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Sab -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 10:45:29 AM)

What is gorean again? :-S lol




Shylahgirl -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 10:57:51 AM)

Damn... if there's a Dom/Master that requiers all that to be followed then they have alot more time on there hands then mine does.
 
Alot of that would just be a waist of time to inforce.

Shylah




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:04:28 AM)

I friend of my boi is fond of saying, "If you put me on a pedestal, all you get to see is my ass." I wonder how far this person fell?

Master Fire




Kirei -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:11:43 AM)

I just caught this thread.   These are not actual rules...they are policies and proceedures, or in lifestyle terms protocols to follow mostly.   I actually hate seeing these things, or when some sub shows me what they want to live by.  I've said this before I have only 7 rules for slaves in my house.  4 of which I have to follow as well.  One of the three for the slaves is if I don't follow one of the 4 main ones and break it so can you, and you can tell me about it. 
  I will admit while I was off and taking care of my dying grandfather last year and part of this year.  I did have a lot of time on my hands, and did finally write out my own house philosophy, rules, policy, proceedures, etc. and make a little book of it.  I will admit that it is much easier when I can just go look at it and say this is what I want...LOL.  Because I wrote it down one night so I could remember it.  These rules though are just silly, as they say nothing about the dominant and who they really are.
  For instance one of my major rules is do not make a promise you cannot keep.  As I hold a promise to be very dear and honorable...this means that when a sub/slave makes one to me or another it should be the same for them if they are a part of my house.  I would much rather have them say "I will try with all my heart to do as you asked mistress", rather than "I promise mistress".  So that when they do make a promise or I make one to them they will know I will not go back on it.  This tells someone about my ideals and how I think and live life, and its more than just a rule of the house.

Koneko




SlaveAkasha -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:12:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Akasha,
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Actually, I have seen that set of rules many times.  I don't see anything wrong with most of them, and I actually try to live by them, though not exactly as "rules". 

 
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I think it's silly to live by them word for word
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You can pick and choose what you like, and throw the rest out.  I think the formality of them though, if taken as a whole, and the slave made to learn in the way written is a bit over the top personally. 

 
In other words you aren't living by them.

 



Lol, yeah.. pretty much.  They are all not totally bad though, but most are way over the top.  I have had Doms that wanted me to live by every rule no matter what, needless to say I didn't talk to those Doms after that. 
 
Akasha




CrappyDom -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:24:26 AM)

Akasha,

I condemed these rules as a SET, there are bits and pieces that are good, some are hot, but most are idiotic and as a set, they are profoundly idiotic.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:31:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirei

I just caught this thread.   These are not actual rules...they are policies and proceedures, or in lifestyle terms protocols to follow mostly.   I actually hate seeing these things, or when some sub shows me what they want to live by.  I've said this before I have only 7 rules for slaves in my house.  4 of which I have to follow as well.  One of the three for the slaves is if I don't follow one of the 4 main ones and break it so can you, and you can tell me about it. 
I will admit while I was off and taking care of my dying grandfather last year and part of this year.  I did have a lot of time on my hands, and did finally write out my own house philosophy, rules, policy, proceedures, etc. and make a little book of it.  I will admit that it is much easier when I can just go look at it and say this is what I want...LOL.  Because I wrote it down one night so I could remember it.  These rules though are just silly, as they say nothing about the dominant and who they really are.
For instance one of my major rules is do not make a promise you cannot keep.  As I hold a promise to be very dear and honorable...this means that when a sub/slave makes one to me or another it should be the same for them if they are a part of my house.  I would much rather have them say "I will try with all my heart to do as you asked mistress", rather than "I promise mistress".  So that when they do make a promise or I make one to them they will know I will not go back on it.  This tells someone about my ideals and how I think and live life, and its more than just a rule of the house.

Koneko


I, too, as well as others, have taken the time to write things down. But, in the end, I think the most concise statement that rules everything: Be excellent to each other. *air guitar*

Master Fire




raiken -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:42:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

I, too, as well as others, have taken the time to write things down. But, in the end, I think the most concise statement that rules everything: Be excellent to each other. *air guitar*

Master Fire



LOL! And have a most excellent journey! *wink Bill and Teds most excellent adventure...hec i still remember that movie. *grin 




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 11:57:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

1- i worship my Master.
2- I am owned by my master 100%
3- I will have my service structured in a useful way
4- I will be re-educated and re-socialized
5- I will wear my collar or symbollic collar at all times

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Ok, not being able to leave this alone, I went back to re-read. Hell if I know why...probably some perverse fascination with the stupid. BUT, this time, I read some of the previous documentation. From what I'm reading, Master John telling the slave to categorize the rules into 5 categories:
  1. Will do. (without question)
  2. Want to do. (but,... you have to be pushed or forced to do it because that is what works best for you. It is not to come easy.)
  3. Won't do. (under any circumstances: role-play, lifestyle or otherwise)
  4. Find questionable or problematic or troublesome, but possible if interpreted or rewritten.
  5. Need to do. (must have, even to the point that the relationship could not work without it.)
So, the slave actually has some input into what is and isn't relevant in the relationship. That puts things in a different light for me. I'd want to relabel #3 from "Won't do" to "Utter bullshit" though.

