and the bulkier stuff out in the shed - gives me a sort of a White trash chic, lol.

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/12/2006 3:06:26 AM   
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i had a good laugh i saw the word sniggering it was use in this matter " sniggering in a slavery way"
how common the usage was so funny a common english term used mainly in a common part of england how many of you are engish i do love the word the ganster in england are wonderful how they use speak and bloody over her mean nothing but there is like using cunt or bitich to an english woman or man i llove to read so much i learn many things here i will always come back yes i thought all of maddoan husband moives are great small fact maddona is very short small woman i respect here ok enough i just like knew word and wow that wasone i had to look up in the dic iontary

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/12/2006 4:46:02 AM   
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There are lots of phrases that Americans use here that i'm getting used to now too........such as....* from the get go*.....whereas we'd say * from the start* or *from the beginning* or *in the first instance*..........and one which fascinates me is * I could care less*, which lots of people say here.
We would say * I COULDN'T care less*.....For some reason it doesn't make sense to me...if you COULD care less, then it means you DO care somewhat.

Anyhow.......maybe someone will explain it to me sometime......lol

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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/12/2006 5:41:38 AM   
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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/12/2006 6:53:49 AM   
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I haven't read through the entire thread. I'm just going to note something for those who have missed a few important facts.
  1. There's nothing normal  or sane about what we do. We are wired differently from the rest of society. Stop trying to pretty it up and make it more tolerable. Admit you're a freak and embrace it.
  2. Legality. I'm pretty sure that whatever city/state/country, the laws are basically the same. Despite the issue of consensuality, striking someone with an instrument is illegal. It's called assault and battery.
  3. Safety. <heavy sigh> I don't care how many steps one takes to be safe, there's always an element that something can go horribly wrong. WIITWD isn't safe in any form of the word. The element of risk is what makes this so appealing and continues to draw in new practitioners of this wonderful lifestyle everyday.

I won't even touch the subject of perceived sick or taboo subjects. Everyone's entitled to their own interpretations. That's what makes forums a great tool to learn by. Personally, I have very few hard limits. I won't open any further cans of worms by listing them, even if they are pretty general.

Tolerance. It's a lubrication for interaction in society. It would be nice to find it here as well. You need not accept someone's else fetish or kink but for whatever you hold holy, allow folks the breathing room to live their lives as they see fit and I'm sure they'll give you the same courtesy.

*kicks her soapbox under her futon*


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RE: Reply to mons - sick practices - 10/12/2006 8:16:26 AM   
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Yes, that was my phrase...and yes, I'm English.

There are lots of phrases that Americans use here that i'm getting used to now too........such as....* from the get go*.....whereas we'd say * from the start* or *from the beginning* or *in the first instance*..........and one which fascinates me is * I could care less*, which lots of people say here.
We would say * I COULDN'T care less*.....For some reason it doesn't make sense to me...if you COULD care less, then it means you DO care somewhat.

Anyhow.......maybe someone will explain it to me sometime......lol

agirl



Yes, that is a somewhat senseless idiom, I puzzled over that one some time ago. In the navy, I picked up, I could (or couldn't) give a rats ass" - which works either way, and can be condensed to "I could give a rat", in mixed company.

Another one is "take a shit" - wouldn't you rather leave it?

Americans tend to be less literate, I think, I mean they can read, but don't do it much, and consequently, the language tends to be full of half baked idioms and misapplications of words - "penultimate" is one making the rounds lately, and it actually means not quite ultimate, i.e., just before or below "ultimate", but generally used to mean "ultimate". Very annoying since it's just a pretentious sounding word unless used correctly.

"Appointed" in the "selection" or "endowment"  sense of the word: i.e., "beautifully appointed", was launched by Madison Avenue and made the rounds breifly, but blessedly died none too soon, I thought.

I'm guessing "brilliant" is getting overused over there - I watched a Brit on TV not to long ago grasping unsucessfully for another phrase, rather amusing. I've heard "focking fantastic", though of course this isn't suitable in formal speech, and in the past, "remarkable", "ingenious", and  "splendid" seem to have had good runs.

Here in America, "awesome" seems to have survived, and "gnarly" is making a comeback, both conveying a certain enthusiasm, but seldom found outside the vernacular vulgarium - otherwise, the somewhat perfunctory "great" is the usual standby, and "good", while not very exiting, still seems to work.

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