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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:22:12 PM   
Steelriven


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Status: offline 		Hmm... I'm a masochist, I'd rather recive than give. Oh, and Whip if you are seeking attention... this is not a good way to go about it. It's like masturbating, stop it or you'll go blind.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:37:09 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Going back to the original OP.  I'd like to hear the men's definition of their  criteria is that determines for THEM that a woman is a prostitute?


I would consider a person a prostitute when I went to them with money and paid them for sexual services with no intention of ever having a future relationship with them.

Sort of a booty call I had to pay money for.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:41:56 PM   
PrincessH


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Status: offline 		I am lifestyle AND a pro-dom.  I became a pro for very good reasons... namely, my irritation with subs in my area not showing up when expected and flaking out.  I found out quickly that men who seek pro-dom's DO show up and often are quite sincere and truly thankful for what I provide.  By the way, that is not sex.  I always offer any pro client the option of giving me 3 hours of service work in lieu of an hour session with me... 99% of them prefer to simply tribute.  I would prefer the service... personally.  Try getting your information from REAL PEOPLE and not media or your sad generalizations from tv or wherever.  I love men and I love sex and I love dominating... Oh and by the way, I am a true natural submissive with a slave heart!


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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:42:20 PM   
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I would consider a person a prostitute when I went to them with money and paid them for sexual services with no intention of ever having a future relationship with them.

Sort of a booty call I had to pay money for.


Indeed, Synergy. And in the case of a proDomme like myself, I see my clients on an ongoing basis, forming a relationship with each and every one of them. In addition, my services are non-sexual in nature.

There. That clears up that little issue. For the 5 millionth time.

(Edited for clarity.)

< Message edited by LadySeraphina -- 10/19/2006 4:45:16 PM >

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:44:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PrincessH

I am lifestyle AND a pro-dom.... Oh and by the way, I am a true natural submissive with a slave heart!



PrincessH, I find that a little confusing. Are you suggesting you're a switch, a proDomme who is really a submissive, or something else that I didn't quite understand?

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:45:33 PM   
Kalira


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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

quote:

ORIGINAL: PrincessH

I am lifestyle AND a pro-dom.... Oh and by the way, I am a true natural submissive with a slave heart!



PrincessH, I find that a little confusing. Are you suggesting you're a switch, a proDomme who is really a submissive, or something else that I didn't quite understand?

You beat me to the punch lol

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:47:40 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Thanks Kalira.

Now to throw a cat amid the pigeons - who's gonna volunteer to rescue Whip!?

E


I help people who need my help.

I dont pick and choose who I help, my help is given unconditionally, and I dont demand recompense or even recognition for having helped somebody.

If they say "thank you," I say "you are very welcome."

There is a word in the language of the Xhosa people which is "Ubuntu."  The rough translation of this word is "People are people because of people," or "I am because we are."  I do these things for my own motives and because of how I feel my responsibilities are to the world I am a part of.

I used to teach lifesaving, and the most difficult rescues involve the person who tries to use the rescuer as a flotation buoy.  There are a couple of strategies for dealing with this person.

a)  Go underwater and come up from behind them and get them in a headlock / chokehold thingie and drag them to shore.  This can be dangerous.  If the person locks onto you, the best solution is to dive underwater.  They will let go since you dont float.

b)  Take a floating object and throw it to them.  Wait until they calm down.  This is the normal method which lifeguards use.  They have those red flotation thingies on a strap they drag through the water.

c)  Knock the drowning person unconscious.  Drag them in to shore.

d)  Wait for them to go unconscious (they are drowning, it happens) and then save them.

The thing you dont really want to do is get close enough to them where they can lock onto you.  What generally happens in those situations is they have to recover two bodies instead of one.

If WtH needs rescuing, I will rescue him.  There was a poster who stated he was getting on everybodies nerves.  I am part of that group of "everybody" and if I feel anything reading his posts it is a mild amusement at how ill-mannered and narrow-minded he portrays himself to the boards.  The thought which often comes to my mind is a sense of amazement that a human can live in a mind that small.

But this is just me and I could be wrong.

Sinergy

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:47:51 PM   
LadySeraphina


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ORIGINAL: Kalira
You beat me to the punch lol


Oh, there's a joke there somewhere...

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:54:04 PM   
LadyEllen


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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

quote:

I would consider a person a prostitute when I went to them with money and paid them for sexual services with no intention of ever having a future relationship with them.

Sort of a booty call I had to pay money for.


Indeed, Synergy. And in the case of a proDomme like myself, I see my clients on an ongoing basis, forming a relationship with each and every one of them. In addition, my services are non-sexual in nature.

There. That clears up that little issue. For the 5 millionth time.

(Edited for clarity.)


Hmmmm. I'm still a bit uncertain on it you know? Maybe one more thread? Maybe next week?

Only problem being, there cant be any unique combination of words involving "pro-Dommes" that hasnt been used as a thread title before.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 4:56:42 PM   
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Hmmmm. I'm still a bit uncertain on it you know? Maybe one more thread? Maybe next week?


We need a "Pros and Cons of domination for money" forum

also "Submissive or Slave.. You Decide" forum




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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:02:03 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		You guys start them, and you know I'll be there! Oh, don't forget the "proDommes: Escorts with Whips or Simply Dirty Bitches?" lol After all, this dead horse is begging to be beaten further. (And yet, I'm still posting...)