Master Fire





Dnomyar -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:01:09 PM)

Ok so the rules are unimpressive and they suck. We all agree that there are way to many of them. So!  How many rules should there be and what should they be. Don't say no rules because there has to be something to base your learings on.  




MasterofBANG -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:03:43 PM)

ok, someone needs a reality check...

1- crappydom, after harrassing and stalking my slave through mail you now go and post our rules in a pulic forum so that you can further harass us? this is pathetic- you were told to leave us alone and that we didn't want your advice or the opinion of the boards on our lifestyle choices. you ignored that and choose to start a flaming thread. very sad.

2- everyone in this community and lifestyle has different ideas and levels that they want to explore. these are MY rules devised from a variety of research, some are taken from a website and some are my own devision and all are agreed with my slave. for you to deride and mock my personal rules shows how childish you are and how little respect you have for the lifestyle and others in this community. if you don't like them, then fine- i don't expect you to follow MY rules or for myself or my slave to follow YOUR rules. I have absolutely no respect for your opinion on this matter and have more important things to do than follow the little net drama that you seem to live for.

3- thankyou everyone for your input on this topic, but it was both not wanted or requested by myself or my slave, posting this is just seems to be something that crappydom likes to do in his spare time. my slave and i are prefectly happy with our rules and don't need any feedback, and we hope to be cotinuing our BDSM. We continue to respect the lifestyles of others on here and hope that this issue crappydom has won't be a problem for others.




Lashra -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:04:09 PM)

Unfortnately alot of novices have read this and taken it to heart as how to train their slaves. I stopped at number 89 because it made me a bit sick to my stomach.
But to each their own.

~Lashra




KatyLied -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:05:30 PM)

Those rules are on a profile on the other side.  Obviously you want people to read them.




Lashra -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:06:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom


But can you imagine the sort of moron who comes up with this sort of crap?

Someone very insecure who is seeking a doll/robot to play with, not a living human being. Someone who fantasizes alot about having a perfect woman do everything perfectly for him in his perfect world. The world is not perfect, nor are people.

~Lashra




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:07:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterofBANG
ok, someone needs a reality check...

1- crappydom, after harrassing and stalking my slave through mail you now go and post our rules in a pulic forum so that you can further harass us? this is pathetic- you were told to leave us alone and that we didn't want your advice or the opinion of the boards on our lifestyle choices. you ignored that and choose to start a flaming thread. very sad.

No one would have known it was you unless you outed yourself, which you've done here.

So how can he be accused of trying to flame you?




TrueCalling -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:10:46 PM)

~Sigh~  Just 128 rules? I swear that somewhere on AOHell i've seen a list of more! I prefer one 'rule' of life....Live it as intended and it naturally falls into place. Hmm, i wonder what number rule is "Master will allow slave anchovie pizza once a month'

An aside to MasterFireMaam.....It is such a pleasure to read your posts, you are intelligent, informed, and tell it like it is. I look forward to reading your Household Manual.

colleen




Lashra -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:11:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sab

What is gorean again? :-S lol

<holds up a picture of a caveman, dragging his woman along by the hair>

~Lashra




machinegunBANG -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:16:28 PM)

CrappyDom-- i must admit that your continuous, aggressive and rude emails are becoming excessively wearing. although i respect your opinion on the guidelines that i have agreed to i feel that your harassment over the matter, both through messages here on collarme as well as this post on the boards, is absolute overkill and muchmoreso than any 'rule' in my contract.

Everyone at collarme is practicing an 'alternative' lifestyle and although we can all expect some judgements from others i find it incredibly disappointing that someone active in the 'alternative' lifestyle themselves would attack others over my own consensual choices in the subject.
The guidelines that my Master has set forth within O/our mutual contract were agreed upon as guidelines, not strictly enforced 'laws', and are to reflect my Master and my own desired end result within my training. It is both of O/our hopes that these will be natural to me as a submissive, but are written out as a reminder as to what i am trying to achieve within myself.

Just as in training in sports, one must practice in order to gain muscle or reactive memory. I am in training.
i could further go into the subject at great length and have an argument over the matter, but i lack the time and do not feel that it warrants my attention, really. you have displayed yourself in a ridiculous manner and i don't feel any more need to explain myself to you.

it is just too bad that you were unable to approach me in an intelligent and non-harassing manner about the subject so that we could have had a discussion together from which we both could have gained insight.

it is just too bad that you jump the gun in your own reactions.

Not the best sign for a 'Dom', now, is it?




Sab -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:17:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

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ORIGINAL: Sab

What is gorean again? :-S lol

<holds up a picture of a caveman, dragging his woman along by the hair>

~Lashra




That's the one - and the high forehead!! Gives em away all the time! :D LOL




machinegunBANG -> RE: Anyone ever seen a more stupid set of rules? (10/19/2006 12:19:16 PM)

W/we were not worried about being 'outed' as W/we do not feel there is anything for us to hide; there is no shame here. However, CrappyDom sent me a message after posting this that was extremely rude concerning this thread and was hoping that your reactions would, somehow, cause an uproar. Really, W/we are done with the matter and have stated our opinions. Again, Thank Y/you all for joining in the discussion, i simply wish it had happened under better circumstances.




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