Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout.

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WhipTheHip -> Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:12:26 AM)
Pro Dommes are not prostitutes, but both Pro Dommes and prostitutes risk sexual burnout and engage in activities that diminish their chance of ever having a loving relationship. Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships. Most masochists get pleasure by giving pleasure. Since Pro-Dommes really don't get pleasure from their work, and do it mostly for the money, most masochists do not get true satisfaction by hiring them. I would never hire Pro-Domme, because ALL my pleasure as a masochist comes from giving pleasure, from feeling I am giving not taking. I would get more sexual satisfaction out of fixing her car or her plumbing than have her do something for me sexual primarily for money. That is insulting to me, and is insulting to her. Why don't most prostitutes and Pro-Dommes want to be in a loving relationship? I think it is because they have been misused my males, and are not capable of forming an intimate, trusting relationship with any male. Or they fear, putting themselves in a position where another male will just use their body, and take abuse their heart. They fear being misused, abused, and taken advantage of by another male. Whenever males have been in control in their lives, they have always gotten the short end of stick. Cheers, Michael

Jasmyn -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:15:24 AM)
Dude you've just described 80% of the female population, throw on a pair of trousers and as many men are unable to have loving, intimate relationships ...

michaelGA2 -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:17:51 AM)
quote: Pro Dommes are not prostitutes They're not? then what are They?

Iskander -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:24:07 AM)
Money makes the world go round... It's as simple as that... Iskander...

WhipTheHip -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:27:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn Dude you've just described 80% of the female population, throw on a pair of trousers and as many men are unable to have loving, intimate relationships ... I believe you are mistaken. I believe most men and women are capable of loving, intimate relationships. I feel bad for women who think otherwise due to their life experiences. Some men and some women are attracted to partners who are abusives and who are certain to take advantage of them. These men and women often conclude that all members of the opposite sex are like all the ones they have personally experienced in their life. It is natural for these people to gravitate to D/s relationships. Cheers, Michael

WhipTheHip -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:29:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Iskander Money makes the world go round... It's as simple as that...Iskander... No, my friend. Love makes the world go round. Money is a necessary evil and a poor substitute.

NINASHARP -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:31:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip Pro Dommes are not prostitutes, but both Pro Dommes and prostitutes risk sexual burnout and engage in activities that diminish their chance of ever having a loving relationship. Sorry, but I don't know what makes you generalize Prodommes. All the intimate relatioinship I have had has been loving ones. Even the short lived ones. And I am far from being burned out sexually. I find sex just keeps getting better. quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships. Not in my case. quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip Most masochists get pleasure by giving pleasure. Since Pro-Dommes really don't get pleasure from their work, and do it mostly for the money, most masochists do not get true satisfaction by hiring them. I would never hire Pro-Domme, because ALL my pleasure as a masochist comes from giving pleasure, from feeling I am giving not taking. Wrong again, one thing that still baffles me today about being a former prodomme, is that I did love the craft of the scene.. I had met some very interesting people, and enjoyed the new things that I would explore with my former submissive clients. I am sure that most would have been happy with much less than what I once offered, but I invested my time, energy and my emotions into having a really cool place to play and some really great people to play with. quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip I would get more sexual satisfaction out of fixing her car or her plumbing than have her do something for me sexual primarily for money. That is insulting to me, and is insulting to her. Yet ,you have no problem coming here and insulting prostitutes and prodommes. quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip Why don't most prostitutes and Pro-Dommes want to be in a loving relationship? I think it is because they have been misused my males, and are not capable of forming an intimate, trusting relationship with any male. Or they fear, putting themselves in a position where another male will just use their body, and take abuse their heart. They fear being misused, abused, and taken advantage of by another male. Whenever males have been in control in their lives, they have always gotten the short end of stick. Cheers, Michael Again you should rethink who you are really speaking about here. And for whom you are speaking for. I might be mistaken, but you don't look like a prodomme or prostitute to me. Nina

gypsylee -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:31:50 AM)
Michael... methinks you just wanna attract the wrath of the pro Dommes (or just fems in general) cos you can't afford it atm.

Jasmyn -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:35:27 AM)
He's waiting for the day to be taken over a bended knee as he doesn't believe a woman can be a sadist.. that a woman could or would actually enjoy inflicting pain ...