Ooh! edited to add that I just noticed I've been upgraded to "Indecent". I'm so proud!

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:04:30 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

quote:

I would consider a person a prostitute when I went to them with money and paid them for sexual services with no intention of ever having a future relationship with them.

Sort of a booty call I had to pay money for.


Indeed, Synergy. And in the case of a proDomme like myself, I see my clients on an ongoing basis, forming a relationship with each and every one of them. In addition, my services are non-sexual in nature.

There. That clears up that little issue. For the 5 millionth time.

(Edited for clarity.)


I was asked how I defined what a prostitute was.

So I did...

And as usual, it is just me and I could be wrong.

SINergy

(please note the second letter is an I, not a Y)

p.s. I imagine there are pro-Dom/me(s) who have regular customers who become very attached to the pro-Dom/me, and/or even become regular customers.  This might even go both ways.  But I would simply state that the "Pro" part of it means the Dom/me is doing it for cash on the barrelhead, so to speak.  Whether or not He/She/It takes their work home with them is a different thread.

p.p.s.  I imagine there are Pro-Dom/mes who have sex with their clients.  But again, to me this would be a Pro-Dom/me having sex with their client, and not somebody who is paid to have sex with people.

p.p.p.s. I love giving and getting massages.  When I go to a professional massage therapist for a massage after my chiropractic appointment, she gets paid for what she does for me.


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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:06:55 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		Please note I wasn't picking on you personally, Sinergy (sorry about the name error). I just meant that you made a good point. By that definition those of us who are lifestyle/proDommes are certainly not prostitutes. I just have the luxury of doing precisely what I enjoy, and no other job. :D

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:09:41 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

Please note I wasn't picking on you personally, Sinergy (sorry about the name error). I just meant that you made a good point. By that definition those of us who are lifestyle/proDommes are certainly not prostitutes. I just have the luxury of doing precisely what I enjoy, and no other job. :D


No worries, LadySeraphina.

So few people in this world are able to do that which they truly love and find fulfilling in life as a career.  Who was it that said "Do something you love and you will never work a day in your life."

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:11:57 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		Wonderful point, Sinergy. I often say that my life is very nearly perfect, and for that I am grateful.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:12:07 PM   
Jasmyn


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Status: offline 		SINergy this is my point of contention ... I don't use 'professional' as in a pro dom for the fact I'm 'paid' but because I offer a 'professional service' ... as in an equipped play room, have a variety of skills and experience, able to create a scene and honest enough to admit when something isn't within my skills, understand b&d/s&m and the psychology and like a client to leave my premises with fond memories...
 
Kind of like a car valet business calling itself a 'professional car valet service' as opposed to a 'car valet service' ... the 'professional' label denotes a better class of service and skills ...

lol you should see me do a lube and oil change ;)

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:23:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

SINergy this is my point of contention ... I don't use 'professional' as in a pro dom for the fact I'm 'paid' but because I offer a 'professional service' ... as in an equipped play room, have a variety of skills and experience, able to create a scene and honest enough to admit when something isn't within my skills, understand b&d/s&m and the psychology and like a client to leave my premises with fond memories...
 
Kind of like a car valet business calling itself a 'professional car valet service' as opposed to a 'car valet service' ... the 'professional' label denotes a better class of service and skills ...

lol you should see me do a lube and oil change ;)


I see your point, Jasmyn.  It does make sense about the professionalism that you approach the subject.  So perhaps my idea of a prostitute is one I pay money to for sex, or a professional Dom/me or sub is one I pay money to for D/s activities is somewhat limited.

Perhaps the problem lies in the word "professional" and the idea in many people's minds that one pays professionals to provide services for them.

I would imagine that "Expert Dom/me" would be closer to the mark as you describe it, but I imagine that might damage some people's fragile egos.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:41:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadySeraphina

Please note I wasn't picking on you personally, Sinergy (sorry about the name error). I just meant that you made a good point. By that definition those of us who are lifestyle/proDommes are certainly not prostitutes. I just have the luxury of doing precisely what I enjoy, and no other job. :D


Ya Know, I actually find it kind of funny (not your post, but what I'm about to tell you)  I'm a pro-domme as a sideline, I'm a full time contractor in IT and marketing, and I feel WAY more like a prostitute doing my "real" job (the marketing part).  Taking money to do something I don't like and not helping anyone (except 'the company') 

When I'm doing a session, I really generally feel like I'm performing a service, directly helping someone, possibly more than just the client, but also those he comes into contact with, as he generally leaves feeling happier, satisfied, relaxed and confident (I know, suprising but true).

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 5:56:38 PM   
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I'm just thinking there really are a lot of masochists here cause people still respond to whip.  You need to understand that unless you agree with him he's going to verbally attack you. You're never going to convince him of your point of view.  He sees/believes what he wants and he is always right, in his mind at least.  His world appears to be very black and white.

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RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. - 10/19/2006 7:02:37 PM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: nefertari

General Reply

I'm just thinking there really are a lot of masochists here cause people still respond to whip.  You need to understand that unless you agree with him he's going to verbally attack you. You're never going to convince him of your point of view.  He sees/believes what he wants and he is always right, in his mind at least.  His world appears to be very black and white.



whip who?

Sinergy


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