WhipTheHip -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:38:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: michaelGA2 quote: Pro Dommes are not prostitutes They're not? then what are They? Ha, you first wrote: "You could have fooled me." Prostitution is illegal. Dominatrix work is not necessarily illegal. Pro Dommes are Pro Dommes and prostitutes are prostitutes. They generally provide different services. Most prostitutes would rather suck and get fucked then do what Dommes do. Most Pro Dommes will not have sex with their clients.

Kalira -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:40:24 AM)
quote: but both Pro Dommes and prostitutes risk sexual burnout and engage in activities that diminish their chance of ever having a loving relationship. I disagree with this. I have and do know many Pro Dommes who are in loving,and fullfilling relationships. Many of them are married, some of them are in long term. I am curious as to what you base your observations on, if you would please? quote: Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships Again, would you please cite your sources for such a generalized statement. quote: Most masochists get pleasure by giving pleasure. Since Pro-Dommes really don't get pleasure from their work, and do it mostly for the money, most masochists do not get true satisfaction by hiring them. I would never hire Pro-Domme, because ALL my pleasure as a masochist comes from giving pleasure, from feeling I am giving not taking. Hmm, I am not even going to attempt to rationalize this one here.

LeatherBentOne -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:41:14 AM)
To the OP: You are kidding, aren't you?

Iskander -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:42:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip quote: ORIGINAL: Iskander Money makes the world go round... It's as simple as that...Iskander... No, my friend. Love makes the world go round. Money is a necessary evil and a poor substitute. Love is simply some chemicals running through a body.. Bill Gates didn't get what he got through love, Bush and co certainly aren't doing it with love, actors act about it, but considering divorce rates in hollywood aren't living it.. You certainly aren't loving with starting threads like this that you know will get peoples backs up... So why say something you don't actually believe in or live by? And who says you can't buy love? For the right price you can get anyone to love anyone, or at least pretend to, and you or I would not be able to tell the difference.. Iskander..

WhipTheHip -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:44:48 AM)
> Sorry, but I don't know what makes you generalize Prodommes. I generalize everything. There are two mental processes. One is deduction, the other is generalization. He who does one without the other is in trouble. > All the intimate relatioinship I have had has been loving ones. > Even the short lived ones. And I am far from being burned out > sexually. I find sex just keeps getting better. Every rule has plenty of exceptions. You are just one of the exceptions that prove the rule.

amlonging -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:45:48 AM)
Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships. SpeAking of a totally lopsided and silly GENERALIZATION.... you are neither, so where you get your philosophy, inforamtion? or are you? a prostitute or pro domme hiding ????

LadyEllen -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:47:27 AM)
Mind you, not a bad way to get some online humiliation without asking anyone in particular. Maybe thats his thang? He likes the idea of all these dominant women getting irate with him and cyber chasing him down to have his bad attitude dealt with? I especially liked the bit about us all being here, only because we've all been abused in the past. That was really insightful and very empathetic in relation to those who were abused who are here, and especially for those who were abused and are not here; clearly bdsm is a symptom of our sickness, and those who were abused who are not here are repressing their symptoms, which cant be healthy. I wont go any further, as if online humiliation is what he wants, then I'll need to charge, and end up as one of these poor abused pro-dommes myself - surely a fate worse than death? E

Kalira -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:47:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: amlonging Due to mistreatment by some male (or many males) in their past, Pro-Dommes and prostitutes do not seek loving relationships. SpeAking of a totally lopsided and silly GENERALIZATION.... you are neither, so where you get your philosophy, inforamtion? or are you? a prostitute or pro domme hiding ???? LMAO I would have to agree that he sounds to be a prostitute in hiding

Kalira -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:48:55 AM)
quote: I especially liked the bit about us all being here, only because we've all been abused in the past. That was really insightful and very empathetic in relation to those who were abused who are here, and especially for those who were abused and are not here; clearly bdsm is a symptom of our sickness, and those who were abused who are not here are repressing their symptoms, which cant be healthy. I would agree Ma'am.

MzTlaz -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:49:05 AM)
Just an observation. I'm pretty new here but I've been reading the boards for a while and the thing I notice is that Whip seems to like to cause trouble. I don't get the need to make these kind of statements other than to raise the ire of certain people. I guess it's a control of sorts. I also don't understand why so many take the bait, it seems such an obvious game to me.

gypsylee -> RE: Pro-Dommes, Prostitution, and sexual burnout. (10/17/2006 6:49:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LeatherBentOne To the OP: You are kidding, aren't you? probably. which just makes it boring. but let's see how far he'll defend his claims.

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